• Man saves drowning family, but they leave him to drown in return
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Holy shit that's just disgraceful.
Jesus Christ It's like my entry level Ethics course all over again. [editline]16th July 2012[/editline] They are absolute fuckers for leaving him like that, especially since he saved all of them for all of them to leave him there is damn well messed up.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;36800711]The price of rescuing someone from drowning is risking your own death. He was willing to take the chance and paid the price. They elected not to risk it, which I can't fault them for doing. Consider this: till he rescued them, they were going to drown right? So how does that make them qualified to rescue a drowning person, they couldn't rescue themselves![/QUOTE] I could show some empathy towards them if that actually was their reason, but it wasn't. They said it was none of their damn business.
lankist goddamnit man, I honestly can't believe I've agreed to every single post of yours in this thread what is society coming to
Prooboo you seriously need a hug or something.
I googled this to see if another site covered it, found this on a reddit post: [quote]I went and found a Chinese article on this. Here it is, roughly translated by Google: About 5:00 pm on July 3, Loudi municipal government in front of the Sun River Park River, a family of three accidentally fell into the water shouting for help, the three members of the public did not know each other the heard the news rushed to the river and rescued a family of three, but a rescuepeople drowned due to extremely weak. To save people drowning in which the river is a ferry terminal, two or three meters deep shallows of the river over more than five meters. According to reporter understanding, Yongjiu a three drowning rescue those killed in the name of Deng Jinjie, 27 years old, is Loudi City Louxing District tea plantation, honest, and likes the dog. On the afternoon of July 3, Deng Jinjie and friends in the Sun riverside walk the dog, went to a ferry terminal, I heard cries for help of a three center of the river, the Deng Jinjie one off his coat jumped into the river, first woman to swim the past issued ground. Subsequently, two members of the public also joined the ranks of the rescue. When a family of three were rescued, it was discovered the first of the first rescue Deng Jinjie, but sink into the river. People who heard about, and some go into the water search and rescue, and some hurried call to the 110,120 emergency calls. However, due to drowning too long, the fire department rushed to salvage a Dengjin Jie has been killed. Rescued a family of three, and no one any thanks silently disappeared in the crowd. The Loudi police to investigate the matter, Louxing District Standing Committee, Politics and Law Committee Secretary Liu Jie said the public security organs will make every effort to find out the truth of the matter. Ben Wang also called on to provide clues to look forward to the family appeared to restore the truth. Anyway, the translation is pretty awful, but basically the gist of it is that the rescuer (Deng JinJie) was walking his dog with a friend along the river bank, heard the family yelling for help, and he, along with 2 others, dove into the water to rescue them. After the family got ashore, people then noticed Deng JinJie was in trouble as well, and some people went in to rescue him, some called 110 and 120 [police and ambulance, respectively]. The people that went in the water was unable to rescue him, and by the time emergency personnel got there it was too late. Note: Not a single mention of the family's supposed quote. After reading this, I got curious as to what happened to the family. I found this article. The picture that is found in the link from the OP also comes from this website so I guess it's the original source of the news. The article is an account of the day's events from the two other men who dove in to save the family. What they told wasn't too different from the first article I translated above, except for the following: The woman from the family, upon being rescued, was begging her rescuers to find her husband, who, according to some witnesses, had already gotten out and had left. There's no car that the family just "drove away in". In fact, nobody really even paid much attention to them once it was discovered Deng Jinjie was drowning People weren't just standing around doing nothing. The people that were around were doing what they could. Here are some other articles regarding the situation: Deng Jinjie's family received $300,000 Yuan from a local (state-owned, I believe) corporation. Link Deng Jinjie's funeral link The Chinese Red Cross and another local corporation providing his family with supplies and money link The point I am trying to make is that when something like this happens, "Chinese people" aren't as apathetic as you seem to think. They are, usually, as pissed off as you are. I'm not trying to single you out or anything, but people should stop having the impression that Chinese people are heartless bastards who eat babies. TL;DR: Reddit likes sensationalist headlines.[/quote] [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/wn53w/man_saves_drowning_family_only_for_them_to_leave/[/URL]
"none of my business" yeah it was none of his business either you selfish fucks god damn
All of my rage. These people deserve a fucking saw scenario
I hope they drown in a lake of boiling water.
