Massive tornado annihilates Joplin, MO - killing 89+
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Dear god thats worse than the May 31st 1999 EF5 that hit Oklahoma City.
Those videos are scary. I have never seen tornado witness videos as bad as that.
Could you guys imagine what it must be like? To have your life but lose absolutely everything else? All your possessions, all your things you've saved up for years to buy, all basically trash. Not to mention if you lost loved ones, friends or pets. Absolute emotional devastation.
Whole lives completely destroyed in a days time. Most of those people probably lost their jobs seeing as their office was probably flattened.
I feel blessed to live in a tornado/earthquake/tsunami free place.
Much strength wished to those affected. :smith:
Whoa that's a whole lot of shit gone to waste
Shit dude I used to drive through there all the time when i go to college
[QUOTE=Death n1;30020132]You know, it may not be as cheap but would it really hurt to make your home out of bricks and stone? Something more fortified - immobile. I mean it can't hurt. What about a home built into the ground so the roof is at ground level. Sure, if it's built wrong there will be some serious projectiles but is that really what you would be worrying about when a tornado hits? Having a home to go back to I think would be the best feeling there is after such a catastrophe. In my opinion it would be a great investment in such countries like this.
I had seen a half stone structure that was pretty much in tact except the top was missing but that was probably wood! Oh well. If there's a reason behind making your tornado prone homes out of wood and not a stronger material then please tell me, it's been an issue that has been bugging me for some time. I've just never bothered to look it up.
My heart goes out to everyone involved in these horrifying disasters. They would scare the hell out of me.[/QUOTE]
I think a lot of it is down to expensive, wooden houses are a lot cheaper and easier to build when compared to bricks, also wood is a easy resource to get locally, whereas bricks you need to have a brickworks, a clay pit etc.
Also even a house made of bricks I doubt would offer much protection, brick walls are pretty god dam easy to push over (relatively speaking), they are not used in house design to take lateral forces, they take the compressive load of the house and transmit it to the foundation, not to withstand the massive forces a tornado would exert on it.
The dome idea is good, but it would be a huge pain in the ass to form, not to mention the expense, also the fact that a lot of people would probably not like the idea of living in what is essentially a bunker, even if it practically an impenetrable fortress.
I am not too sure on the price of houses in the states, but from what I remember my auntie and uncle and their 4 children had a massive house out in New Jersey when they moved over, coming from a bungalow dwelling back here in the UK.
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So we spent decades developing an advanced warning system and even with 20 minutes notice you can't make it to safety?
:eng99:[/QUOTE]The safest place when in the path of a tornado is in your own cellar or basement.
Anyone who couldn't get to their basement, and possibly even some who did, were killed.
Well the storm did hit, for us though it was a little anticlimactic since all we got was 5 minutes or so of rain, that's about it really :v:
Indeed, the good people of Joplin are under yet another tornado watch.
10 more killed Oklahoma from tornadoes, some deaths in Kansas, and more breaking out in Texas. Waddafuxup.
[b]Oh god please read[/b]
Reporting from Liberty MO, news stations everywhere are saying tornados are forming again, and actually heading torwards where I live, I'm freaking the fuck out for once :ohdear:
I'm underground in a apartment right now and there's lights flashing like crazy outside and it's one hell of a storm, god this is scary.
[QUOTE=Xieneus;30023811]Dear god thats worse than the May 31st 1999 EF5 that hit Oklahoma City.[/QUOTE]
You mean the May 3rd F5 tornado? You can't really compare them if you don't even know the scale that the May 3rd one was in, not to mention the date.
[editline]24th May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sift;30037666][b]Oh god please read[/b]
Reporting from Liberty MO, news stations everywhere are saying tornados are forming again, and actually heading torwards where I live, I'm freaking the fuck out for once :ohdear:
I'm underground in a apartment right now and there's lights flashing like crazy outside and it's one hell of a storm, god this is scary.[/QUOTE]
The probability of a tornado forming the late is pretty low, although not too unlikely. The odds of that tornado being severe are even lower. The odds of it hitting you, your neighborhood, or even your town are lower than that.
[QUOTE=Rocket;30035257]Apparently tornado in Oklahoma city, killed two.
What's with all the tornadoes this year?
