[QUOTE=Dlaor;21265679]Yes but NS2's lighting is better.[/QUOTE]
Maybe because they've advanced 6 years?
Animations look like they could use some work, especially seeing how good the animations were for the mutant things. They can do much better for the weapons.
I'm downloading and i didn't pre-order, am i bad?
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Oh wait, you need a key, FFFUUU-
[QUOTE=Leintharien;21262219]I recorded a session in the engine test. It's still processing so you might want to wait a bit. Otherwise you can jump right in and take a look.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f7c-5TXVao[/media][/QUOTE]
I wonder if you're wearing some sort of plush shoes in that video, because I didn't hear any footsteps.
[QUOTE=layla;21265758]Better how? I assume you have access to the source code for both projects to make that crazy assumption? I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, It's just a stupid thing to say that one thing is better than another when you have no clue how either of the systems working in the first place. Valve have the resources to cobble together a nice little lighting system but they don't need to yet.
Probably wont listen to reason but hopefully someone with the same attitude will.[/QUOTE]
It's pretty obvious why Source's lighting sucks. I know how Source's lighting works. Just take a look at the viewmodels... when you stand in a dark area, the global lighting on the viewmodel gradually goes down. In NS2, there's actual shadows projected on the viewmodel. Although this is also the case with dynamic lights in Source (point a lamp at them in Gmod and you'll see), the static lighting still could use some improvement.
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Although, my argument will probably be turned invalid when Portal 2 comes out.
Now they just need to set up the steam [I]Pre-orders[/I] already.
[QUOTE=ZestyLemons;21267485]I wonder if you're wearing some sort of plush shoes in that video, because I didn't hear any footsteps.[/QUOTE]
this isn't a demonstration of the game, it was released to let players walk around their maps to get a better feeling out from the proportions, they added the weapon and shooting range thing as an extra, this is like pre-alpha material
Erm, It looks a bit like the new AvP.
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The weapon does atleast
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So do the maps
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That game sucked though.
[QUOTE=Dlaor;21267856]It's pretty obvious why Source's lighting sucks. I know how Source's lighting works. Just take a look at the viewmodels... when you stand in a dark area, the global lighting on the viewmodel gradually goes down. In NS2, there's actual shadows projected on the viewmodel. Although this is also the case with dynamic lights in Source (point a lamp at them in Gmod and you'll see), the static lighting still could use some improvement.
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Although, my argument will probably be turned invalid when Portal 2 comes out.[/QUOTE]
I don't think NS2 uses viewmodels, just try moving close to a wall and you'll see your model clip through the wall (they should fix this), and go in thirdperson mode via console, the reload animations are 100% accurate
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[QUOTE=DeandreT;21268132]Erm, It looks a bit like the new AvP.
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The weapon does atleast
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So do the maps
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That game sucked though.[/QUOTE]
except the first natural selection is probably one of the best game i've ever played
what the fuck, i need to buy the game to use the tech demo?
this is pretty sweeet
also what m_b said
[QUOTE=M_B;21268404]what the fuck, i need to buy the game to use the tech demo?[/QUOTE]
This is more like a preview of what you can expect.
Still, i agree. If i were to release a tech demo, i'd release it to everyone, so that i can make sure everyone has a chance of playing, i'd make more money since more people would buy it than if i just give it to people who already have
It's not a tech demo, it's an engine test. The difference is that this is being made available to those who have supported the team already. The team, in turn, gives back to those who have supported them by giving them an early look at an early engine build.
Don't forget that this build allows map makers to test out their maps that they created using the previously released map builder tools, so it gives them plenty of time to begin tweaking their creations prior to the official release.
i suppose that's fair, but if i do recall, a few games have allowed you to test maps and have access to some of the engines with their demos, in recent history, Crysis and Unreal Tournament 3
With a team of around 4 in-studio workers, I wouldn't have been surprised if they didn't have the time to release this test. Especially with everything else that has to be done.
But they did and that got them major +BRO points in my books.
engine test is moddable as fuck, it's only been a day and people have made a deathmatch gamemode, I'm messing around with it myself
[QUOTE=Dlaor;21265346]THIS, is why the Source engine is outdated.[/QUOTE]
at least in the Source engine movement works properly and the view model doesn't clip through geometry.
[QUOTE=Crazy_Farmer;21272949]engine test is moddable as fuck, it's only been a day and people have made a deathmatch gamemode, I'm messing around with it myself[/QUOTE]
Are you using that one from mediafire? If there are more people with this, we could make a LAN deathmatch server and use the connection through Hamachi?
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMP5nvc0vEA[/media]
Shows the third person animations. (Processing while this was posted)
[QUOTE=Leintharien;21262219]I recorded a session in the engine test. It's still processing so you might want to wait a bit. Otherwise you can jump right in and take a look.
[URL="http://www.facepunch.com/#"]View YouTUBE video[/URL]
[URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=8f7c-5TXVao[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SteveUK;21274251]at least in the Source engine movement works properly and the view model doesn't clip through geometry.[/QUOTE]
My house is better than Bob's mansion because Bob's mansion doesn't have any doors.
...what's that? Bob's house is still under construction? Pfffrt, who cares, [i]my[/i] house has [b]doors[/b].
[QUOTE=SteveUK;21274251]at least in the Source engine movement works properly and the view model doesn't clip through geometry.[/QUOTE]
Seriously dude theres like 4 people working on this whole game, the engine they created is pretty fucking amazing
you'll need a key...
That's pretty stupid
Btw, What the hell is Zips doing in the FP advertisement bar?
[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/1pdz50.png[/IMG]
I love it.
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[QUOTE=B1N4RY!;21279405]you'll need a key...
That's pretty stupid
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Not really, because this isn't even the alpha and UW wouldn't release this for free.
[QUOTE=B1N4RY!;21279405]you'll need a key...
That's pretty stupid
Btw, What the hell is Zips doing in the FP advertisement bar?
[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/1pdz50.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
let's give a pre-alpha for free to everyone who will inevitably bitch about instability and "stiffness" in a pre-alpha while we could give it to our pre-orders that are people who actually care about the game and have been waiting for this for years
yeah
Spent two minutes in it, then just quit. Can't wait for the actual release.
[QUOTE=Crazy_Farmer;21281643] people who actually care about the game and have been waiting for this for years
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more like fanboys. also did you know that things like free tech demo can make MORE people buy the game?
Why would you let everyone use the test if the main point of it was to let the people who can use the editor be able to walk around their maps? The novelty is just too small for someone with only access to the test itself. The example levels are just that. Examples for the people making their maps to get an idea of the atmosphere. And you could spend maybe 2 minutes of exploring before coming back to known areas anyways.
People will complain a lot more if this was released to the general populous. Their knowledge and support of the game is too much to gamble on, and good publicity is everything for an independent developer.
[QUOTE=snuwoods;21264438]Isn't this only for the guys who [b]paid[/b] for the "premium" download?[/QUOTE]
:eng101:
Seems like even the TORRENT FILE is down. Could somebody up it to filesmelt or somewhere?
[QUOTE=qwerty000;21282407]more like fanboys. also did you know that things like free tech demo can make MORE people buy the game?[/QUOTE]
do you even understand the point of this release? They're not giving it out to the public because they don't want people to base their view of the game off an engine test, because tons of idiots would do it
They're giving it to the people that they know they care enough about the game to report bugs, features like online connectivity issues and such, performance
This isn't a tool they made for everyone, it was requested by the community to test their maps in the actual engine, check map proportions and the like
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