Russian Soldier Takes Bullet In Head, Shrugs It Off, Has It Removed With Pliers - Polidicks

Business as usual in the motherland from the looks of it.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40736584] I'm not an expert in physics nor do I have a degree in anything related to it, I'm just using common sense here.[/QUOTE] Its a little arrogant to think that your own common sense is enough to determine whether or not an such event can [i]possibly[/i] happen under [i]any[/i] circumstances.

[QUOTE=RosettaStoned;40736396]How the fuck do you know?[/QUOTE] Because of the laws of the fucking universe.

[QUOTE=RosettaStoned;40736396]How the fuck do you know?[/QUOTE] Shooting steel at oblique angles [I]never[/I] results in ricochets, it's the preferred form of target shooting for experienced shooters for that reason. It's physically impossible to get a complete reversal, let alone by chance having it strike somebody non-lethally [I]on camera[/I]. If it was a frequent occurrence, frequent enough to cause a freak accident like that, people would not be shooting steel. Overall the chances of it being a hoax are much higher than the chances of the absolute freak occurrence happening in the first place. [editline]22nd May 2013[/editline] Man easily fakes video for fun vs Statistically impossible physical occurrence being captured on camera.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;40737024]Shooting steel at oblique angles [I]never[/I] results in ricochets, it's the preferred form of target shooting for experienced shooters for that reason. It's physically impossible to get a complete reversal, let alone by chance having it strike somebody non-lethally [I]on camera[/I]. If it was a frequent occurrence, frequent enough to cause a freak accident like that, people would not be shooting steel. Overall the chances of it being a hoax are much higher than the chances of the absolute freak occurrence happening in the first place. [editline]22nd May 2013[/editline] Man easily fakes video for fun vs Statistically impossible physical occurrence being captured on camera.[/QUOTE] It's not physically impossible to get a direct return ricochet. From a thread on the subject of ricochets: [quote] if the energy from the round is able to dent the metal backstop or metal plate target into a bowl sort of shape then if another round comes in and catches the edge it can then slide around the curve and come back off the opposite side. If the dent is rounded enough the exit tangent can be right back at you.[/quote] I've seen shotgun birdshot do this after being shot into a concave bowl, the shot slid around and exited directly back at the shooter.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;40737024]Shooting steel at oblique angles [I]never[/I] results in ricochets, it's the preferred form of target shooting for experienced shooters for that reason. It's physically impossible to get a complete reversal, let alone by chance having it strike somebody non-lethally [I]on camera[/I]. If it was a frequent occurrence, frequent enough to cause a freak accident like that, people would not be shooting steel. Overall the chances of it being a hoax are much higher than the chances of the absolute freak occurrence happening in the first place. [editline]22nd May 2013[/editline] Man easily fakes video for fun vs Statistically impossible physical occurrence being captured on camera.[/QUOTE] Yes, because you can clearly see the shape of the target and angle of deflection in that video. You can't just assume everything is the way you think it is and that something didn't happen just because it's highly improbable.

something about seeing the bullet removed was oddly satisfying

[QUOTE=Whitefox08;40735852][video=youtube;0ABGIJwiGBc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc[/video][/QUOTE] That sound the bullet makes as it comes back at him is so cool

There is quite a lot of crazy army stories in Russia. For example, during WW2 my grandfather got shot in the same place twice and couldn't move his pinky because of that. One day he got fed up with this shit and cut the finger off without screaming.

[QUOTE=RosettaStoned;40736706]Its a little arrogant to think that your own common sense is enough to determine whether or not an such event can [i]possibly[/i] happen under [i]any[/i] circumstances.[/QUOTE] Seriously think about what you're saying bud. An object moving that fast can not hit something and then make a 180 degree turn and still maintain enough velocity to travel that distance, bounce off the ground again, and almost kill someone. I apologize if I'm coming off as arrogant or ass hole-ish, but if you don't believe me, go watch the Mythbusters episode on Ricochet bullets.

Ickle bullet is too scared to kill big Russian man.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40736584]Because a bullet moving at 850 meters per second can not hit a solid object and do a 180 degree turn and still maintain enough velocity to almost kill someone. Life isn't a "Austin Powers" movie where you can bounce a bullet off a dozen solid surfaces and it still maintain a velocity high enough to kill somebody. Use some common sense here bud. The round was most likely a 12.7x99mm FMJ, which would most likely be a copper jacketed lead or steel core. Now, when that round hits the iron plate, it is going to shatter and disintegrate because it doesn't maintain enough force to entirely penetrate it. I'm not an expert in physics nor do I have a degree in anything related to it, I'm just using common sense here.[/QUOTE] a 180 degree turn isn't a dozen bounces your lack of expertise in physics is showing a bullet has a really tiny amount of momentum and it's easy to readjust it. It has a shitfuckton of kinetic energy, which is NOT DEPENDENT on direction traveled. So, the easiest thing to adjust the direction of would be a small, fast moving object. A soldier's helmet is not a tough material, it is strong, which means it would be able to change the direction of a bullet and take that energy and redirect it without breaking.