[QUOTE=prooboo;36798795]No, but I have parents, and when I was a toddler, I know for a fact that if I were at risk of being killed, my parents (and any good parent, really), would murder someone to protect their child. That's the parent's most basic job, to protect their child no matter what.[/QUOTE] Holy shit you are deluded You must have been raised by wolves or something worse On-topic : like many people, shit like this gets me impossibly mad. Letting the man who just saved your life die and driving away like it's nothing not even looking at what his fate will be is just the lowest of low.
[QUOTE=Haxxer;36798102]Shame you can't charge them for something over this. If their names are released, I bet they'll be national prime examples of assholes.[/QUOTE] IDK about their country, but over here it's illegal to watch someone die and not do anything, the least you have to do in any case is call the emergency services and wait for them, and most likely a judge would rule that they would have had to do a whole lot more here.
It definitely exits a "too afraid to help" climate over here in China. But believing that no one would help you when shit fucks up in China is stupid as hell.
Thing is... They don't value human life like we do over here in Europe and the Americas. I've also seen things like people feeding cows while their children are starving over in India, where it is also very densely populated
Things like this just make me angry...ungrateful people...I have lost the little faith I had left in humanity >:LLLL
[QUOTE=prooboo;36798668]Oh I'd be pissed. But god knows I'd murder someone else' family to save mine. If you wouldn't, you'd be a terrible father.[/QUOTE] jesus fuck what is wrong with you [editline]17th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=draugur;36802375]Wer all human bengs and desrve to be not druwnd?[/QUOTE] joke officially dead
[QUOTE=RBM11;36805677]I googled this to see if another site covered it, found this on a reddit post: [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/wn53w/man_saves_drowning_family_only_for_them_to_leave/[/URL][/QUOTE] Soo, now this entire story might just be completely wrong now?
Lol china nice going with all those retarded laws. The asians have they crap upside down
I hope they look back on this and realize they are heartless monsters.
[QUOTE=prooboo;36798668]Oh I'd be pissed. But god knows I'd murder someone else' family to save mine. If you wouldn't, you'd be a terrible father.[/QUOTE] Never have children. Ever.
By prooboo's logic I should kill him because he poses as a threat to my children and as a good father I must protect him all the cost and kill every other children bullying my children and the parents who protect the bullies and the friends of the parents etc etc Seriously, your arguments are just so wrong and do not fit there at all. You need some serious psychological help, your point of views differs too much from ours
[QUOTE=Starpluck;36798499]Reminds me of this, China as well: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r8LvM20-C0&t=27s[/media][/QUOTE] If I remember correctly the main reason things like this happens is because China's good Samaritan laws are poor, if any. If the family had saved the man, it could actually be possible for the man to sue the family for damages and win them in court. Edit: Aw, I spaced out and forgot this thread had 7 pages already.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;36808086]If I remember correctly the main reason things like this happens is because China's good Samaritan laws are poor, if any. If the family had saved the man, it could actually be possible for the man to sue the family for damages and win them in court.[/QUOTE] There was a case here recently in California where two women were driving, in separate cars. The first woman crashes. The second woman, her friend, arrives on the scene and pulls the first woman out of her car through the window. The woman in the crash suffered permanent injuries. She sued her friend for causing the injuries. The friend thought the car might catch on fire, so she 'rescued' the woman in car. If she had simply left her friend in the car and waited for professionals, with the proper tools and training, to deal with it her friend wouldn't have suffered permanent disability. Good intentions are fine, but it's not smart to jump and 'do something' if you can't guarantee you know what you're doing. You'll just make things worse by 'doing something'. That's why I don't blame people who seem to be callous when it comes to this sort of stuff. You can get sued and even if you win, you lose because you'll have to spend a lot of money on a lawyer to win your case.
