• Emma 'Mattress Girl' Sulkowicz threatens to sue Newsweek for publishing accused's side of story
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[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297610]false rape accusations are a nation wide crisis fuckin lmao Like you guys are so quick to shit on any women because apparently any women who claims someone raped her is an evil whore automatically, but if a man DARED claimed to be raped by a woman you guys would suck his dick off You accuse me of being so quick to defend the victim, what about you guys being so quick to defend the persecutor? Like really, you guys practically worship accused rapists.[/QUOTE] What? No they aren't, absolutely not. But Emma made her case a nation-wide crisis; she made a false-rape accusation a nation-wide crisis. This case has been done to death, with evidence stating to the contrary that she was raped. [editline]fug[/editline] I re-read my post and see how you could interpret me saying false-rape accusations are a nation-wide crisis. I meant that she made her accusation a national-wide crisis, not that this happens often enough that the concept is a nation-wide crisis. [editline]12th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Aldawolf;49298107]YEah like sorry if I was condescending, I just kind of hate this jerk of where people start dogpiling a girl who accused someone of rape, happened in that pornstar thread too, seen it happen a bunch on this forum, it's just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. You spout on about innocent until proven guilty, shouldn't that also be applied to the accuser?[/QUOTE] Because evidence has come up that convinced me that she did, indeed, falsely accused the man. The only thing I saw in the Stoya thread was people adamantly stating their neutral stance. The people who went too harsh one way or another were outliers, and treated as such. There's no "spouting" on the concept of innocent until etc., it's reminding. You're acting as if this is the first time Emma has come up, but she's been relevant for the past year. The case has developed. We aren't hearing her come out and say "I was raped" for the first time, and immediately calling her a cunt for it. We're taking the information we've heard on the case that has come about over time, and, in response to her still affirming her case as well as hostilely trying to censor opposition (i.e., the thread's article), berating her.
And people keep defending her despite the evidence not being in her favor. People are supporting her just because she's a woman. She's literally the leader of a movement right now.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297610] [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Terrible poster" - postal))[/highlight][/QUOTE] I was too slow :angry:
[QUOTE=Craptasket;49299115]I was too slow :angry:[/QUOTE] eternally inferior
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49299107]And people keep defending her despite the evidence not being in her favor. People are supporting her just because she's a woman. She's literally the leader of a movement right now.[/QUOTE] Why?
Isn't this the same girl that did that pornographic, performance art video about rape and then called anyone who watched it a rapist?
[QUOTE=zeroXSBK;49299166]Isn't this the same girl that did that pornographic, performance art video about rape and then called anyone who watched it a rapist?[/QUOTE]She created, starred in, and released a sex tape that was supposedly a reenactment of this rape. And yeah, it included a comment about how anyone who watched now took part in her rape.
[QUOTE=JohhnyCarson;49299131]Why?[/QUOTE] Don't ask me. The fact that she's a feminist hero and respected boggles my mind. She was allowed to take the Mattress up onto the stage during her graduation and was applauded for doing so. She speaks at conferences and leads marches.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;49299115]I was too slow :angry:[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=postal;49299124]eternally inferior[/QUOTE] Trying to remember, is posting screenshots from the RC bannable? Because this will probably be gold.
[QUOTE=download;49300138]Trying to remember, is posting screenshots from the RC bannable? Because this will probably be gold.[/QUOTE] AFAIK it only applies to GMF, and RC is totally fine
[QUOTE=Coment;49300171]AFAIK it only applies to GMF, and RC is totally fine[/QUOTE] Well, hopefully he blows up soon.
[QUOTE=download;49300184]Well, hopefully he blows up soon.[/QUOTE] [t]http://catpanic.eu/upl/2015-12-12_13-16-06.png[/t] He already did
[QUOTE=gokiyono;49300219][t]http://catpanic.eu/upl/2015-12-12_13-16-06.png[/t] He already did[/QUOTE] I was waiting for it to get more interesting.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297523]You people are why rape victims are afraid to report it to the police [editline]11th December 2015[/editline] and people wonder why others say "Rape victims aren't taken seriously"[/QUOTE] Ah yes, guilty until proven innocent sure is a good plan, especially when any attempt to prove innocence is condemned.
I like how wanting to give someone a fair shake and wanting justice makes us a hive mind.
[QUOTE=draugur;49300232]Ah yes, guilty until proven innocent sure is a good plan, especially when any attempt to prove innocence is condemned.[/QUOTE]When it comes to being accused of rape, even if you're proven innocent, the reputation stays.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;49300367]When it comes to being accused of rape, even if you're proven innocent, the reputation stays.[/QUOTE] Even better..
Can we just not condemn anyone until proof is provided.
