• Jerry Seinfeld thinks he may be on the autistic spectrum
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no like, i mean what's the point in saying 'x are y' then saying in a later post that 'x are not always y'. they are contradictory and contribute nothing
[quote]The stand-up comic, who just launched the fifth season of his Web series "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee," added that comics are "the only kind of people that I feel completely relaxed around." That's why he's continued to execute the conversational show, which delivers on exactly what the title promises.[/quote] Have any of you watched it? It's quite a treat.
The term autistic has lost is meaning Jesus.. I thought it was supposed to be used for people who cannot stand crowds and don't talk much or they simply ignore everything around them mostly when concentrating on anything. My father calls me that because I am useless which is very true I give up easily on anything that i don't enjoy and honestly nothing affects me mentally either.Its like being "dead" almost or depressed. There's a ton of meanings you can apply to someone depending on their everyday behavior. I thought retard is a more appropriate term which usually applies to the easiest example: "He threw the can of soda instead of simply handing it over which resulted in a waste of 1$" Yeah I'm talking randomly again, whatever.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46442381]Normal people are boring[/QUOTE] at least im not a sperg lol
Am I the only that feels like that this could actually be an episode of Seinfeld?
I dislike the way people throw around words like autism, ADD and OCD like it's this characteristic that you either have or don't have. We all are on the same spectrum, but all in different places. Except for the extreme of both ends, there are many benefits that come along with your place.
[QUOTE=SexualShark;46442860]ive met quite a few autistic people and as i said above there are exceptions. the common theme that i have noticed in lower and even in the highest functioning echelons is how literal they are and how they dont beat around the bush about what they want or what they are thinking and state their opinions loudly.[/QUOTE] You mean like what you are doing now?
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;46442535]So am I, and I don't particularly take a kind eye to it when you've had the whole internet stereotype of you being some weird socially, awkward person by members of your own fucking family. Last fucking thing people like me need is more stereotyping.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://collectionofawesome.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/deal_sloth.gif[/IMG] Life tip: learn to laugh. You'll have a more enjoyable existence. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Reaction image" - Craptasket))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Pennywise;46442374]Wouldn't it be [i]really[/i] hard to flourish as a comedian while on the autism spectrum to any noticeable degree, since the job hinges on crowd reading skills and a sociable personality?[/QUOTE] Not really, I mean, I have aspergers and I do great in front of crowds. I've done a few speeches and a musical once in school and apparently I actually do really well. Those aren't comedy, but they apply to general crowd stuff. A lot of people also say I should be a comedian, which is great considering that's what I've always wanted to be. I guess a lot of people make the instant connection that autism spectrum = socially crippled but it ain't so. Anyway, it'd actually be good for people with autism if it turns out he is autistic or has aspergers. A dude as famous as him could really help the image.
Isn't his only big thing that show? I know a ton of people loved it and all but why is he talked about so much? it died in the 90's but people still seem to talk about him all the time he says some really mundane thing in the style of the show and somehow that's funny because he's famous or sometime. has he actually made any new original material [I]at all[/I] since then?
[QUOTE=Pennywise;46442374]Wouldn't it be [i]really[/i] hard to flourish as a comedian while on the autism spectrum to any noticeable degree, since the job hinges on crowd reading skills and a sociable personality?[/QUOTE] his brand of comedy specialises in taking note of the failings in things we all take for granted i mean his catch phrase is "whats the deal with [insert thing taken for granted] today anyway?"
Damn the generalization of a disorder! "Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by impaired social interaction, verbal and non-verbal communication, and by restricted and repetitive behavior." Damn you wikipedia! a disorder cant be generalized. Seriously though, Autism as in the disorder can be generalized, People on the autism spectrum can't be; completely different disorders on it. But seriously, it shouldn't be called the autism spectrum.
