David Cameron planning to send a copy of the King James Bible to every UK school - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Clunj;33451526]Sorry but this isn't sensationalist headlines, in the fuckin' slightest. Cameron makes much bigger decisions on a daily basis and some bibles are sensationalist? Piss off :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] this fits sensationalism perfectly what are you talking about sensationalism refers to journalism where a story is over hyped to give a false sense of importance, I'm pretty sure this fits that quite well [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensationalism[/url] it fits that description practically to a t

[QUOTE=Omali;33442320]Isn't the King James Bible essentially the bible but with all the stuff that might turn people away cut out? How fitting.[/QUOTE] No it's the same thing as the other versions but harder to understand because it's all like "thou art verily come hither"

Nowhere does it say they're going to send a Bible to every student and force them to read from it... sounds like they're just giving one copy to the libraries. Which is a good thing I suppose, so that the text is accessible to anyone who wants to read it. And I'm sure every school has an ample supply of Charles Darwin's books as well.

He does have a point, from a scientific standpoint it is an important historical artefact .

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33450024]None of you? I very much doubt that. Sure there's a majority of people as 'unaffiliated' or 'not religious', but it's hardly "no one" that cares.[/QUOTE] Are you here to argue semantics or actually make a point?

To me, it just seems like they're using the bible as an example of English literature, not as "THE BOOK OF GOD." I don't see too much of a problem.

I confused David Cameron with James Cameron for a second and went "Why is the director of Titantic and Avatar handing out bibles...?"

[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;33452799]Are you here to argue semantics or actually make a point?[/QUOTE] My point is that I'd hardly call the UK an Atheist or even a "we don't give a fuck" nation until they cease to have a state church.

[QUOTE=strayebyrd;33451588]this fits sensationalism perfectly what are you talking about sensationalism refers to journalism where a story is over hyped to give a false sense of importance, I'm pretty sure this fits that quite well [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensationalism[/url] it fits that description practically to a t[/QUOTE] misinterpretation of the entire forum section for however long it has existed then, my bad. this is definitely sensationalist.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33453042]My point is that I'd hardly call the UK an Atheist or even a "we don't give a fuck" nation until they cease to have a state church.[/QUOTE] Are you gonna say that we're monarchists too because we keep the Royal family around for tourism and shit like that? Come on. [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/wtwtgod/3518375.stm[/url] this was in 2004, there was another survey in 2011 that showed we were a majority non-religious nation by population

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;33452813]To me, it just seems like they're using the bible as an example of English literature, not as "THE BOOK OF GOD." I don't see too much of a problem.[/QUOTE] The problem here is that David C doesn't understand how schools work. He wants to give bibles to every school in the UK, despite the fact that we already have hundreds, if not thousands, of perfectly good literature already. Also, I don't know how it is in America, but in England we use a variety of examination boards, each of which have a different set of literature the students must learn for the exams, none of them include this bible in their exam.

[QUOTE=Jasun;33443958]Religious Studies is actually a pretty good class, it promotes tolerance of other religions and you get a GCSE at the end of it.[/QUOTE] i only got half a gcse :'( (but now i'm doing an a level in philosophy and ethics so idgaf)

[QUOTE=Jasun;33460110]The problem here is that David C doesn't understand how schools work. He wants to give bibles to every school in the UK, despite the fact that we already have hundreds, if not thousands, of perfectly good literature already. Also, I don't know how it is in America, but in England we use a variety of examination boards, each of which have a different set of literature the students must learn for the exams, none of them include this bible in their exam.[/QUOTE] Well hey maybe here's a wild idea exams are not the be all and end all of education Also it's not Cameron doing this it's Michael Gove.

[QUOTE=BISCUIT_TINS;33460580]i only got half a gcse :'( (but now i'm doing an a level in philosophy and ethics so idgaf)[/QUOTE] I got short course, which I guess is the equivalent of half, but colleges counted it in my 5 GCSEs needed. I could have done the full one but for some reason my school decided to put me in a 'mixed ability' group for RE, and the majority people in there share the EDL "hate the paki muslim bastards who blow up shit" view.

The government should not be spending money on this [B]rubbish[/B].

Inside the school i went all the RE rooms there were shelves and cupboards over flowing with bibles, there were also so many bibles in the Head of RE office that there was only enough room for 2 people to be in there at a time. At the beggining of year 9 they provided us all bibles to take home not because we needed them just to dump them somewhere. Nick clegg should bite Camerons cock next time its in his mouth for being so silly.

