Iceland may ban MasterCard, Visa over WikiLeaks censorship - Polidicks

I had been contemplating changing my card actually.

it makes me rage my teeth out that fp support julian assange he's doing good but he'll do more bad trying to do good

He hasn't done anything bad yet whats your point

Didnt wikileaks like, write a bill that was accepted by EVERYONE in the parliament in Iceland?

[QUOTE=Jsm;26691014]Iceland is pretty pro Wikileaks, because they exposed how shit their banking system was or something.[/QUOTE] no they exposed corruption

[img]http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/97848488.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=6C4008C0FD9EB5A504CAA2AFCB9F60E98ABCF82186FA109CB88B6602BA94DAE1[/img] Meanwhile, in Iceland.

[QUOTE=Ogris;26693212]Didnt wikileaks like, write a bill that was accepted by EVERYONE in the parliament in Iceland?[/QUOTE] Yeah, its mentioned briefly in the Wikileaks documentary.

Hey idiots. Think about the people who have money on those cards. Instead of sucking Julians dick you should feel bad

thats not very n[b]ice[/b] xD

[QUOTE=TheSpy;26693904]Hey idiots. Think about the people who have money on those cards. Instead of sucking Julians dick you should feel bad[/QUOTE] [i]may[/i] ban Mastercard and visa. And since when is the money used by credit cards been money on their account? Do you know how credit cards work? They're pretty fucking retarded to be honest.

Injustice? Where is the injustice? They were two companies that didn't want to risk getting caught up in a legal shitstorm. Do they not have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason? Are they going to be forced to serve everyone? How is that justice?

How are they being forced to serve wikileaks? They're currently just asking why they're not allowing their customers to donate to wikileaks, yet they can use those same cards to donate and support hate groups etc.

[QUOTE=GunFox;26696834]Injustice? Where is the injustice? They were two companies that didn't want to risk getting caught up in a legal shitstorm. Do they not have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason? Are they going to be forced to serve everyone? How is that justice?[/QUOTE] Iceland's government can support WikiLeaks if they want. Just because they have the right to refuse service doesn't mean that everyone else has to support the decision. You'll just have to deal w/ it :c00lbert: I feel like GunFox hates WikiLeaks more and more every time he posts in a Wikileaks thread from wild, vague speculation and barely any knowledge of WikiLeaks.

[QUOTE=Vinze;26688333]Huh, I guess "Freedom isn't free." had a different meaning...[/QUOTE] I beg to differ. After all, I am the "One true free man". Maker of lame jokes.

I like this chain of banning. Who's going to ban Iceland for banning Mastercard for banning Wikileaks now?

[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;26697439]Iceland's government can support WikiLeaks if they want. Just because they have the right to refuse service doesn't mean that everyone else has to support the decision. You'll just have to deal w/ it :c00lbert: I feel like GunFox hates WikiLeaks more and more every time he posts in a Wikileaks thread from wild, vague speculation and barely any knowledge of WikiLeaks.[/QUOTE] Mostly I just loathe the bandwagon support. People just rally behind wikileaks with absolutely zero question. I'm poking about trying to find solid legal grounds for Iceland to even be questioning them on this and I'm coming up empty. Either they have legal grounds to shut them down and will do so, or they don't and this is the exact opposite of justice.

Kind of hypocritical when people like Assange for his beliefs with free speech and whatnot and then when private companies disagree with what he does, they basically boycott them and crash their site because they have a different opinion. Just another thing that shows how ignorant his followers really are.

[QUOTE=GunFox;26696834]Do they not have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason?[/QUOTE] Does Iceland not have the right to govern itself? It may shock and surprise you Gunfox, but the rest of the world is [b]not[/b] the United States. (That means they are different, just in case you missed that)

[QUOTE=Zeke129;26698015]Does Iceland not have the right to govern itself? It may shock and surprise you Gunfox, but the rest of the world is [b]not[/b] the United States. (That means they are different, just in case you missed that)[/QUOTE] My point is that if they have the legal grounds to screw them, then do it, otherwise what they are doing is legal. Stop assuming you understand me in the slightest, you never fail to get it completely wrong.

[QUOTE=GunFox;26698072]My point is that if they have the legal grounds to screw them, then do it, otherwise what they are doing is legal. Stop assuming you understand me in the slightest, you never fail to get it completely wrong.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure that if it was illegal for Iceland to do this they wouldn't be able to be doing this. It's just one of those things

hopefully they won't have to follow through with this and mastercard and visa shit themselves enough to let donations go through again

fucking wikileaks. I've got stock in Mastercard.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;26698015]Does Iceland not have the right to govern itself? It may shock and surprise you Gunfox, but the rest of the world is [b]not[/b] the United States. (That means they are different, just in case you missed that)[/QUOTE] Hi, Yeah, Visa, Mastercard, really every company in the whole world reserves the right to refuse service. As far as I know no nation currently objects to that, common sense really, lets them refuse criminals, people who abuse the systems or loopholes, RL trolls in all their forms essentially. Now you are right that Iceland is technically well within its rights to refuse to allow Visa or MC to operate there, but under what grounds would they do so? Because they object to the companies application of its long standing ToS? Or just some sort of political stunt? Really if you think about it, banning these companies makes Iceland worse than Visa or MC , having done what it technically is allowed to do under its laws but with less legal reasoning that the other side for their ban, because neither company has broken any laws, while nobody can deny that Assange has broken god knows how many laws. Oh and obviously it would be a shot in the gut of the recovering Icelandic economy to ban the two most prolific plastic money companies in the world.

A country with a collapsed banking system banning a credit card company and a company that relies on credit cards. Oh no.

[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26693933][i]may[/i] ban Mastercard and visa. And since when is the money used by credit cards been money on their account? Do you know how credit cards work? They're pretty fucking retarded to be honest.[/QUOTE] HURR look at me I have a $1,000,000 house and a $100,000 car that was bought on credit I SO RICH!

God I love Scandinavian countries, their governments have always seemed to be the least corrupt and most righteous recently.

This is moronic. I'm sure plenty of the nation's residents need both these companies; banning them over capitulation to international pressure is just stupid.

So iceland did something with there high IQs

[QUOTE=GunFox;26697839]Mostly I just loathe the bandwagon support. People just rally behind wikileaks with absolutely zero question. I'm poking about trying to find solid legal grounds for Iceland to even be questioning them on this and I'm coming up empty. Either they have legal grounds to shut them down and will do so, or they don't and this is the exact opposite of justice.[/QUOTE] gunfox: expert lawyer

[QUOTE=GunFox;26697839]Mostly I just loathe the bandwagon support. People just rally behind wikileaks with absolutely zero question. [/QUOTE] I was against wikileaks until I found out what it really was. many different people agree does not mean bandwagon. [editline]14th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Meller Yeller;26697936]Kind of hypocritical when people like Assange for his beliefs with free speech and whatnot and then when private companies disagree with what he does, they basically boycott them and crash their site because they have a different opinion. Just another thing that shows how ignorant his followers really are.[/QUOTE] yea its because the company has a different opinion. I dont support them doing that to there sites but it but it was because the companies were practically trying to kill wikileaks