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Mafia II also had a lot of cut features IIRC, including a whole section that would take place during WWII Sicily
It seems the Mafia II people had a lot of good ideas and almost finished a bunch of them, but just didn't have enough time and were only able to include just framework and a main story. A shame.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46878972]I have quite little faith in this, Mafia 2 might have been not a terrible game but to me, it never lived up to Mafia 1 by far. Mafia 1 is the focal point of my childhood gaming nostalgia, I highly doubt any game will ever come close to it for me.[/QUOTE] I respect what you have to say, but honestly this sounds more like nostalgia goggles more than anything.
[QUOTE=madnath619;46881940]I respect what you have to say, but honestly this sounds more like nostalgia goggles more than anything.[/QUOTE] It still is the best story ever told in a video game. I'm currently going through it again and it's just as good. The voice acting is meh since it's all dubbed but it's still great.
I hope they add in more driving, really lacked in the second one.
Better be a sandbox game.
Please please please make it more like mafia 1, less like mafia 2. Mafia 2 was a disgrace of a game as it felt too obvious how much they gutted the game, made last minute changes, and resold most of it back as DLC to players. Hey go ahead and rate what you will but they literally did cut content for the game for no reason and resold chunks of it back to customers in paid dlc, theres plenty of proof out there.
The best part of Mafia 2 was when you entered a car for the first time during the winter, 'White Christmas' was playing on the radio and the snow got blown off the roof when you started driving. That game had a [B]great[/B] atmosphere.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46879299]with that fucking ending there better be[/QUOTE] That wasn't an ending, it was the middle of the story.
Mafia 2 has a very nice but empty world with nothing much to do in it but drive around and take in the beautiful sights
[QUOTE=Prollgurke;46882217]The best part of Mafia 2 was when you entered a car for the first time during the winter, 'White Christmas' was playing on the radio and the snow got blown off the roof when you started driving. That game had a [B]great[/B] atmosphere.[/QUOTE] My favorite moment was when [sp]You did the mission to kill the main character from Mafia I. Same Car too, and when you get into the car, Django Reinhart is playing on the radio. How fitting.[/sp]
I don't get why everyone hates on Mafia II so much. If you didn't expect it to be an open-world game, it was phenomenally good. The voice acting, storyline, characters, and atmosphere tied together perfectly. The open-world DLC suck ass in comparison because it tries to cut out the entire storyline and fails miserably. I'd rather have a phenomenal linear game with a good story than a less-empty open-world one with a fragmented, shitty story. Mafia II is one of my all-time favorite video games and I'm fucking amazingly excited for the next one.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;46882512]I don't get why everyone hates on Mafia II so much. If you didn't expect it to be an open-world game, it was phenomenally good. The voice acting, storyline, characters, and atmosphere tied together perfectly. The open-world DLC suck ass in comparison because it tries to cut out the entire storyline and fails miserably. I'd rather have a phenomenal linear game with a good story than a less-empty open-world one with a fragmented, shitty story. Mafia II is one of my all-time favorite video games and I'm fucking amazingly excited for the next one.[/QUOTE] The biggest problem with Mafia II is that it got gutted near the end of development and a lot of the cool work they showed didn't make it into the game. The melee combat system is a prime example, before the game came out they showed great hand to hand stuff, in the final product you can punch and kick and that's pretty much it.
I think Mafia 2 is one of few games you can tell is clearly gimped, yet maintains it's excellence as one of the most enjoyable experiences you can have in a game of it's type. I loved Mafia 2 and I replayed it a few times. It's the perfect blend of a narrative driven, open world game, with just a touch of RPG behind it all. I enjoyed walking around my home, going outside, interacting with the world and observing it. It felt beautiful and it's a shame so much was cut from it.