What's it with Russians getting shot in the head and living

[QUOTE=Ironic Man;40735789]I'm thinking an under powered charge? If it went through something else it probably would have been more deformed. Or Maybe we're all living in this guy's personal universe where he gets shot in the head and lives.[/QUOTE] where's the smarked rating when you need it

Trust Facepunch to turn a cool news story into a physics argument.

Bullet sponge Strelok is at it again.

[QUOTE=zombini;40735719]unlucky actually, ricochets rarely hit a person. If you wanna hear about a lucky time involving the war over there, one of my brother's squadmates took an AK round to the rim of the inside of his helmet, and did a 180 out the front after riding the inside of that guy's helmet like a rollercoaster. Pulled every muscle in his neck, but he lived. EDIT: I missed the part about it being in Chechnya, i meant Afghanistan in 2010.[/QUOTE] A guy I know who fought in Iraq said the same thing, exact same scenario. Bullet goes in, rides the helmet, goes out. He said it's a pretty common occurrence.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40736584]I'm not an expert in physics nor do I have a degree in anything related to it, I'm just using common sense here.[/QUOTE]I had a .22WMR come back at me from a rock ricochet (dirt embankment, didn't know there was a rock there) traveling a total distance of two hundred feet. It hit the rock dead-on, flattened, and flew back as a lead pancake. I know this because it took out the kitchen window four feet behind me and to my left, imbedding itself in the drywall. I carefully fucking measured that shit, just because it was entirely fucking unbelievable. So, it flew a hundred feet to target, went through, (by this point had flattened, target was wood, bullet was JHP) it traveled through [i]two inches of wet sand that was doing it's best to slow it down[/i], hit a rock, flew [i]another[/i] hundred feet up and over the target back at me, into a window, and was finally stopped by drywall. Fucking terrifying considering I heard it buzz the whole way past my fucking head. So, just because something is implausible doesn't necessarily make it impossible.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;40748867]I had a .22WMR come back at me from a rock ricochet (dirt embankment, didn't know there was a rock there) traveling a total distance of two hundred feet. It hit the rock dead-on, flattened, and flew back as a lead pancake. I know this because it took out the kitchen window four feet behind me and to my left, imbedding itself in the drywall. I carefully fucking measured that shit, just because it was entirely fucking unbelievable. So, it flew a hundred feet to target, went through, (by this point had flattened, target was wood, bullet was JHP) it traveled through [i]two inches of wet sand that was doing it's best to slow it down[/i], hit a rock, flew [i]another[/i] hundred feet up and over the target back at me, into a window, and was finally stopped by drywall. Fucking terrifying considering I heard it buzz the whole way past my fucking head. So, just because something is implausible doesn't necessarily make it impossible.[/QUOTE] That's different than a high velocity, high energy round. A.50BMG like in that rifle has enough energy that the round will flatten out and break into fragments before it can rebound off of a hard surface, in the case 0f a .22 WMR, it's a very light, and only moderately fast round, carrying less total kinetic energy than a 9mm para. Whereas most .50BMG loads have energies on the order of 13K to 15K ft-lbf of energy per round at the muzzle. For comparison, an average .22 WMR has an energy of 300ft-lbf of energy.

[QUOTE=zombini;40749469]That's different than a high velocity, high energy round. A.50BMG like in that rifle has enough energy that the round will flatten out and break into fragments before it can rebound off of a hard surface, in the case 0f a .22 WMR, it's a very light, and only moderately fast round, carrying less total kinetic energy than a 9mm para. Whereas most .50BMG loads have energies on the order of 13K to 15K ft-lbf of energy per round at the muzzle. For comparison, an average .22 WMR has an energy of 300ft-lbf of energy.[/QUOTE]There are three things I have to say: - Several fragments flying all over the place is still rebounding off of a hard object. The amount of energy doesn't matter. - The angle of the hard surface is critical to a ricochet. Mine was not a perfectly vertical surface, allowing the bullet to ricochet upward. The same thing could be said for the .50BMG in the video, but we never see it so we don't know what actually happened down there. The actual material plays a big role in this as well. A completely immobile hard surface will not absorb energy as effectively as one that can flex, wobble, etc. - Multiple fragments carry their own amount of energy. Since a .22WMR has 410 J of energy, an equally sized fragment of a .50BMG (3g) would carry a whopping [i]1187 joules[/i], even dividing that in half (assuming half of the energy was dumped into the hard surface, this isn't likely to be the case) that's still more energy than a .22WMR fired directly. Are you asserting that none of the fragments could possibly be directed back at the shooter?

Russians are badass.

to the current direction this thread has taken: Bullets ricocheting off steel targets are not uncommon. Its unlikely the video is faked. It's why good steel target practice is to discard the target when it becomes heavily pitted/dented, and to angle the plates especially if shooting close range. It should be obvious why steel is not an ideal surface to shoot at in the interest of safety. Its not like its a freak accident, you can find many many reports of people seeing ricochets off steel targets. Now as to whether it was still carrying enough velocity to kill him?? No probably not, but that doesnt mean it still doesnt possess enough velocity to cause soft tissue damage, or knock a pair of earmuffs off your head. I can split your cheek open with my fist with not even half the velocity a bullet would/could travel at. An alarmingly high amount of bank robbers during the 20s and 30s were wounded by their own ricochets.

Just pour a bit of vodka on it I'm sure it will be fine.