Reuters: Google to sell second-gen Nexus 7 tablet from July - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Period;40149226]Anyone who recently bought a Nexus 7 is fuming right now.[/QUOTE] I'll say

I bought my Nexus 7 about two months ago, but I'm not mad. I'm actually glad, because I'm hopeful we'll get 4.3/5.0 along with it.

Maybe they'll give us a fucking MicroSD slot this time, instead of charging idiotic premiums for completely arbitrary amounts of internal storage. I was excited about the first Nexus 7, but the lack of expandable storage was a complete dealbreaker for me, and they were going down the Apple route of charging an insane per-gigabyte price for more storage.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;40164550]Maybe they'll give us a fucking MicroSD slot this time, instead of charging idiotic premiums for completely arbitrary amounts of internal storage. I was excited about the first Nexus 7, but the lack of expandable storage was a complete dealbreaker for me, and they were going down the Apple route of charging an insane per-gigabyte price for more storage.[/QUOTE] Google has made it very clear since the Galaxy Nexus release they will not be adding an SD card to their devices. Ever.

[QUOTE=Demache;40189145]Google has made it very clear since the Galaxy Nexus release they will not be adding an SD card to their devices. Ever.[/QUOTE] Still don't understand why this is the case.

I'll absolutely buy this. My Nexus 7 fell out of my inside coat pocket a long time ago and shattered, I've been meaning to replace it.

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;40155000]I don't think you have ever used a Nexus S on AOSP then. The launcher stutters, the web browser stutters, the lock screen stutters. And it has a wonderful habit of completely and utterly locking up, gotta love lagdroid multitasking, what a silly idea for an underpowered ARM device.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/[/url] Used a ROM with this before, guess what, it didn't lag omg gasp

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;40164550]Maybe they'll give us a fucking MicroSD slot this time, instead of charging idiotic premiums for completely arbitrary amounts of internal storage. I was excited about the first Nexus 7, but the lack of expandable storage was a complete dealbreaker for me, and they were going down the Apple route of charging an insane per-gigabyte price for more storage.[/QUOTE] The Nexus 4 isn't even a remote consideration for me because of the lack of expandable storage I'm not in the market for a tablet but if I was the entire Nexus line would be off the table A shame how Google is fucking up their flagship devices with boneheaded hardware choices

if there was 128GB of internal storage i wouldnt care about the lack of a sd card slot but 32? no thanksss

[t]http://www.imgur.com/Wr2zS0e.png[/t] I love expandable storage

[QUOTE=Period;40149226]Anyone who recently bought a Nexus 7 is fuming right now.[/QUOTE] got mine around xmas, from a charity, and its white even though they sent me the wrong model, im not mad in the least bit, cas its white, and speacial [editline]6th April 2013[/editline] though an SD card slot would be awsome, and it would make the tablet all the more awsomer

I'm late to this, but... [QUOTE=FlubberNugget;40153335]Nexus 7.1, 8 etc,[/QUOTE] That wouldn't work because the Nexus naming system is respective to the devices' screen sizes.

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;40189835]if there was 128GB of internal storage i wouldnt care about the lack of a sd card slot but 32? no thanksss[/QUOTE] Especially on tablets You could feasibly replace your PC with a tablet if you didn't care about hardcore gaming AND the tablet had lots of storage

Personally I've been able to get by just fine on 16 GB. All I used it for was for reading books and news articles and streaming from YouTube. I occasionally had a movie or two but I've never been hurting for space.

[QUOTE=The freeman;40189261]Still don't understand why this is the case.[/QUOTE] I think a lot of it is Google wanting to push people into it's cloud storage and streaming systems instead of giving them the space to store content they own on the device. The cheapest Nexus 7 can't even hold half of my music collection, let alone any movies I might want to watch on a plane or something. In my book that makes it almost worthless. Flash memory is so cheap that 8gb in any tablet is obscenely low, let alone 8gb without an expandable microSD slot. Google's automatic response to any criticism is "Well, try our new Google Drive!" so it's pretty damn obvious what is going on here.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;40198268]I think a lot of it is Google wanting to push people into it's cloud storage and streaming systems instead of giving them the space to store content they own on the device. The cheapest Nexus 7 can't even hold half of my music collection, let alone any movies I might want to watch on a plane or something. In my book that makes it almost worthless. Flash memory is so cheap that 8gb in any tablet is obscenely low, let alone 8gb without an expandable microSD slot. Google's automatic response to any criticism is "Well, try our new Google Drive!" so it's pretty damn obvious what is going on here.[/QUOTE] While it's true that it'd be nice of them to include more space and a SD slot, I really don't think it's a problem; do people really fire up a playlist of their entire 15,000 song library and put it on shuffle without skipping a single song? Just keep the ones you actually listen to, copy on TV shows/movies for long trips and delete them after you've seen them, replacing them with new ones, etc. For example, for two 6-hour flights (round trip), you might want to bring 6 movies (assuming 2 hours each), which are about 700 MB when properly compressed. That's 4.2 GB. Add 300 songs on top of that and you're at about 6 GB. If you can get a connection and it's available where you live, why not use google products? You get infinite photo and video storage on google+ albums, and 20,000 songs on google music, although you could stitch entire albums into individual files and have 20,000 albums instead, all for free.

