Valve removes Seduce Me from Steam Greenlight for “offensive material” - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Swilly;37567342]Oh dear god, the constant removal and reinstalling of it. IT WOULD CRASH THE VALVE SERVERS.[/QUOTE] But it would still be visible... People would just make second account for porn.

I don't see a problem with this, I understand that Greenlight is a system to let the community decide but at the end of the day Valve still has to decide if it is appropriate for their service.

Games centered around adult contents would be fine to have on Steam [B][I]if they were actually good games[/I][/B]. Dating simulators are boring as shit gameplay-mechanic-wise, however. It's all just a convoluted way of clicking yourself to spanking material.

[QUOTE=acds;37567164]Steam defense brigade arriving in 3...2...1... Was it any other company everyone would go ape, but being Valve it's understandable and ok. Just watch. Also: Postal 2 is still on Greenlight, I don't need to add anything do I?[/QUOTE] It's just a copout excuse to take a sex game off greenlight. [editline]6th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=fruxodaily;37567321]I don't see how nudity is more offensive than gore to be honest, though I am not really into sex video games they're just cheesy as hell.[/QUOTE] There are games with nudity in Steam (GTA IV the lost and damned has a penis in it, you can walk around naked in both saints row 2 and 3, etc), but they are not explicit sex games. Steam is just not the place for that sort of stuff. [editline]6th September 2012[/editline] I really don't get why all of this is an issue, this is a sex game (dating games are about screwing other people, hello ? plus this one gets really explicit as shown before) and steam doesn't want sex games on their platform.

[QUOTE=Mingebox;37567305]What are you yammering on about? Almost every distributor or seller of games stays away from the AO stuff.[/QUOTE] Except steam. The store sells manhunt 2.

[QUOTE=DinoJesus;37567617]Except steam. The store sells manhunt 2.[/QUOTE] I only see Manhunt 1

Looks like a rather boring game to be honest. As if it was made by a 13 y old who doesn't talks about anything other than lying saying he already had sex and calling anyone else who hasn't a faggot and how he also did their moms.

[QUOTE=acds;37567164]Steam defense brigade arriving in 3...2...1... Was it any other company everyone would go ape, but being Valve it's understandable and ok. Just watch. Also: Postal 2 is still on Greenlight, I don't need to add anything do I?[/QUOTE] implying that Steam is a distribution platform for porn

[QUOTE=DeEz;37567847]implying that Steam is a distribution platform for porn[/QUOTE] It could be, and it would be fucking profitable for valve.

I don't understand how some people attempt to justify this with something along the lines of "eh, looks bland and boring anyway" - that's not a valid reason to take it off Greenlight and not Valve's reason either. [QUOTE=Ericson666;37567302]But think, would you want anyone to know you spent money on this?[/QUOTE] Not the point of this either. Some people would probably fine with it. Maybe not, who knows. There's plenty of trash on Greenlight, but it's the community's job to pass judgment. [QUOTE=LoLWaT?;37567360]America is great isn't it? :v:[/QUOTE] I think it's more of a game culture thing than an American culture phenomenon, tho the gun cult over there has led to plenty of Hardboiled games and FPS that shape the Western industry quite a bit. Violence in general seems to be more accepted than sexual topics, no matter how immaturely either of them is handled. Doesn't mean you have to support that trend tho. If anything, encourage games of that kind any maybe someone will actually raise some sort of quality bar. Does Greenlight allow its uploaders to put their stuff in an 18+ category or something? Because I think they're gonna need it sooner or later anyway.

I don't see it getting greenlighted anyway.

There is no arguable reason to keep this on Greenlight anyway.

[QUOTE=Chernarus;37567892]It could be, and it would be fucking profitable for valve.[/QUOTE] I think valve has better standards :v:

[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;37567482]The problem is that nowadays it'd be easy for any 10 year old to get their mom's credit card and purchase a game like this on an account where they claimed they were older than 18. (I first played Half-Life 1 when I was 4 and made my Steam account when I was 7; but I still turned out somewhat okay. :v:) If Valve [I]didn't[/I] do this I can't even begin to imagine the world of shit they'd be in.[/QUOTE] it's the parent's fault for letting them steal it in the first place

I don't think Valve sells any explicitly pornographic games on Steam anyway. Companies that make pornographic games have a hard time distributing them anyway, since it'll instantly get slapped on a AO rating by the ESRB (At least in America only) which makes it nigh-impossible for them to be found on big retailers, case in point, when GTA San Andreas briefly got a AO rating because of the "Hot Coffee" controversy, Gamestop announced they would stop selling the game on their store, even though they had already sold it for well over 3 million copies lol. I also think Valve is merely setting a precedent to avoid explicitly pornographic material on Steam. It drives business deals away, and it's bound to generate a media shitstorm in America.