[QUOTE=SexualShark;46442805]no, thats a pretty accurate observation. i didnt just pull that out of thin air and say it. ive taken that from experience.[/QUOTE] Autism is a spectrum. It's not one condition. There's, like, thousands of different disorders that fall under the spectrum. Autism is an umbrella term for a variety of psychological "problems" that impact one's ability to process ideas in the same way as the general population. That's why they're typically very awkward people. I work with a group of autistic kids every winter to help them perform a little play, and every single one of those kids has their own quirks and problems. Some are hyper to the point that they can't participate in general activities, some are so shy that they refuse to talk to anyone but one or two girls, and others need to be the absolute center of attention literally all the time. I certainly don't work with high-functioning people on the spectrum, but none of these kids have bizarre interests or obsessions and none of them have ever gotten mad in "hilarious" ways. There's one high-functioning autistic boy in my high school, he's got the sonic thing going on and everything, and he only gets pissed off and annoying if you try to mess with him. He's a totally endearing kid and he talks to us a lot, but I've only seen him get frustrated and "hilarious" when one of my dickish friends started telling him made-up bullshit about video games that he loves. Don't rain on their parade and they'll keep marching in it. [editline]8th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=sltungle;46443906] Life tip: learn to laugh. You'll have a more enjoyable existence.[/QUOTE] It's really not that easy for people with autism to just "get over" things, especially being one of the most harshly judged and sterotyped demographics that has no way to reasonably defend itself without being dismissed and laughed at.
[QUOTE=J!NX;46443942]Isn't his only big thing that show? I know a ton of people loved it and all but why is he talked about so much? it died in the 90's but people still seem to talk about him all the time he says some really mundane thing in the style of the show and somehow that's funny because he's famous or sometime. has he actually made any new original material [I]at all[/I] since then?[/QUOTE] For the most part Seinfeld was his "big thing". And I guess he was the lead in "Bee Movie" (remember that? It was a thing). He's done some guest appearances in some TV shows (usually as himself). And he does a web series called "Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee" (which is pretty good IMO). But yeah, in the world of comedy he's still huge, which is probably why he's still talked about.
[QUOTE=Demache;46444383]For the most part Seinfeld was his "big thing". And I guess he was the lead in "Bee Movie" (remember that? It was a thing). He's done some guest appearances in some TV shows (usually as himself). And he does a web series called "Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee" (which is pretty good IMO). But yeah, in the world of comedy he's still huge, which is probably why he's still talked about.[/QUOTE] He's so wildly popular and still pretty much a household name because his type of comedy was so different from what existed at the time. He really broke new ground with his overanalysis of everyday phenomena. That's what his show was about, the weird gray areas in our society and social interactions where we really have no set rules or anything. His comedy is somehow totally relatable, since he points out the miniscule things that no one ever puts thought into. That brand of comedy itself sounds a lot like how people with autism can see the world, to be honest. Although we're all technically on the spectrum, in a way.
If wikipedia is anything to go by 80% of FPers are autistic. Including me [editline]9th November 2014[/editline] Shit I always wondered about the lineup thing
[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;46444450]He's so wildly popular and still pretty much a household name because his type of comedy was so different from what existed at the time. He really broke new ground with his overanalysis of everyday phenomena. That's what his show was about, the weird gray areas in our society and social interactions where we really have no set rules or anything. His comedy is somehow totally relatable, since he points out the miniscule things that no one ever puts thought into. That brand of comedy itself sounds a lot like how people with autism can see the world, to be honest. Although we're all technically on the spectrum, in a way.[/QUOTE] Yeah exactly, it makes perfect sense. People with autism are often bad at adhering to these social norms, but they still might observe and notice them and just not necessarily see the point of participating in them.
[QUOTE=Demache;46444383]For the most part Seinfeld was his "big thing". And I guess he was the lead in "Bee Movie" (remember that? It was a thing). He's done some guest appearances in some TV shows (usually as himself). And he does a web series called "Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee" (which is pretty good IMO). But yeah, in the world of comedy he's still huge, which is probably why he's still talked about.[/QUOTE] Semi-related but I heard from one of my nurses that some of the detainees at Gitmo really liked Bee movie, and would often ask to watch it.