If we don't find out what happened to[sp]our good friend Joe,[/sp]I'm going to be royally pissed.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;46882512]I don't get why everyone hates on Mafia II so much. If you didn't expect it to be an open-world game, it was phenomenally good. The voice acting, storyline, characters, and atmosphere tied together perfectly. The open-world DLC suck ass in comparison because it tries to cut out the entire storyline and fails miserably. I'd rather have a phenomenal linear game with a good story than a less-empty open-world one with a fragmented, shitty story. Mafia II is one of my all-time favorite video games and I'm fucking amazingly excited for the next one.[/QUOTE] People were pissed about mafia 2 because the game we got was essentially a gutted fish as we were given bones picked clean. Early gameplay videos and demos paint a completely different game, one more akin to Mafia 1. It had more involved and fun looking systems. Cops had more interaction, guns could be carried out in the open legally as long as you had forged papers for the gun which were bought from Giuseppe. Speaking of that italian bastard, he originally served a much greater purpose. He was a mission contact and had cutscenes for vito to take missions usually having to do with taking out competition or something. Instead they cut the missions, removed the cutscenes, and resold his missions to us in the form of Joe's Adventure. Lock picks had an actual use and would be used up with each car picking so you needed to buy more, cars had much more options to customize, whole parts of the map were cut and removed some were readded in paid dlc. Like Giueseppe most of the characters you come in contact with through the game actually were contact points to give you more missions. Derrick, Mike Bruski, Eddie and a few others all had missions for Vito that were all cut and resold as dlc sans cutscenes. Many more things were removed or cut, and the best part? Most of this happened in the final months of the game. So completely finished mechanics of the game were removed for literally no reason at all. Like melee, yeah you can punch and fight but there was an entire melee weapon system fully implemented into the game that was cut for no reason. You can still find these files in game and actually get them to work but heres even a gameplay demo featuing the melee system: Skip to about 40 seconds in: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dKsktIbx3z0[/URL] Click on that because embedding won't work. at the end of the day, the game we got resembled almost nothing of the game we were shown or promised and many of the cut features which were fully implemented into the game were sold to us as additional DLC. The DLC itself was shoddily done and bad. Obviously thrown together to get something to sell, in both of the big dlc's you're still playing vito, just with a head hacked model with another face, same animation set and hell same textures usually. [editline]8th January 2015[/editline] Here is another video showing cut content, this whole mission was cut and given to joe in joe's adventures: [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=omY93dIH8pc[/URL] at 2:50 you can see the police interaction, ability to present papers too Again gotta click on it, neither of these want to embed and i keep trying, it just keeps removing the tags, ignoring the removed s and showing the link. [editline]8th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Jojje;46879203]I heard Rockstar Games were assisting 2K Czech on Mafia III. If that's true, we can expect open world to be a lot better this time around. If there's anything Rockstar Games knows, it's open world.[/QUOTE] Actually the rumor was that 2k Czech was helping Rockstar made GTA V's cutscenes and was debunked when 2k officially stated it was false.
All i do in Mafia 2 is drive the greaser cars around and shoot up every restaurant, store and gas station i see.
[QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;46880343]I'd prefer if they went to the 60s and 70s with a big Goodfellas vibe. After all, the beginning of the 70s were referred to as the golden age of the Mafia for a reason. Hopefully it won't have as many missed opportunities as Mafia 2 did.[/QUOTE] I doubt they'll make it back in the timeline honesty, so I think you might get your wish. The 70's also are a really interesting time period.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;46882585]If we don't find out what happened to[sp]our good friend Joe,[/sp]I'm going to be royally pissed.[/QUOTE] Same. He's my fav. character.
Mafia 2 felt so rushed and gutted for DLC. I really hope they learned their lesson.
I saw the 3 first and got excited
[QUOTE=markg06;46882269]That wasn't an ending, it was the middle of the story.[/QUOTE] Did it end Mafia 2? If so, it's an ending. We don't call Terminator 3 the ending of Terminator 2 unless we're talking about the whole series. [sp]I'm not counting the two that came after.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46878972]I have quite little faith in this, Mafia 2 might have been not a terrible game but to me, it never lived up to Mafia 1 by far. Mafia 1 is the focal point of my childhood gaming nostalgia, I highly doubt any game will ever come close to it for me.[/QUOTE] I feel like Mafia 2 had all the fundamentals of a great mafia game, but it really needed some tweaking. It was the whole cover-shooter/regenerating health syndrome that messed things up a bit, were it not for that it would have been as good as mafia 1 IMO. The combat in Mafia 1 was [I]fucking terrifying.[/I] Maybe it's because I was still new to PC games, but no game has ever made me keep my head down like Mafia 1 did, Mafia 2's combat just feel a bit "arcadey" and "headshotty" in comparison to the absolute brutality and panic factor of the combat in Mafia 1. Like the enemy AI was aggressive and intelligent, they'd do shit like rushing you when you're reloading/switching weapons and waiting to ambush you in doorways, you always had to check the top of the stairwell and look behind doors. Mafia 2's generic cover shooter style just doesn't convey the same feel of gritty mafia realism.
Mafia 1 definitely had a better set for AI and a better story and better most things. But Mafia 2 did driving so amazingly well I've yet to find an open world game that comes close to how awesome that game feels to drive in. Mafia 3, if it's too succeed, has to be more like Mafia 1, and I really want a focus on the sandbox element of gameplay.
uh i think u mean this is the thread music bub [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt8iveXlAHY[/media]
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;46882585]If we don't find out what happened to[sp]our good friend Joe,[/sp]I'm going to be royally pissed.[/QUOTE] Sorry, [sp]He wasn't part of the deal[/sp]
I remember when I bought Mafia 1, I was maybe 11 years old and found it used at EB games. I installed it, never played it, then a couple years later figured I'd give it a shot. Never played another game that had such an emotional impact - the storyline is absolutely riveting, the character and plot development are seriously cinema quality. I literally cried at the end, not only because [sp]Tommy dies[/sp], but because I'd spent so many hours screaming my ass off in frustration at some of the absolutely horrible teammate AI. Still - 11/10 game, always holds a special place in my gaming heart.
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