Bear in mind that in a single year I got given 3 free bibles from various Christian groups during school, as was everyone else in the school. It's totally irresponsible spending state money on any religious item if it is not specifically to educate, and it's irresponsible to spend the money on something that we're already full of. My grammar school has easily got as many RE books as we have chemistry books in total, and for every person who takes RE, 3 take Chemistry here.

personally I just hope those Bibles don't get over my way. Although I am a Christian, putting Bibles in public schools just seems like a way to force kids to learn our religion, which is not the way. And also I just realised something. The government considers atheism a religion right? And people say there should be no promoting of religionos in school? Then how come all schools are promoting atheism?

[QUOTE=ThatIrishSOB;33462394]Then how come all schools are promoting atheism?[/QUOTE] Umm, they aren't. At least, not here. They just say "this is what christianity is, a christian believes" and so on. They don't actively promote any religion.

[QUOTE=ThatIrishSOB;33462394]personally I just hope those Bibles don't get over my way. Although I am a Christian, putting Bibles in public schools just seems like a way to force kids to learn our religion, which is not the way. And also I just realised something. The government considers atheism a religion right? And people say there should be no promoting of religionos in school? Then how come all schools are promoting atheism?[/QUOTE] they aren't promoting atheism, they're promoting a secular work environment, which is specifically a non-religious thing

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[QUOTE=Noble;33462643]Ah yes, where would humanity be without this type of "beauty" and morals: -Exodus 21:20-21 -Numbers 31:17-18 -Leviticus 20:13[/QUOTE] You missed out Deuteronomy 22. Some gems from it: [quote]A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.[/quote] -Deuteronomy 22:5 [quote]If a man takes a wife and, after sleeping with her, dislikes her and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, “I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,” then the young woman’s father and mother shall bring to the town elders at the gate proof that she was a virgin. Her father will say to the elders, “I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, ‘I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.’ But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.” Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. They shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver and give them to the young woman’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives. If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.[/quote] Deuteronomy 22:13-22:21

Or, we go straight to Ezekiel 23 [quote] 5 “Oholah engaged in prostitution while she was still mine; and she lusted after her lovers, the Assyrians—warriors 6 clothed in blue, governors and commanders, all of them handsome young men, and mounted horsemen. 7 She gave herself as a prostitute to all the elite of the Assyrians and defiled herself with all the idols of everyone she lusted after. 8 She did not give up the prostitution she began in Egypt, when during her youth men slept with her, caressed her virgin bosom and poured out their lust on her. [/quote] [url]http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2023&version=NIV;KJV[/url] That's from the New International Version, with the KJ version on the right.

What, you didn't go to 23:20? [quote]There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;33463091]What, you didn't go to 23:20?[/QUOTE] I couldn't find it, it was the one I wanted. Were you in the King James? I was in New International. Oh, I see it now, right there. Why didn't control + f pick it up, I had the words right...

[QUOTE=Drsalvador;33442327][h2] Religion and state should be divided by a solid brick wall, You no-good posh toff, Really, I cannot comprehend you sometimes, Goddamnit.[/h2] [sp]I'm afraid to say more incase a black van appears and drags me off[/sp][/QUOTE] I'm okay with this for educational purposes as long as they send copies of other major religious texts like the Torah and the Qur'an. That the state pays for education about religions and religious diversity is okay for me.

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;33444941]No it's the version of the Bible that brought the world over 200 phrases and idioms. But, whatever, religion is like, a total bummer man. My parents take me to church every Sunday and I hate it so much - fuck religion, what has it ever done for anyone? I called the priest a fucking cuntfuck paedophile last week, that told him.[/QUOTE] [h2]Alright. I might be atheist as fuck but that is just beyond the line, Respect other people's beliefs you twat.[/h2] [editline]27th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Terminutter;33463068]Or, we go straight to Ezekiel 23 [url]http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2023&version=NIV;KJV[/url] That's from the New International Version, with the KJ version on the right.[/QUOTE] IIRC there is even a passage about strewing someone's flesh, bones, and blood over a mountain in ezekiel

[QUOTE=Drsalvador;33464470] IIRC there is even a passage about strewing someone's flesh, bones, and blood over a mountain in ezekiel[/QUOTE] It's like the Bible's nutjob book, which is glided over by everyone who is too eager to insult Islam or Judaism.