[QUOTE=Killergam;17942811]Source: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8317520.stm[/url]
Obama made a mistake, again. Non us Citizens from other countries, being tried on US Soil, for crimes against Humanity, and America, thats not really US's Job, it will be too easy on them. To be honest, if your planning to kill 1000 people by blowing yourself up, then you should be shot.[/QUOTE]
YES WE FUCKING LIBERTARIANS WIN FOR ONCE.
due process yes yes yes
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[QUOTE=Killergam;17944979]Im not a American, dumass.[/QUOTE]
thank god
americans can use some more positive PR
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17943975]But water boarding doesn't harm the person in any way. Might scare them a bit into feeling like they're drowning, but it doesn't have any injuries to them.[/QUOTE]
Watch Christopher Hitchens getting waterboarded.
[QUOTE=Killergam;17944979]Im not a American, dumass.[/QUOTE]
You best be trollin.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17943975]But water boarding doesn't harm the person in any way. Might scare them a bit into feeling like they're drowning, but it doesn't have any injuries to them.[/QUOTE]
Water Boarding can cause brain damage.
And damage to the lungs.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;17954361]This is another one of Obama's good ideas that severely lack any kind of planning or forethought.
The man is like a third-grader who wants a hovercraft. He knows what he wants but damned if he can get there.[/QUOTE]
He has to get through the bureaucratic channels to do anything, So it's going to take a while to do anything.
[QUOTE=Luke510;17954516]He has to get through the bureaucratic channels to do anything, So it's going to take a while to do anything.[/QUOTE]
Obama hasn't even in been in office for a year yet, people are expecting him to turn the world around in a matter of months.
It simply isn't realistic, give the man his time.
[QUOTE=Killergam;17942858]Theres a few "Torture Scandals" but it's aload of crap, of course a few techniques you could count as torture, but compare the US to a Islamic Country, their they cut your arms off for Stealing, the most the US does was a drowing technique, Where they dunk your head in water for about 30 seconds, pull it out, unharmed, but your body thinks your drowing, great technique to get someone to talk.
"Human Rights"... What Human rights do people like that deserve? The right to live? Maybe, The right to get away with it? No Fucking Way.[/QUOTE]
except waterboarding is covering your mouth and nose and pouring water over your face
no dunking involved
[QUOTE=Killergam;17946800]-Snip- The sand dweller isn't worth my time.[/QUOTE]
I lolled
[QUOTE=Cheesemonkey;17954676]except waterboarding is covering your mouth and nose and pouring water over your face
no dunking involved[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58[/media]
While closing Gitmo is a good step, it's merely a ruse to calm down the masses. What helps is the operation at Gitmo was fairly small so it can be dismantled quickly.
However, this doesn't mean the US will stop torture. Tortures have been carried out, and in a much worse fashion, at the Bagram Prison. In most regards it's far worse than Gitmo and even with Gitmo being closed, torture will continue there regardless (as it has already been). However I doubt anyone will be willing to address that directly, because they need to prove they're being "tough" on the terrorists.
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[img]http://thebluerepublic.com/Gallery/albums/Dustys-Album/Bagrams_Gitmo.jpg[/img]
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[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/20/international/asia/20abuse.html[/url]
:911:
[QUOTE=dirty harry;17942895]Except they might not have even done anything. Innocent people have been held in Guantanamo Bay simply due to the [b]fear and xenophobia that has gripped America since the September 11th attacks.[/b][/QUOTE]
They achieved their objective.
Exactly.
They're called [B]TERROR[/B]ISTS for a reason.
I'll voice my opinion:
If they're terrorists, they deserve it. Fuck human rights. Some people don't deserve rights.
[QUOTE=HeyMate;17955884]I'll voice my opinion:
If they're terrorists, they deserve it. Fuck human rights. Some people don't deserve rights.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to go ahead and toss murderers, rapists, child abducters, and any combination of the three in there too.
[QUOTE=HeyMate;17955884]I'll voice my opinion:
If they're terrorists, they deserve it. Fuck human rights. Some people don't deserve rights.[/QUOTE]
Except we don't really know if they even are terrorists.
They haven't had a trial.
[QUOTE=HeyMate;17955884]I'll voice my opinion:
If they're terrorists, they deserve it. Fuck human rights. Some people don't deserve rights.[/QUOTE]
you're no fucking different
What's so different between a serial killer who has killed 50 children and a terrorist? Nothing. There is no difference at all. So stop with the crap of "terrorists aren't human blahblah".
Counting from the dumb ratings to the blind conservative posts, and the sheer amount of those posts, goes to hint that liberals are less outspoken and quietly there reading, while the conservatives seems to need to shout their opinion as fast as possible, even though there is far less of them on Facepunch.
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[QUOTE=HeyMate;17955884]I'll voice my opinion:
If they're terrorists, they deserve it. Fuck human rights. Some people don't deserve rights.[/QUOTE]
Yes... give in to your hate. Soon your conversion to the dark side will be complete!
[QUOTE=Killergam;17942858]"Human Rights"... What Human rights do people like that deserve? The right to live? Maybe, The right to get away with it? No Fucking Way.[/QUOTE]
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
(Paragraph 2, the Declaration of Fucking Independence)
[QUOTE=HeyMate;17955884]I'll voice my opinion:
If they're terrorists, they deserve it. Fuck human rights. Some people don't deserve rights.[/QUOTE]
starting with you.
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