[QUOTE=jonu67;49300439]Can we just not condemn anyone until proof is provided.[/QUOTE] The simple answer is: no. The default reaction to stuff is to make judgement in one way or another. You actually need to consciously force yourself to not condemn. Most people don't care about what is right, they care about what feels right.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;49300303]I like how wanting to give someone a fair shake and wanting justice makes us a hive mind.[/QUOTE] I love the lack of self awareness too. "Well all of these people have roughly the same opposing viewpoint to my own, perhaps my own logic or argument is flawed. Lul nope, hive mind!" Good riddance. Guilty until proven innocent. Fuck that notion.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;49299923]She created, starred in, and released a sex tape that was supposedly a reenactment of this rape. And yeah, it included a comment about how anyone who watched now took part in her rape.[/QUOTE] I'm 99% sure someone who has experienced traumatic rape would do anything to NOT experience that trauma again Like CREATING A DRAMATIC RE-ENACTING OF THE RAPE for example This woman is not mentally sound
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49300020]Don't ask me. The fact that she's a feminist hero and respected boggles my mind. She was allowed to take the Mattress up onto the stage during her graduation and was applauded for doing so. She speaks at conferences and leads marches.[/QUOTE] No why is it that mentally unsound, dishonest, attention seeking and silly people are applauded and given power?
Emma Sulkowicz is a deceptive, manipulative, and exploitative person. I cannot believe people are still defending her only because she's a woman.
[quote] “Paul Nungesser’s complaint is filled with lies…. I want to warn you to be conscientious about what you publish as ‘fact’ for I may work with a lawyer to rectify any inaccuracies and misrepresentations.”[/quote] The headline is bullshit. 'I'll sue if you publish lies I can prove in court are lies' isn't the same as 'I'll sue if you share his side of the story'. Anyone in a serious controversy would do the same. If a publication takes only your opponent's side of the story and publishes demonstrably untrue claims about you, it's up to the legal system to sort it out. If she sued just because they're publishing his side of the story not only could she not possibly win, but good luck finding a lawyer to carry that to court. She's an awful human being but that's no reason to invent stories to circlejerk over.
[QUOTE=Annoyed Grunt;49300729]Emma Sulkowicz is a deceptive, manipulative, and exploitative person. I cannot believe people are still defending her only because she's a woman.[/QUOTE] Its ironic but certain feminists have these narratives, women are always the oppressed and must be protected, false rape accusations against women are never legitimate, etc. On SH threads its been shown time and time again that people will stick up for women who blatantly lie about rape and stick up for women who blatantly abuse the female card.
[QUOTE=catbarf;49301268]The headline is bullshit. 'I'll sue if you publish lies I can prove in court are lies' isn't the same as 'I'll sue if you share his side of the story'. Anyone in a serious controversy would do the same. If a publication takes only your opponent's side of the story and publishes demonstrably untrue claims about you, it's up to the legal system to sort it out. If she sued just because they're publishing his side of the story not only could she not possibly win, but good luck finding a lawyer to carry that to court. She's an awful human being but that's no reason to invent stories to circlejerk over.[/QUOTE] Sounds more like a threat. [editline]12th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Rangergxi;49301397]Its ironic but certain feminists have these narratives, women are always the oppressed and must be protected, false rape accusations against women are never legitimate, etc. On SH threads its been shown time and time again that people will stick up for women who blatantly lie about rape and stick up for women who blatantly abuse the female card.[/QUOTE] It's confusing how they claim to be strong independent women while also requiring unquestioned protection and defenses.
The problem isn't that you guys are saying the rape allegations are false, it's the fact that you guys jump so quickly to it. Seriously, in that one thread about the Stoya, you guys immediately dogpiled on her for being a fucking whore because she isn't going to the police. The entire first page of that thread is just filled with that shit. [editline]12th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Fort83;49298523]You mean the thread where people wanted to wait for more evidence to come forward before coming to a conclusion on whether or not someone is a rapist based on a few tweets?[/QUOTE] [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1495468&p=49213954&viewfull=1#post49213954]You[/url][url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1495468&p=49213955&viewfull=1#post49213955] seem[/url][url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1495468&p=49213976&viewfull=1#post49213976] to be[/url][url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1495468&p=49213989&viewfull=1#post49213989] remembering[/url][url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1495468&p=49214002&viewfull=1#post49214002] things[/url][url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1495468&p=49214007&viewfull=1#post49214007] wrong[/url]
she was probably not raped
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49301450]Seriously, in that one thread about the Stoya, you guys immediately dogpiled on her for being a fucking whore because she isn't going to the police. [/QUOTE] People were criticizing her for using twitter instead of going through proper justice channels, which sounds like the kind of thing you do when your claims are not legitimate, If she WAS really raped she needs to take it to a court room, where our JUSTICE SYSTEM can handle it. Not run to twitter and publicly ruin someone else's life forever without any evidence. I'm sorry but you can't expect us to take her rape claims any more seriously than she herself does.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;49301554] I'm sorry but you can't expect us to take her rape claims any more seriously than she herself does.[/QUOTE] She did go to the police so its unfair to damn her for that. The evidence they found though made it clear that he did not rape her. Also, her Tweets made it clear that her definition of rape was stupid since she had retroactively withdrawn consent.
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