[QUOTE=mblunk;40198570]While it's true that it'd be nice of them to include more space and a SD slot, I really don't think it's a problem; do people really fire up a playlist of their entire 15,000 song library and put it on shuffle without skipping a single song? Just keep the ones you actually listen to, copy on TV shows/movies for long trips and delete them after you've seen them, replacing them with new ones, etc. For example, for two 6-hour flights (round trip), you might want to bring 6 movies (assuming 2 hours each), which are about 700 MB when properly compressed. That's 4.2 GB. Add 300 songs on top of that and you're at about 6 GB. If you can get a connection and it's available where you live, why not use google products? You get infinite photo and video storage on google+ albums, and 20,000 songs on google music, although you could stitch entire albums into individual files and have 20,000 albums instead, all for free.[/QUOTE] You sound like an ad for Google. "It's not a problem because of these services we offer!" My point is that storage is cheap, and there's no reason NOT to include it on a tablet made in 2013, unless you're deliberately restricting storage to push people to use your cloud services. Yes, the service may be nice, but that's no excuse for withholding good old-fashioned storage. I want my whole music collection on my phone or tablet because I CAN, and I don't think I should have to compromise that because Google wants me to use cloud storage.

[QUOTE=mblunk;40198570]While it's true that it'd be nice of them to include more space and a SD slot, I really don't think it's a problem; do people really fire up a playlist of their entire 15,000 song library and put it on shuffle without skipping a single song? Just keep the ones you actually listen to, copy on TV shows/movies for long trips and delete them after you've seen them, replacing them with new ones, etc. For example, for two 6-hour flights (round trip), you might want to bring 6 movies (assuming 2 hours each), which are about 700 MB when properly compressed. That's 4.2 GB. Add 300 songs on top of that and you're at about 6 GB. If you can get a connection and it's available where you live, why not use google products? You get infinite photo and video storage on google+ albums, and 20,000 songs on google music, although you could stitch entire albums into individual files and have 20,000 albums instead, all for free.[/QUOTE] Having cloud services available free or not is really no excuse for on board storage. There's really shitty service in one of the 2 areas I'm frequently in (ie might be an hour before you get a text message after it's sent) and data can be really expensive depending on your plan. 32GB SD cards can be around $30 retail so it's fucking bizarre to me why phones have anything less than that in memory when they can cost hundreds of dollars (my galaxy nexus included, it came with 16 although there's 32GB versions).

[QUOTE=Elspin;40199805]Having cloud services available free or not is really no excuse for on board storage. There's really shitty service in one of the 2 areas I'm frequently in (ie might be an hour before you get a text message after it's sent) and data can be really expensive depending on your plan. 32GB SD cards can be around $30 retail so it's fucking bizarre to me why phones have anything less than that in memory when they can cost hundreds of dollars (my galaxy nexus included, it came with 16 although there's 32GB versions).[/QUOTE] Actually the Galaxy Nexus was only 32GB on Verizon. And I totally agree. Especially in the case of a tablet where most of them are WiFi only. Yes there's lots of WiFi around, but not enough to run everything off of cloud storage, not even close.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;40199376]You sound like an ad for Google. "It's not a problem because of these services we offer!" My point is that storage is cheap, and there's no reason NOT to include it on a tablet made in 2013, unless you're deliberately restricting storage to push people to use your cloud services. Yes, the service may be nice, but that's no excuse for withholding good old-fashioned storage. I want my whole music collection on my phone or tablet because I CAN, and I don't think I should have to compromise that because Google wants me to use cloud storage.[/QUOTE] I agree, they could add it, I'm just saying it doesn't make the things "worthless." Maybe I'm just optimistic because I'm in a situation where using the google services works perfectly for me.

google hates expandable storage because if your android device has more than one pool of storage then you get problems of what goes where. when you do almost anything you have to tell your device where you want your shit to go.

[QUOTE=meppers;40199909]google hates expandable storage because if your android device has more than one pool of storage then you get problems of what goes where. when you do almost anything you have to tell your device where you want your shit to go.[/QUOTE] While that's probably their excuse for trying to get us dependant on their cloud services, it's very true. I've broken phones before due to confusing naming schemes that mix up the sdcard and internal storage.

[QUOTE=meppers;40199909]google hates expandable storage because if your android device has more than one pool of storage then you get problems of what goes where. when you do almost anything you have to tell your device where you want your shit to go.[/QUOTE] Maybe they should make their OS handle it better then

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;40198268]I think a lot of it is Google wanting to push people into it's cloud storage and streaming systems instead of giving them the space to store content they own on the device. The cheapest Nexus 7 can't even hold half of my music collection, let alone any movies I might want to watch on a plane or something. In my book that makes it almost worthless. Flash memory is so cheap that 8gb in any tablet is obscenely low, let alone 8gb without an expandable microSD slot. Google's automatic response to any criticism is "Well, try our new Google Drive!" so it's pretty damn obvious what is going on here.[/QUOTE] It's worse with the chromebook. Pretty sure you can only use google drive for space and you only get like 50gb for a year until they take it away and you have to pay for more space.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40200019]Maybe they should make their OS handle it better then[/QUOTE] But that would make sense.

I will big picking this up as I left my old Nexus 7 on a bus somewhere...