Woman shot in the head after knocking on door and asking for help - Polidicks

[QUOTE=NoDachi;42791017]I just find your blase and callous attitude towards suicide ignorant and offensive. Sorry if I come across as vindictive~ its just a personal issue.[/QUOTE] Ignorant? I'm sorry that I believe people should have the freedom to do as they please with their life? I also gladly support the legalization of prostitution and drugs. Government should be about giving people freedom and providing the means to have things like prostitution and drugs safely. To be able to non-painfully take your own life if you feel you do not wish to live anymore. If that's ignorance than I'd rather be the dumbest human being alive than be in favour of a totalitarian dystopia.

[QUOTE=J!NX;42791057]Suicide is painless when you have a gun and so is killing other people, you just point, click, and they're dead, its so easy. And that is why guns are a threat to life. They have been specifically made for killing anything in front of its barrel. For someone that wants to kill someone using a gun would be totally logical. Like I said, point, click, dead, done. I feel it will easily encourage people to kill others because of that fact. Gun's won't MAKE crazy people crazy, but it sure helps them kill people.[/QUOTE] remember that 10% of those who try to kill themselves with a firearm still survive. Often with horrific injuries and brain damage.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;42791082]remember that 10% of those who try to kill themselves with a firearm still survive. Often with horrific injuries and brain damage.[/QUOTE] Holy shit, source? :v: not to denounce you, but I'd never expect to survive that :v: But still, like I said, it's simple, unless you're some kind of thick headed courier or something you'll die.

[QUOTE=J!NX;42791109]Holy shit, source? :v: not to denounce you, but I'd never expect to survive that :v: But still, like I said, it's simple, unless you're some kind of thick headed courier or something you'll die.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_index.php?idx=119&d=1&w=5&e=28649[/url] [editline]7th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=draugur;42791069]Ignorant? I'm sorry that I believe people should have the freedom to do as they please with their life? I also gladly support the legalization of prostitution and drugs. Government should be about giving people freedom and providing the means to have things like prostitution and drugs safely. To be able to non-painfully take your own life if you feel you do not wish to live anymore. If that's ignorance than I'd rather be the dumbest human being alive than be in favour of a totalitarian dystopia.[/QUOTE] Amazing. You rather have emotionally distressed teenagers shoot themselves in the head over issues which they can get help for and overcome and you wonder why I think you're ignorant on the subject? Firearm ownership is not a credible alternative to euthanasia and I'm amazed you're trying to argue that.

[QUOTE=J!NX;42791109]Holy shit, source? :v: not to denounce you, but I'd never expect to survive that :v: But still, like I said, it's simple, unless you're some kind of thick headed courier or something you'll die.[/QUOTE] Whilst suicide by gun is a lot more successful, if it does fail it is horrendous, and failure is as easy as not having a steady enough hand, not know where to shoot, or just bad luck from the bullet exiting before it does real damage (or failing to exit at all and lodging in place leaving no exit would to bleed from). Hanging, cutting, overdosing, etc. are a lot easier to do incorrectly and just severely injure yourself with mind.

When it comes to gun ownership I'd rather have one and not need it than need one and not have it.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;42791191]When it comes to gun ownership I'd rather have one and not need it than need one and not have it.[/QUOTE] The guy in the story thought he needed one too.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;42791191]When it comes to gun ownership I'd rather have one and not need it than need one and not have it.[/QUOTE] Ahh yes, excellent point Watson. I guess that's it guys, we can all just pack up and go home.

Makes sense to me, random frantic black lady on my porch at 2 am, chances are shes going to try to trick you or some shit with other people hiding, get the fuck off others property idiot, its called TRESPASSING @ 2 am

[QUOTE=J!NX;42791057] Gun's won't MAKE crazy people crazy, but it sure helps them kill people.[/QUOTE] Alot of people would like to be able to shoot these "crazy people" with guns if they ever put them in danger.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;42791210]The guy in the story thought he needed one too.[/QUOTE] He also thought he needed to shoot her in the back of the head, unlike the rest of us. What's your point?

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42791239]Alot of people would like to be able to shoot these "crazy people" with guns if they ever put them in danger.[/QUOTE] So what do you propose to prevent the crazy people completely from even handling a firearm?

[QUOTE=tryhard;42791228]Makes sense to me, random frantic black lady on my porch at 2 am, chances are shes going to try to trick you or some shit with other people hiding, get the fuck off others property idiot, its called TRESPASSING @ 2 am[/QUOTE] What the fuck is wrong with you?

[QUOTE=draugur;42791069]Ignorant? I'm sorry that I believe people should have the freedom to do as they please with their life? I also gladly support the legalization of prostitution and drugs. Government should be about giving people freedom and providing the means to have things like prostitution and drugs safely. To be able to non-painfully take your own life if you feel you do not wish to live anymore. If that's ignorance than I'd rather be the dumbest human being alive than be in favour of a totalitarian dystopia.[/QUOTE] Giving the people the means to kill themselves without hesitation is dangerous. As we've said, guns make the decision much more "I feel like killing myself, where's the gun?", instead of giving them a chance to contemplate why they are thinking of doing so. It's not selfish to restrict this "right" to instant suicide, it's selfish to allow it to be a thing.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;42791279]He also thought he needed to shoot her in the back of the head.[/QUOTE] ~that is the point~

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;42791191]When it comes to gun ownership I'd rather have one and not need it than need one and not have it.[/QUOTE] Seriously, give me a situation where you "need" a gun? Try me.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;42791334]Seriously, give me a situation where you "need" a gun? Try me.[/QUOTE] A guy breaks into your house with a knife.