I don't know, I guess he could be autistic. Not really why people are getting all worked up by this, I think plenty of people have went "do I have X???" [QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46445507]Semi-related but I heard from one of my nurses that some of the detainees at Gitmo really liked Bee movie, and would often ask to watch it.[/QUOTE]I don't know why but this made me laugh my ass off, I imagine some hard terrorist types just gathered around being loud and rowdy watching this goddamn animated kids movie. prison does things to a man
[QUOTE=Showgun;46442349][quote][img]http://cabecadecuia.com/files/2012/05/29/Untitled-11_aa89fc12067e3c2d063a4e6b1896c3eag.jpg[/img][/quote] who knew?[/QUOTE] More like [img]http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=961461&d=1399581091[/img]
[QUOTE=.Lain;46442997]no like, i mean what's the point in saying 'x are y' then saying in a later post that 'x are not always y'. they are contradictory and contribute nothing[/QUOTE] By this logic, there is no point in saying "x are y" about almost anything ever. There are very few things which are entirely, 100% consistent, with no exceptions, variations or limitations at any point ever. That said, autism is such a broad and nigh meaningless "condition" that you really can't say much about the average autist. It's just way too broad.
Autism is too damn broad and can apply to 100% of population which cannot be allowed
[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;46447325]Autism is too damn broad and can apply to 100% of population which cannot be allowed[/QUOTE] i don't think you know what autism is
[video=youtube;_V2sBURgUBI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V2sBURgUBI[/video] a little late to the party but hey
Awkwardness in conversation is a common characteristic of Asperger's. With the lack of understanding of Autism and specifically Asperger's, it's possible that he could have it. I suppose a diagnosis is the most accurate way to tell. He's 60? I feel old now.
[QUOTE=adamsz;46459211]Awkwardness in conversation is a common characteristic of Asperger's.[/QUOTE] That's the problem though, it's so over-diagnosed that anyone who's remotely introverted/awkward is probably gonna get diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome. They really need to narrow down the symptoms to, you know, the shit that's actually notable. Like having weird-ass fixations on certain things or constantly avoiding eye contact.
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;46442475]I'm autistic and I still find it funny.[/QUOTE] I have autism spectrum and have been diagnosed by multiple psychologists and experts. And I found it hilarious. I don't get how the Sonic series correlates with autism that's like saying if you like the mario series you're autistic. [editline]11th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;46447325]Autism is too damn broad and can apply to 100% of population which cannot be allowed[/QUOTE] Are you a behavioral scientist or expert obliviously not. [editline]11th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46442391]Autism doesn't mean you are asocial. It means [I]some[/I] your social abilities are diminished or work in unusual way.[/QUOTE] Autism spectrum isn't full blown autism it just means you can have pieces of autism. for instance you can have 1 disorder on the spectrum and someone else could have 2 or three different levels on the spectrum it's different for everybody.
Seinfeld aside.. 90% of what the internet thinks is autism these days is just plain old social awkwardness like really dog, you spend all day every day on a computer and you think you might have autism because you have trouble talking to people, ffs.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46442352]Considering how loose the conditions for somebody being diagnosed with autism are, self diagnosis might be perfectly sufficient. That only proves how irrelevant it is, tho.[/QUOTE] I did a self diagnosis test 200 ish questions and came back that I am on the autism spectrum so I think self diagnosis is perfectly good as long as you do a reliable test.
We've all got a little autism in us, since everyone's fundamentally different. There is no 100% perfect model personality that everyone is judged in comparison to. People who are autistic in the clinical sense are that way because they're a little further away on the spectrum from the general population. I have no sources for any of this, this is all just stuff I've speculated in more of a philosophical manner.
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