[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;37567482]The problem is that nowadays it'd be easy for any 10 year old to get their mom's credit card and purchase a game like this on an account where they claimed they were older than 18. (I first played Half-Life 1 when I was 4 and made my Steam account when I was 7; but I still turned out somewhat okay. :v:) If Valve [I]didn't[/I] do this I can't even begin to imagine the world of shit they'd be in.[/QUOTE] On a legal standpoint Valve would probably have a lot of things to change if they started selling porn games. Changes that would not be very profitable to them. [editline]6th September 2012[/editline] The only game I can think of that was widely distributed without an AO rating and still had a lot of nudity in it is Dante's Inferno. Pretty much everyone in this game is naked, you see bouncing tits everywhere and Satan just struts around fully naked with a dick the size of a baseball bat shaking around, all jiggle-boned.

It gets released on origin... before you know it... Seduce me: Furry edition DLC for only 20$! the perfect game for a really fucking scary lets play

Maybe Valve doesn't feel like getting in the business of giving people boners and jerk-off material.

[QUOTE=RaxaHax;37568331]Maybe Valve doesn't feel like getting in the business of giving people boners and jerk-off material.[/QUOTE] Implying thats a bad thing?

[QUOTE=RichyZ;37567749]lets play a fun game, [B]lets try to find[/B] a digital distrib that sells [B]manhunt 2[/B] or find a [B]pirated copy[/B] [sp]you can't[/sp][/QUOTE] It took me 20 seconds.

[QUOTE=Youtube Comment]Rene Descartes: The Video Game[/QUOTE] :v:

I could understand if Steam maybe made such games not show up in the front page lists so you'd have to specifically search for them. But they shouldn't just flat out deny them like that. If it is a game people think should be on Steam then it should be on Steam. And as others have said, there's some pretty violent games on Steam. This is no more explicit than those just in a different way. [QUOTE=Wii60;37567275]i personally don't want sex/dating games on steam or any downloadable service but ok[/QUOTE] Well uh... You're not being forced to buy them if they're released on Steam are you? Just ignore them if you dislike them. Probably a bad analogy but it's like someone not liking abortion and thinking no one should be able to have one when abortions being allowed doesn't harm them in any way.

[QUOTE=Onyx3173;37568518]I could understand if Steam maybe made such games not show up in the front page lists so you'd have to specifically search for them. But they shouldn't just flat out deny them like that. If it is a game people think should be on Steam then it should be on Steam. And as others have said, there's some pretty violent games on Steam. This is no more explicit than those just in a different way. Well uh... You're not being forced to buy them if they're released on Steam are you? Just ignore them if you dislike them. Probably a bad analogy but it's like someone not liking abortion and thinking no one should be able to have one when abortions being allowed doesn't harm them in any way.[/QUOTE] don't try to compare abortions to porn games

[QUOTE=DeEz;37568550]don't try to compare abortions to porn games[/QUOTE] Try reading the underlying reasoning for the comparison. The underlying point is that if you don't agree with something that doesn't mean no one else should be able to do it. Which is exactly what Wii60 was implying with his post.

..Yet they're still getting second life on Steam.

[QUOTE=HetsuProcyon;37568666]..Yet they're still getting second life on Steam.[/QUOTE] that's pretty different though.

If it shouldn't be banned for being X rated, then it could still easily be banned for being of beyond sub-par quality.

[QUOTE=Van-man;37568769]If it shouldn't be banned for being X rated, then it could still easily be banned for being of beyond sub-par quality.[/QUOTE] greenlight is about popularity not quality

[QUOTE=HetsuProcyon;37568666]..Yet they're still getting second life on Steam.[/QUOTE] second life is, in theory, not supposed to be pornographic it's just that when you put a bunch of creepy people on one game world where you can make anything and anything you're gonna get horrifying furry sex add-ons and flying dildos on the other hand, Seduce Me is a game in which you seduce women and bone their brains out

I'm not sure if I agree with this. They have far more offensive games on steam. Sexual content is offensive to some, so they can just put it in a special hidden section of the steam store. Problem solved. [QUOTE=Mingebox;37567305]What are you yammering on about? Almost every distributor or seller of games stays away from the AO stuff.[/QUOTE] Not the apple appstore.