Every single time I enter a thread where someone was injured/murdered by a gun, Facepunch has a shitfit and goes "NUUUHHHH GUNS R BAD" and it's really annoying. I was hoping to see something other than a gun debate for once.

[QUOTE=D-Roy;42791383]Every single time I enter a thread where someone was injured/murdered by a gun, Facepunch has a shitfit and goes "NUUUHHHH GUNS R BAD" and it's really annoying. I was hoping to see something other than a gun debate for once.[/QUOTE] I agree, lets talk about modern art my good comrade.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;42791304]What the fuck is wrong with you?[/QUOTE] Yes, my post hurts feelings, BUT ITS 100% TRUE and black women commit crimes at much higher rates then any other race, sorry to burst your comfy reality bubble, I woulda shot this bitch too, get the fuck off my property at 2 am

[QUOTE=D-Roy;42791383]Every single time I enter a thread where someone was injured/murdered by a gun, Facepunch has a shitfit and goes "NUUUHHHH GUNS R BAD" and it's really annoying. I was hoping to see something other than a gun debate for once.[/QUOTE] People [I]DISCUSSING [/I]something related to the news article? Those heathenly fiends.

[QUOTE=tryhard;42791414]Yes, my post hurts feelings, BUT ITS 100% TRUE and black women commit crimes at much higher rates then any other race, sorry to burst your comfy reality bubble, I woulda shot this bitch too, get the fuck off my property at 2 am[/QUOTE] This can't be real.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;42791354]A guy breaks into your house with a knife.[/QUOTE] What's his intention? If it's burglary, just avoid fucking about too much with him, if you know you can't get the drop on him and subdue him, let him take shit and get it replaced on your insurance. Stuff isn't worth a life, and he'll likely get caught giving you a chance at getting shit back. If it's a purposefully violent encounter, he has a knife. Keep your distance, find other long reach objects and try and subdue him. Try and get him somewhere he's harmless (locked in a room perhaps?). For both situations, call the local police force ASAP and let them deal with it as best they can. If they don't turn up for 30 minutes, stop living in the third world. During that time, try anything to keep them from harming you (or let them then sue the shit out of them I guess). I'm not seeing a need for a gun here. Wait, hold on, he's a criminal, clearly not human any more, fuck it just kill him!

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;42791354]A guy breaks into your house with a knife.[/QUOTE] Lead pipe Because in case you miss, you don't have a stray bullet that could embed itself into another person. Or pepper spray. Heck, even a small fire extinguisher would work better than a gun, limiting the perps visibility and also make it harder for them to breathe.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;42791426]This can't be real.[/QUOTE] How did this guy not have the right to defend his property if this lady was banging on his door at 2 am, give me a logical complete answer if you can, but you cant, you just say omgomgomg so wrong [QUOTE=person11;42785951] This already happened with one guy that nobody would help because they thought he was a burglar. When the cops showed up, he ran towards them, desperate for some kind of help or ride home. No warning. They just shot him dead.[/QUOTE] LOL run towards cops at night time out from the shadows...... Fucking idiots, what did you think would happen?

[QUOTE=tryhard;42791479]How did this guy not have the right to defend his property if this lady was banging on his door at 2 am, give me a logical complete answer if you can, but you cant, you just say omgomgomg so wrong[/QUOTE] Because she was just banging on his door? She wasn't intruding, she wasn't posing a threat. She was shot in the back of the head indicating she was turned around, which sounds a lot like someone walking the fuck away you psychopath.

[QUOTE=Van-man;42791458]Lead pipe Because in case you miss, you don't have a stray bullet that could embed itself into another person. Or pepper spray. Heck, even a small fire extinguisher would work better than a gun, limiting the perps visibility and also make it harder for them to breathe.[/QUOTE] WHAT IF YOU ARE DISABLED AND IN A WHEELCHAIR, you lose. [QUOTE=hexpunK;42791497]Because she was just banging on his door? She wasn't intruding, she wasn't posing a threat. She was shot in the back of the head indicating she was turned around, which sounds a lot like someone walking the fuck away you psychopath.[/QUOTE] Any proof of this shot to the head? THe article does not confirm it, how about PROOF OF THE SHIT WE IMPRISON PEOPLE FOR?!

[QUOTE=tryhard;42791479]LOL run towards cops at night time out from the shadows...... Fucking idiots, what did you think would happen?[/QUOTE] That they wouldn't get fucking killed by those meant to protect them? If they were running towards them shouting for help the cops fucked up. If he wasn't shouting the cops still fucked up by assuming he wants to injure them and not issuing a warning. Christ, you really are fucked up aren't you? [editline]7th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=tryhard;42791501]WHAT IF YOU ARE DISABLED AND IN A WHEELCHAIR, you lose. Any proof of this shot to the head? THe article does not confirm it, how about PROOF OF THE SHIT WE IMPRISON PEOPLE FOR?![/QUOTE] Fuck this you have to be trolling.

Guns save people everyday, if they tried to sting you sheep along to believe they are good you would follow that too. The stories where guns SAVE lives are burried while these are carried.

[QUOTE=tryhard;42791479]How did this guy not have the right to defend his property if this lady was banging on his door at 2 am, give me a logical complete answer if you can, but you cant, you just say omgomgomg so wrong [/QUOTE] i don't understand, are you not supposed to be able to get help when you need it? we already know she didn't have bad intentions, infact she was shot as she was leaving the property. i honestly can't understand how anybody could condone these actions.