[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32533374]Not everything has to be an earth-shaking catastrophe. Can you give me one reason why they shouldn't be allowed to go shirtless? Just a note, the "people don't want to see it" argument is void, because men are allowed to go shirtless, and that same argument would apply.[/QUOTE]
For the same reason they're not allowed to go bottomless. They simply have more to show.
[editline]28th September 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32533382]When women can be arrested for not wearing a shirt, that's a problem.[/QUOTE]
frankly I disagree
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32533374]Not everything has to be an earth-shaking catastrophe. Can you give me one reason why they shouldn't be allowed to go shirtless? Just a note, the "people don't want to see it" argument is void, because men are allowed to go shirtless, and that same argument would apply.[/QUOTE]
Because a shirtless man doesn't have sex organs showing.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32533385]For the same reason they're not allowed to go bottomless. They simply have more to show.[/QUOTE]
By this logic women should be able to go bottomless while men should not, given that they have "less to show". What I'm saying is, that makes no fucking sense.
Holy fuck!
Only on FP can you get a massive argument about Rihanna being topless.
You people amaze me.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;32533405]Because a shirtless man doesn't have sex organs showing.[/QUOTE]
You're aware it's the same body part, just smaller and less functional, right?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32533411]By this logic women should be able to go bottomless while men should not, given that they have "less to show". What I'm saying is, that makes no fucking sense.[/QUOTE]
What makes no sense is that bullshit "by this logic" conclusion you shat out, please explain it further for simpletons like me
I think the farmer misheard the phrase "tits or gtfo".
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32533421]What makes no sense is that bullshit "by this logic" conclusion you shat out, please explain it further for simpletons like me[/QUOTE]
If your reasoning is that "they aren't allowed to go shirtless because they have more to show", then surely they should be allowed to go bottomless because in that regard they have "less to show"? How is it not the same?
[QUOTE=NicoleEmilid;32533426]I think the farmer misheard the phrase "tits or gtfo".[/QUOTE]
Obviously she failed to produce timestamp, thus gtfo was required
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32533372]I disagree with the fact that we should massively redefine sexuality in our society for the sole purpose of fixing a very small, as you call it, violation of rights.[/QUOTE]
It can't be massive and small at the same time. If it's massively different, it has other effects too.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32533435]If your reasoning is that "they aren't allowed to go shirtless because they have more to show", then surely they should be allowed to go bottomless because in that regard they have "less to show"? How is it not the same?[/QUOTE]
I don't mean "more" or "less" to show in the sense that there is more physical matter in female versus male breasts. I mean it in the sense that they have one more developed sexual characteristic.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;32533405]Because a shirtless man doesn't have sex organs showing.[/QUOTE]
Tell a medical professional that you think breasts are a sex organ.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32533448]I don't mean "more" or "less" to show in the sense that there is more physical matter in female versus male breasts. I mean it in the sense that they have one more developed sexual characteristic.[/QUOTE]
And why does that mean they can't be allowed to go shirtless?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32533460]And why does that mean they can't be allowed to go shirtless?[/QUOTE]
[I]for the same reason they can't go bottomless[/I]
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32533435]If your reasoning is that "they aren't allowed to go shirtless because they have more to show", then surely they should be allowed to go bottomless because in that regard they have "less to show"? How is it not the same?[/QUOTE]
No one wants either gender to go bottomless, so don't even try that argument.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;32533405]Because a shirtless man doesn't have sex organs showing.[/QUOTE]
Breasts aren't sex organs.
[editline]28th September 2011[/editline]
Not that it matters anyway
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;32533475]No one wants either gender to go bottomless, so don't even try that argument.[/QUOTE]
You're not quite understanding his argument, shitty as it is
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;32533475]No one wants either gender to go bottomless, so don't even try that argument.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't care less if they want to run nude through the streets, don't give me this "no one wants to see it" nonsense.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32533480]Breasts aren't sex organs.
[editline]28th September 2011[/editline]
Not that it matters anyway[/QUOTE]
[I]secondary sexual characteristicsss[/I]
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32533421]What makes no sense is that bullshit "by this logic" conclusion you shat out, please explain it further for simpletons like me[/QUOTE]
More of the male sexual organs are outside the body. For the female however, they're all jammed inside the girl.
simple enough?
you're saying since females have more to show, they can't go topless. Megafan is riding that wave of logic and saying men have more to show down below, so they can't go bottomless.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32533495]You're not quite understanding his argument, shitty as it is[/QUOTE]
his argument is literally your argument that's why it's shitty
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32533467][I]for the same reason they can't go bottomless[/I][/QUOTE]
Which is what? That people "don't want to see it"?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32533460]And why does that mean they can't be allowed to go shirtless?[/QUOTE]
You like to argue about pointless stuff, don't you?
It's really a stupid argument because you can pretty much walk topless on the street if you just feel like and it doesn't matter if you're a male or a female, because no one will come and tell you, "put a shirt on, that's disgusting".
Unless they're old.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32533499][I]secondary sexual characteristicsss[/I][/QUOTE]
cool
not a sex organ though
[editline]29th September 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;32533511]You like to argue about pointless stuff, don't you?
It's really a stupid argument because you can pretty much walk topless on the street if you just feel like and it doesn't matter if you're a male or a female, because no one will come and tell you, "put a shirt on, that's disgusting".
Unless they're old.[/QUOTE]
where do you live
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32533499][I]secondary sexual characteristicsss[/I][/QUOTE]
Still not explaining why this makes it illegal to go shirtless. If you're going to base on sexual development, what about flat-chested girls, what about women who had to have their breasts removed via surgery? You're drawing an arbitrary line with no logical basis for it.
I wouldn't really want to go topless for long. Gravity is a bitch, if you know what I mean.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;32533511]You like to argue about pointless stuff, don't you?
It's really a stupid argument because you can pretty much walk topless on the street if you just feel like and it doesn't matter if you're a male or a female, because no one will come and tell you, "put a shirt on, that's disgusting".
Unless they're old.[/QUOTE]
Maybe in Finland, but not in any of the more conservative countries...
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;32533511]You like to argue about pointless stuff, don't you?
It's really a stupid argument because you can pretty much walk topless on the street if you just feel like and it doesn't matter if you're a male or a female, because no one will come and tell you, "put a shirt on, that's disgusting".
Unless they're old.[/QUOTE]
People don't really appreciate topless people of any gender, unless you are at places like the beach or beach cities.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;32533511]You like to argue about pointless stuff, don't you?
It's really a stupid argument because you can pretty much walk topless on the street if you just feel like and it doesn't matter if you're a male or a female, because no one will come and tell you, "put a shirt on, that's disgusting".
Unless they're old.[/QUOTE]
Except that women can and will be arrested for going topless.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32533518]Still not explaining why this makes it illegal to go shirtless. If you're going to base on sexual development, what about flat-chested girls, what about women who had to have their breasts removed via surgery? You're drawing an arbitrary line with no logical basis for it.[/QUOTE]
Flat-chested would have to keep tops on. Somewhat related, very young girls, like toddlers, would have no issues of course.
Women with breasts removed... shit I dunno, I guess
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