Samsung SmartTVs Are Recording Your Conversations And Watching Your Movements
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I'm gonna activate this feature and whisper the most obscene things to the tv
Hmm, sounds like the sort of challenge that could be made into a great DEFCON talk.
So like kinect?
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;47099185]I think they're a great IDEA, I just think they have a few years before they become up to snuff with what they should be.[/QUOTE]
I think smart-TVs could just aswell be replaced by a cheap computer sitting in the cupboards next to the tv.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;47099930]Am I the only one who has ditched buying a TV all together? Since HDMI came out to monitors I've always used my computer monitor for TV shit since it has HDMI.[/QUOTE]
I actually don't own a monitor with HDMI. I always use external speakers so DVI vs HDMI is pretty much a toss up. Of course, my primary TV is a CRT so there's that.
[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;47099880]Your voice recordings are sent to a third party service to process because your TV isn't powerful enough to do that. So if you say anything you don't want to get processed by a third party, just don't turn on voice recognition.[/QUOTE]
And this doesn't concern you at all?
[QUOTE=FetusFondler;47101093]And this doesn't concern you at all?[/QUOTE]
Calm down, you or anyone else on FP isn't important enough for people to be snooping around voice recordings of you and your dad arguing about what movie to watch
[QUOTE=FetusFondler;47101093]And this doesn't concern you at all?[/QUOTE]
Why should it? That's a requirement of the service being used. Just turn it off if you don't want your voice data to be used. Like, it's not very different from normal telephone or Skype conversation. It's all 3rd parties handling your voice data. Except in this case your commands are stored to make the voice recognition better.
It's a good example of machine learning actually, and nothing to be afraid of.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;47101170]Calm down, you or anyone else on FP isn't important enough for people to be snooping around voice recordings of you and your dad arguing about what movie to watch[/QUOTE]
You can be caught in blanket surveillance regardless. Don't need a human operator to order a specific wiretap.
[QUOTE=Tinter;47099054]It's not for surveillance though, just for use in the algorithm that controls the voice recognition and improves its accuracy. The only thing to be worried about is that it could save the data and send it to someone else, in theory.[/QUOTE]
People are dumb and paranoid about things they don't understand.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;47101170]Calm down, you or anyone else on FP isn't important enough for people to be snooping around voice recordings of you and your dad arguing about what movie to watch[/QUOTE]
On top of this, if someone legitimately want to spy on you, they wouldn't be using a smart TV. Your cell phone would infinitely more useful. It follows you from room to room and phone calls can be legally wiretapped.
If a government agency wanted to spy on you, they very well would find a way to make that happen, regardless of what you owned.
I would hope that the voice data sent to a 3rd party is simply deleted unless a command is actually detected.
I don't see why a "smart" TV couldn't be made to only recognize a wake-up command [I]on it's own[/I], and [I]then[/I] send voice data to a 3rd party. That would be the way to go if Samsung didn't want to make the general public panic about something like this.
[QUOTE=Matt2468rv;47101941]I would hope that the voice data sent to a 3rd party is simply deleted unless a command is actually detected.
I don't see why a "smart" TV couldn't be made to only recognize a wake-up command [I]on it's own[/I], and [I]then[/I] send voice data to a 3rd party. That would be the way to go if Samsung didn't want to make the general public panic about something like this.[/QUOTE]
I imagine is this is how it works. Most voice command systems wait for a key phrase so it knows when to process the voice info. Its not like its uploading a stream to your living room. :v:
Turn off the fucking voice recognition and problem solved
-crt 4 lyfe-
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;47102105]And this is why my TV is still a 21" CRT. It's not broken, so I'm not replacing it.
[B]EDIT:[/B] What's so dumb about that?[/QUOTE]
I guess not buying a new TV dumb.
Also have a 24" tube tv for my primary TV. Then again, only have SD cable, no incentive to replace it when my computer can play Blu-rays.
what isnt monitoring you these days
no one cares that you masturbate to hentai on your samsung smart tv and talk about your anal spots, why the fuck would anyone have a problem with being part of a research project that improves the quality of said product that they bought? you're already being spied on by your and other governments, among others who may be interested in collecting data on a mass scale [sp](aliens)[/sp]
why?
why does my tv have to listen in on conversations to generate data for 3rd party companies, what possible benefit will this have and how long will it even be supported until they stop using it
[QUOTE=Sableye;47107233]why?
why does my tv have to listen in on conversations to generate data for 3rd party companies, what possible benefit will this have and how long will it even be supported until they stop using it[/QUOTE]
Voice recognition is based on lots and lots of data of, you know, people speaking.
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;47100019]Only if you run Windows ;^)[/QUOTE]
Is this sarcasm? I kind of have a hard time telling.
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