If the excuse was "we had a child, we were incapacitated, we couldn't do anything without risking ourselves too", then I could understand the situation. But I pray to my nonexistent gods that these idiots find their car careening into the water, and nobody coming to rescue them because "it's not their business". Of course, wishing them death is sickening. Suffering, though, that's fine by me. [editline]17th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=prooboo;36798262] It's cold, sure, but you can't be weak in front of your family either.[/QUOTE] Can't be WEAK in front of your family? Are the words you have typed even registering in your brain? [editline]17th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=prooboo;36798739]I'm saying they have no obligation to help him[/QUOTE] No, they don't. Nobody is ever obligated to do anything that may endanger their lives. But leaving a man (who just saved your life) to drown with the excuse "it's not my damn problem" puts you, in my book, about on the level with mass murderers and people who talk during movies.
I think people should read what happened after the incident and what the family did. It's shits like these that gives us Chinese a bad impression, which makes me feel really bad becuase not everyone in China are heartless. If poeple looked hard enough, they can find GOOD stories about Chinese people, but the bad ones just simply catches more attension. That's sad.
[QUOTE=Kingbob387;36813418]I think people should read what happened after the incident and what the family did. It's shits like these that gives us Chinese a bad impression, which makes me feel really bad becuase not everyone in China are heartless. If poeple looked hard enough, they can find GOOD stories about Chinese people, but the bad ones just simply catches more attension. That's sad.[/QUOTE] It's the level of indifference to suffering and death that bothers me the most (that video where the kid is run over multiple times and stepped over especially). It's as foreign to me as Chinese culture, language, etc, and I don't believe that would EVER happen here. If someone were lying in the street being run over and lying in a pool of blood, a dozen people would be on their phones getting license plate details (photos or whatever), moving the victim and offering first aid if they could, calling the authorities, even chasing the people in the vehicles down. I don't think anyone would step over a wounded child like that, and I know nobody would let another person drown, especially if they had saved them first.
[QUOTE=GodKing;36813585]It's the level of indifference to suffering and death that bothers me the most (that video where the kid is run over multiple times and stepped over especially). It's as foreign to me as Chinese culture, language, etc, and I don't believe that would EVER happen here. If someone were lying in the street being run over and lying in a pool of blood, a dozen people would be on their phones getting license plate details (photos or whatever), moving the victim and offering first aid if they could, calling the authorities, even chasing the people in the vehicles down. I don't think anyone would step over a wounded child like that, and I know nobody would let another person drown, especially if they had saved them first.[/QUOTE] It's not that the people are indifferent to the suffering of that child, it's the fact that they're afraid to help. Also you can't say for sure it won't happen wherever you live, anything can happen anywhere. People are always afraid to help to a certain extent until one person takes action first.
Mainland Chinese people are the worst.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;36808086]If I remember correctly the main reason things like this happens is because China's good Samaritan laws are poor, if any. If the family had saved the man, it could actually be possible for the man to sue the family for damages and win them in court.[/QUOTE] In the video you just quoted, nobody is picking up the toddler because as soon as you help her, it's your child as far as I know. Bent laws at it's finest.
[QUOTE=Kingbob387;36820606]It's not that the people are indifferent to the suffering of that child, it's the fact that they're afraid to help. Also you can't say for sure it won't happen wherever you live, anything can happen anywhere. People are always afraid to help to a certain extent until one person takes action first.[/QUOTE] I suppose, but I'd like to think most people here are decent enough not to step over a wounded child, I mean come on.
[QUOTE=GodKing;36821538]I suppose, but I'd like to think most people here are decent enough not to step over a wounded child, I mean come on.[/QUOTE] I'd like to think people here in China isn't that bad too. But people are just simply scared to help. [editline]18th July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Aznsniper911;36820932]Mainland Chinese people are the worst.[/QUOTE] Stereotyping others doesn't make you any good neither.
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