Oh, and just got this message from one of my steam friends about one of my steam friends
:ohdear:[/QUOTE]
Oh, there are tons of tornadoes every year. It is just that most don't reach the level of the one in Joplin. Hell, I hear about 5-8 tornado warnings per year and I live rather close to the edge of Tornado Alley.
I'd hate to be living right in the middle of it.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;30037721]You mean the May 3rd F5 tornado? You can't really compare them if you don't even know the scale that the May 3rd one was in, not to mention the date.
[editline]24th May 2011[/editline]
The probability of a tornado forming the late is pretty low, although not too unlikely. The odds of that tornado being severe are even lower. The odds of it hitting you, your neighborhood, or even your town are lower than that.[/QUOTE]
Hope so, just going off what the news is blaring repeatedly and the sounds of the storm outside.
[QUOTE=Sift;30037770]Hope so, just going off what the news is blaring repeatedly and the sounds of the storm outside.[/QUOTE]
I lived through the same storm four hours ago, no worries! The worst I got out of it was the annoying sound of tornado sirens mixed with my TV blaring the emergency broadcast sounds.
[QUOTE=Adius Shadow;30020869]Believe me, the only structure a tornado would really be ineffective against would be a dome.
But it's not the tornado that does the damage, it's the debris.[/QUOTE]
Wait a minute, when the tornado hits in the first place there wouldn't be any debris to use as projectiles...
[QUOTE=sltlamina;30037912]Wait a minute, when the tornado hits in the first place there wouldn't be any debris to use as projectiles...[/QUOTE]
The wind it projects continuously picks up debris until the tornado dissipates.
[QUOTE=Death n1;30020132]You know, it may not be as cheap but would it really hurt to make your home out of bricks and stone? Something more fortified - immobile. I mean it can't hurt. What about a home built into the ground so the roof is at ground level. Sure, if it's built wrong there will be some serious projectiles but is that really what you would be worrying about when a tornado hits? Having a home to go back to I think would be the best feeling there is after such a catastrophe. In my opinion it would be a great investment in such countries like this.
I had seen a half stone structure that was pretty much in tact except the top was missing but that was probably wood! Oh well. If there's a reason behind making your tornado prone homes out of wood and not a stronger material then please tell me, it's been an issue that has been bugging me for some time. I've just never bothered to look it up.
My heart goes out to everyone involved in these horrifying disasters. They would scare the hell out of me.[/QUOTE]
When you design any structure (e.g. a home) you have to make a series of compromises to find the ideal plan. You could build a tornado-proof structure but it would be a poor choice for the following reasons:
[list][b]It would compromise the comforts of living in the home - [/b][i]One of the most important elements in architectural design is the use of natural light; biologically we have a need for it and a lack of it can make a space quite uncomfortable. A tornado-proof structure would need to either be underground or have little to no windows as they are major weaknesses in high winds. Other issues would be: how would you have a garage? how would utilities read your meters? would you have a yard?[/i][/list]
[list][b]It would be expensive - [/b][i]A tornado-proof home would require the owner to hire a specialized contractor for its construction and would require the use of more expensive materials like high-strength concrete and shatter-proof glass. Both may be difficult to obtain depending on location and would require substantial costs in getting them to the site.[/i][/list]
[list][b]Would require finding an ideal location - [/b][i]This will vary by region, but many areas place careful restrictions on the designs of structures. Any structure you build must conform to codes assigned by state and local governments, and housing organizations if deed restrictions exist. Concrete bunkers aren't typical and may violate those provisions.[/i][/list]
Even if you are willing to put up with less natural light, [i]and[/i] you can afford it, [i]and[/i] you can find a place to build it, is it a sensible decision? How often does a tornado (or other natural disaster) affect your area? If you are concerned about your property, homeowners insurance is a far cheaper and easier option for keeping it safe. If you are concerned about your life or your family, a reinforced basement is a far more effective investment.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;30037803]I lived through the same storm four hours ago, no worries! The worst I got out of it was the annoying sound of tornado sirens mixed with my TV blaring the emergency broadcast sounds.[/QUOTE]
Man I'm dead you liar
[QUOTE=SoaringScout;30014611][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuU-nFuIZN4[/media]
Fucking HUGE.[/QUOTE]
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