Survey: Europeans back Muslim veil ban, Americans oppose
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[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;23293390]Islam need stricter laws, for example every single rape case in Oslo Norway was made by immigrants, every single one. All these immigrants came from outside the western world. They need to change their view on women, simple as that. It's just sad that such a large group will be effected.[/QUOTE]
a. source
b. rape being bad isn't a western concept
[QUOTE=thisispain;23293440]a. source
b. rape being bad isn't a western concept[/QUOTE]
Source? it was on the news.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bir5vMv4sEg[/url]
*Oh shit you don't understand Norwegian.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN13ma9bc2k[/url] here is subs.
"lets help them by banning it!"
Wow, the amount of European racists in this thread astounds me.
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;23293565]Source? it was on the news.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bir5vMv4sEg[/url]
*Oh shit you don't understand Norwegian.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN13ma9bc2k[/url] here is subs.[/QUOTE]
reactionary nonsense
and you said all, 41 is nowhere close to all
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;23293603]Wow, the amount of European racists in this thread astounds me.[/QUOTE]
When will America start taking in immigrants? :o
indigenous? give me a fucking break
[QUOTE=thisispain;23293754]reactionary nonsense
and you said all, 41 is nowhere close to all[/QUOTE]
41 was all the rapes in oslo 2008.
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;23293759]When will America start taking in immigrants? :o[/QUOTE]
I'm from Canada, and where I live 40% of the population is 1st or 2nd generation immigrants.
[QUOTE=Dr. Freeman;23288954]Islam is bullshit, its not the people them self, its the crap 'religion' they follow. Not all Muslims are bad people really, but theres always the extremist pricks.[/QUOTE]
Got any evidence to back up Islam being bullshit?
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;23293777]41 was all the rapes in oslo 2008.[/QUOTE]
i can't find any sources for this except one which says 61% of rape was committed by foreigners
either way you're not suggesting any logical link, rape would exist regardless of immigration policy and if you actually think the west is the only part of the world that frowns down upon rape, you probably need to take a class in history
Is it racist to hate religion?
Also, I hate them because many people that wear that shit also begs for money, and takes their child with them that are also learned to beg.
[QUOTE=kobilica;23293875]I hate them because many people that wear that shit also begs for money, and takes their child with them that are also learned to beg.[/QUOTE]
what on earth are you talking about
[QUOTE=kobilica;23293875]Is it racist to hate religion?
Also, I hate them because many people that wear that shit also begs for money, and takes their child with them that are also learned to beg.[/QUOTE]
You say people yet what you're saying implies one. Are you saying that all Muslims are one entity?
[QUOTE=thisispain;23293883]what on earth are you talking about[/QUOTE]
you heard it from the piper! [B]all [/B]people who wear veils are beggars!
[QUOTE=thisispain;23293854]i can't find any sources for this except one which says 61% of rape was committed by foreigners
either way you're not suggesting any logical link, rape would exist regardless of immigration policy and if you actually think the west is the only part of the world that frowns down upon rape, you probably need to take a class in history[/QUOTE]
Here i even translated it for you.
[url]http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Fnyheter%2Fnorge%2F1.6567955&sl=no&tl=en[/url]
72.8% of rapes in 2007 was made by foreigners , 63.2% in 2004 and 53% in 2001.
We are not racist, we just know we got a problem and we are trying to do something against it.
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;23294085]Here i even translated it for you.
[url]http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Fnyheter%2Fnorge%2F1.6567955&sl=no&tl=en[/url]
72.8% of rapes in 2007 was made by foreigners , 63.2% in 2004 and 53% in 2001.
We are not racist, we just know we got a problem and we are trying to do something against it.[/QUOTE]
bahha like what
i'll wait
(ps none of those numbers are 100%, you've shown you don't know what you are talking about, and quit the "we" bullshit. you've done nothing to prevent rape)
[QUOTE=thisispain;23294105]bahha like what
i'll wait
(ps none of those numbers are 100%, you've shown you don't know what you are talking about, and quit the "we" bullshit. you've done nothing to prevent rape)[/QUOTE]
Naaah the 100% was in oslo. The other was in norway. Stop acting like a dick, it's proven statistics.
Just ban the fucking things already, the Veil is humiliating.
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;23294163]Naaah the 100% was in oslo. The other was in norway. Stop acting like a dick, it's proven statistics.[/QUOTE]
so far you haven't proved anything
and statistics mean nothing without context, in your context you're trying to say "rape was a totally foreign concept till the muslims came in".
[QUOTE=thisispain;23294760]so far you haven't proved anything
and statistics mean nothing without context, in your context you're trying to say "rape was a totally foreign concept till the muslims came in".[/QUOTE]
So 100% of the rapes in oslo 2008 that was committed by immigrants doesn't have any context? What do you mean? It's pretty obvious, immigrants from none western countries raped women. Why? Probably due another women view or psychological trauma. We have admitted that there is a problem, and a problem should be solved. *Or are we racist for pointing that out?
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;23294990]So 100% of the rapes in oslo 2008 that was committed by immigrants doesn't have any context? What do you mean? It's pretty obvious, immigrants from none western countries raped women. Why? Probably due another women view or psychological trauma. We have admitted that there is a problem, and a problem should be solved. *Or are we racist for pointing that out?[/QUOTE]
what does being a foreigner have to do with rape?
[QUOTE=thisispain;23295098]what does being a foreigner have to do with rape?[/QUOTE]
A foreigner have bigger chance to commit rape, changing their view on women by for example a veil ban is a good start. Women rights are imporant.
I really doubt that only 28% of the whole of America would agree with a ban.
Realistically, I believe it would be much higher if you surveyed the whole of America, or at least got a sample size of more than 4000, in America.
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;23295461]A foreigner have bigger chance to commit rape, changing their view on women by for example a veil ban is a good start. Women rights are imporant.[/QUOTE]
How about police officers start doing their jobs? That would be even better. And how the fuck would banning veils stop foreigners from raping women?
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[QUOTE=DogGunn;23295615]I really doubt that only 28% of the whole of America would agree with a ban.
Realistically, I believe it would be much higher if you surveyed the whole of America, or at least got a sample size of more than 4000, in America.[/QUOTE]
You're from Australia, how would you know?
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;23295663]You're from Australia, how would you know?[/QUOTE]
I've been to America many times, spoken to the locals... many times too. From my experience, American's are tolerant of certain people and not of others.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;23275557]We're actually far more tolerant then many realize.[/QUOTE]
yeah? thats why gay marriage still isnt legalized, woman still aren't allowed on the front lines and were only recently allowed in naval submarines, there is still racial hate crimes, and why we have the words under god in our pledge of allegiance.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;23295663]How about police officers start doing their jobs? That would be even better. And how the fuck would banning veils stop foreigners from raping women?[/QUOTE]
Changing immigrants view on women silly, read the post. Police is doing their jobb or hell lets place police officers all over Oslo at night. Not to mention they actually caught the rapists so they did their job.
[QUOTE=shatteredwindow;23295713]yeah? thats why gay marriage still isnt legalized, woman still aren't allowed on the front lines and were only recently allowed in naval submarines, there is still racial hate crimes, and why we have the words under god in our pledge of allegiance.[/QUOTE]
This man got the right view.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;23295700]I've been to America many times, spoken to the locals... many times too. From my experience, American's are tolerant of certain people and not of others.[/QUOTE]
What part? If it was Texas that might explain it.
yankees hate commies
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