[QUOTE=sonicrjk;24121379]Why do people insist on saying this in every fucking thread?[/QUOTE]
Because the titles are too good to be true.
[QUOTE=sonicrjk;24121379]Why do people insist on saying this in every fucking thread?[/QUOTE]
Because its true.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;24116652]Religion: Never change your mind, no matter how much evidence proves you're wrong.[/QUOTE]
what does religion have to do with anything here
Wow, that's a phenomenal discovery.
[QUOTE=Haxxer;24116551]Science is (mostly) built up by facts
[B]History[/B] is mostly build up by theories[/QUOTE]
Not really, no. I assume you know what the scientific method is. First, you question something about the world. Then develop a theory, then set up an experiment to prove your theory, and then either prove or change your theory as you see fit depending on the results.
The thing with science is that [B]a scientific fact isn't something that's consistently proven right, it's something that's never been proven wrong[/B]. Science is constantly changing, and the things about the world we thought we knew based on science are literally ALWAYS evolving. So technically, SCIENCE is built by theories (tested theories).
As for History, I'd honestly say it's built up more by fact. Ignoring the super ancient history, everything from around 9,500 BC (Neolithic era) onward is either well documented or there's enough evidence to draw reasonable conclusions about events that occurred. Hell, we have dinosaur bones and they're evidence of a period on earth that happened [I]80 million years ago[/I].
It's stupid to say History's built on theories, because we KNOW that things happened in history. Unlike several aspects of science, with History, we HAVE EVIDENCE that we can see. We can scan it, take it apart, put it back together, restore it, model stuff after it; we can do whatever we want to it.
So really, you've basically got it backwards. Science is literally built on theories, and history is built on facts.
[QUOTE=Funky Pickle;24117731]Oh boy, here we go...Conservative Christians vs. Angsty Atheists: The Final Showdown.[/QUOTE]
"Well, the important thing is that you've found a way to feel superior to both."
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;24132644][B]a scientific fact isn't something that's consistently proven right, it's something that's never been proven wrong[/B][/QUOTE]This is incorrect.
If this were true, god would be scientifically proven simply because you cannot disprove it.
lol keatinator what the hell
There also was water vapor when the earth was a flaming ball of lava. There was most likely some oxygen and really likely hydrogen that burned into water.
[QUOTE=keatinator;24120248]School never told us how molten lava turned into a living sphere it taught us proper things that would help us in later life. And if you say evolution then please care to explain how it worked. Because I would actually love to know. I've never really understood how it actually works.[/QUOTE]
The thing is we don't know how life began on earth. Yet. Though, evolution might just be it.
Heres an example: There are lifeless proteins on earth, that are capable to make copies out of themselves. They cant make perfect copies thought: mutation and variation always happens. This could lead to a situation where some copies work better than others and the ones with good properties multiply. Mutation after mutation the biological system comes closer to something that resembles a simple cell ect.
When the biological system has its own metabolism, can response to stimuli, can grow, reproduce, and adapt to different environments we can call it a living thing.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;24116696]The highest form of anything an idea in science can become is a theory...not even a fact[/QUOTE]
So "Gravity exists" is not a fact?
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;24132644]Not really, no. I assume you know what the scientific method is. First, you question something about the world. Then develop a theory, then set up an experiment to prove your theory, and then either prove or change your theory as you see fit depending on the results.
The thing with science is that [B]a scientific fact isn't something that's consistently proven right, it's something that's never been proven wrong[/B]. Science is constantly changing, and the things about the world we thought we knew based on science are literally ALWAYS evolving. So technically, SCIENCE is built by theories (tested theories).
As for History, I'd honestly say it's built up more by fact. Ignoring the super ancient history, everything from around 9,500 BC (Neolithic era) onward is either well documented or there's enough evidence to draw reasonable conclusions about events that occurred. Hell, we have dinosaur bones and they're evidence of a period on earth that happened [I]80 million years ago[/I].
It's stupid to say History's built on theories, because we KNOW that things happened in history. Unlike several aspects of science, with History, we HAVE EVIDENCE that we can see. We can scan it, take it apart, put it back together, restore it, model stuff after it; we can do whatever we want to it.
So really, you've basically got it backwards. Science is literally built on theories, and history is built on facts.[/QUOTE]
Most high school history books are filled with bullshit fiction.
[QUOTE=keatinator;24119989]Yeah but how? Would some care to explain to me with proper detail on how it changed from a lava ball to this?[/QUOTE]
Being in space for a few billion years does that. Eventually the rock cooled, and it was just a bombarded planetoid. Now, the planet had enough mass to keep gases within the immediate vicinity of it in it's orbit(and we're talking lots of gases, this was when the solar system was brand new). Eventually, these gases balanced out, vapors formed and the first rains began, forming oceans. Oxygen and carbon dioxide began to become further prevalent, then life took on from there, as increasingly more complex molecules formed underneath the new ocean in the rarefied atmosphere, and eventually became microbes. And thus, is evolution, the formation of Earth and disproving all that mumbo jumbo those religious maniacs call facts.
Goddamn here I was hoping this was a piece of earth that was flung off when the other planet suckerpunched us and created the moon.
(I am quite serious about this. I’m not angry nor do I disrespect geology. In fact I’m saying geology is the key science that may and must now open the door to all of science’s future this century, and it’s a damn shame. Geology doesn’t take its responsibility seriously.)
If there was a time, friend geologist, to challenge me, this is the time. Perhaps the last time before I publicly challenge the last 40 years of wrong geological theory before it‘s built up again. My main target:
There is no subduction. No plates subduct. Subduction is unscientific and untrue, the ramifications of which are world shaking. And… the Earth grows! (You may have heard this before, so I caution you. This is not your father’s Earth expanding theory.) Earth is growing, not expanding, and therein lies the past-error who's answer lies in physics and not geology. Still here we mainly talk geology.
You think Earth growing is silly, but you have been taught to think that. Suppose you learned it the other way? Suppose it’s you who have been fed wrong thinking and swallowed it hook, line and stinker. Suppose YOU’VE been convinced of something you will soon laugh at! You believe the Earth eats its own crust and it has been devoured and is magically gone! At least 3/4’s of the surface coating is gone. Doesn’t that, on the face of it, seem odd? It is odd you know. 5 billion years ago this granitic mostly melted coating covered the Earth, correct?
Well the, HOW is the Earth growing?
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eek, he's banned
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