Survey: Europeans back Muslim veil ban, Americans oppose - Polidicks

You claimed to oppose burkas because you 'can't see who is under the mask,' which is true of all masks. You're either a fascist or a hypocrite, which is it?

So it's fascism to force people to show their faces nowadays

[QUOTE=evilking1;23285864]So it's fascism to force people to show their faces nowadays[/QUOTE] Uh When the government is doing the forcing yes yes it is

[QUOTE=Zeke129;23285888]Uh When the government is doing the forcing yes yes it is[/QUOTE] Why?

[QUOTE=Zeke129;23285888]Uh When the government is doing the forcing yes yes it is[/QUOTE] government also forces me to wear some clothes in the street i have the legal right to be nude, it's part of my culture from 100,000 years ago. fascist pigs.

[QUOTE=evilking1;23285955]government also forces me to wear some clothes in the street i have the legal right to be nude, it's part of my culture from 100,000 years ago. fascist pigs.[/QUOTE] Go ahead, fight for it, fight for nudity, if you think it's worth it - Personally I would not go out naked on the streets, but if you feel that you want to then I won't go against you.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;23285990]Go ahead, fight for it, fight for nudity, if you think it's worth it - Personally I would not go out naked on the streets, but if you feel that you want to then I won't go against you.[/QUOTE] it's part of my culture and i refuse to blend into the norms of the society

[QUOTE=evilking1;23285955]government also forces me to wear some clothes in the street[/QUOTE] You still haven't answered the question. Do you want to ban all masks, or just Muslim ones?

[QUOTE=TH89;23286088]You still haven't answered the question. Do you want to ban all masks, or just Muslim ones?[/QUOTE] so wait if i wanted to ban all, would i be taking the fascist option or hypocrite option i don't want to ban all masks per se, just people wearing any masks in public. halloween and other cosplay-shit is whole another thing imho, but i wouldn't be [I]that[/I] sad if they happened to get banned in public. one option would be registry plates like cars have to be mandatory in burqas hell my jag has a plate and i don't feel oppressed [editline]10:46PM[/editline] even though the fucking huge tax and insurance is fascist oppression

Well, at the school i go to Muslims are allowed to wear hats, that includes ALL hats. Non muslims? Nope no hats. Pretty Dumb.

[QUOTE=FPChris;23286385]Well, at the school i go to Muslims are allowed to wear hats, that includes ALL hats. Non muslims? Nope no hats. Pretty Dumb.[/QUOTE] oh shit even top hats?

[QUOTE=evilking1;23286288]so wait if i wanted to ban all, would i be taking the fascist option or hypocrite option i don't want to ban all masks per se, just people wearing any masks in public. halloween and other cosplay-shit is whole another thing imho, but i wouldn't be [I]that[/I] sad if they happened to get banned in public. one option would be registry plates like cars have to be mandatory in burqas hell my jag has a plate and i don't feel oppressed [editline]10:46PM[/editline] even though the fucking huge tax and insurance is fascist oppression[/QUOTE] Are you comparing banning burqas to being required to license a motor vehicle

[QUOTE=evilking1;23285079] Just since it is part of another culture/religion shouldn't make it acceptable.[/QUOTE] then what do you define as acceptable the reason TH89 calls you a hypocrite is because you don't realize the false dichotomy in what you are saying just because we let people wear veils, it doesn't mean suddenly they get to do whatever horrible thing you wish to conjure

[QUOTE=Zeke129;23286608]Are you comparing banning burqas to being required to license a motor vehicle[/QUOTE] yes, i was totally serious and all about that [editline]11:11PM[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;23286613]then what do you define as acceptable the reason TH89 calls you a hypocrite is because you don't realize the false dichotomy in what you are saying just because we let people wear veils, it doesn't mean suddenly they get to do whatever horrible thing you wish to conjure[/QUOTE] Naturally not, but still a security problem. Just like guns aren't allowed on airplanes, almost nobody wants to hijack the plane but since somebody might, they aren't allowed.

[QUOTE=evilking1;23286880] Naturally not, but still a security problem. Just like guns aren't allowed on airplanes, almost nobody wants to hijack the plane but since somebody might, they aren't allowed.[/QUOTE] another false dichotomy banning the veil has nothing to do with bringing a weapon on to a plane

[QUOTE=evilking1;23286880]yes, i was totally serious and all about that [/QUOTE] Way to backpedal.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;23287552]Way to backpedal.[/QUOTE] plz don't go on or you will find out that i am a closet nazi [editline]11:37PM[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;23287137]another false dichotomy banning the veil has nothing to do with bringing a weapon on to a plane[/QUOTE] yeah ok my opinion is invalid due to my dichotomies

[QUOTE=evilking1;23287659] yeah ok my opinion is invalid due to my dichotomies[/QUOTE] invalid no misinformed and thoughtless, yes

[QUOTE=evilking1;23286288]my jag[/QUOTE] [img]http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7417/mysterysolved.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=NotMeh;23275803]Muslims aren't a race[/QUOTE] Islam is bullshit, its not the people them self, its the crap 'religion' they follow. Not all Muslims are bad people really, but theres always the extremist pricks.

[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;23288954]Islam is bullshit, its not the people them self, its the crap 'religion' they follow. Not all Muslims are bad people really, but theres always the extremist pricks.[/QUOTE] great uneducated opinion, got some more? [editline]08:29PM[/editline] [QUOTE=evilking1;23285955]government also forces me to wear some clothes in the street i have the legal right to be nude, it's part of my culture from 100,000 years ago. fascist pigs.[/QUOTE] being nude in public is disturbing, wearing a veil is not. [editline]08:31PM[/editline] [QUOTE=evilking1;23286073]it's part of my culture and i refuse to blend into the norms of the society[/QUOTE] oh right so they're trying to refuse to blend into the norms of society by wearing something for their religion? you're getting more and more stupid with every post

[QUOTE=JerryK;23289844] being nude in public is disturbing, wearing a veil is not.[/QUOTE] disturbing to closed-minded and intolerant people [editline]01:38AM[/editline] [QUOTE=JerryK;23289844] oh right so they're trying to refuse to blend into the norms of society by wearing something for their religion?[/QUOTE] being nude is not a religion as far as i know

People are scared that if they ban them that extremists will take action.

The Europeans are more effected by Muslims. There's some stuff going on over there that may be getting on some people's nerves.

I'm not saying all muslims are violent, but Sweden has changed since 1930.

Quit veiling over this already

[QUOTE=Chekko;23291074]I'm not saying all muslims are violent, but Sweden has changed since 1930.[/QUOTE] You weren't even alive in 1930.

[QUOTE=AimlessGiant;23290395]People are scared that if they ban them that extremists will take action.[/QUOTE] it has nothing to do with having the right to something relating to your religion, right? :downs:

[QUOTE=Raneman;23291040]The Europeans are more effected by Muslims. There's some stuff going on over there that may be getting on some people's nerves.[/QUOTE] that's the thing, there isn't anything people like to think that getting rid of muslims fixes the economy

Islam need stricter laws, for example every single rape case in Oslo Norway 2008 was made by immigrants, every single one. All these immigrants came from outside the western world. They need to change their view on women, simple as that. It's just sad that such a large group will be effected. [QUOTE=thisispain;23293350]that's the thing, there isn't anything people like to think that getting rid of muslims fixes the economy[/QUOTE] Here in Oslo it's 6 times bigger change for a woman to get raped compare to New York.