Valve removes Seduce Me from Steam Greenlight for “offensive material”
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[QUOTE=thisispain;37574245]yeah you should leave that to the creative people
and GTA is probably the crux between telling a mature story and letting you blow everything up.
before it was okay with just parodying and aping movies, but with GTAIV it tried telling a mature story, which didn't work at all because the mature story was undercut by you blowing up stuff, rewarding you for killing people while the story was trying to make killing seem like a fundamentally bad thing.
the notion of "fun" as we know it for videogames is still stuck in an infantile stage, thus it markets itself to children and teenagers.
if GTA found a way to create an interesting narrative that works with its gameplay application then yeah sitting through a court case would be "fun", just like movies centered around court cases can be "fun".[/QUOTE]
I LOVED how GTA IV portrayed the 'American dream', honestly it was genius. I'm with you on the mature story part it was really awesome
[QUOTE=jakedog;37574263]I LOVED how GTA IV portrayed the American dream, honestly it was genious.[/QUOTE]
yeah but what did it mean?
in the end everyone dies and you're given a choice that didn't really do anything to change the game besides give it a different ending cutscene.
the story-writers behind GTA IV obviously picked up a lot from The Soprano's but the difference was that the Soprano's dealt with some heavy important shit. The Soprano's dealt with aging, the difference between self-determination and destiny, gender roles, and the spreading of violence.
all of this was pretty much absent from GTA IV, where the characters come and go based on what the story lines tells them and the only emotional attachment comes from them being funny or useful.
Agh see i haven't played all of the way through, in the beginning it's portrayed pretty well though.
[QUOTE=Chernarus;37573222]Its actually very amusing watching these arguments play out from a third person view.[/QUOTE]
one in every thread
should be renamed to LMAO arguments section
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;37567482]The problem is that nowadays it'd be easy for any 10 year old to get their mom's credit card and purchase a game like this on an account where they claimed they were older than 18.
(I first played Half-Life 1 when I was 4 and made my Steam account when I was 7; but I still turned out somewhat okay. :v:)
If Valve [I]didn't[/I] do this I can't even begin to imagine the world of shit they'd be in.[/QUOTE]
any 10 year old can go on a free porn site without stealing a credit card, and see much worse shit
[QUOTE=smurfy;37567015]A little too steamy for them[/QUOTE]
I have never seen so many zings before, wow.
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;37569021]Doesn't longevity play a factor in being removed as well? There's no replayable factor such as scoreboards, multiplayer, and randomly generated objects.[/QUOTE]
Following that logic, linear games have no place at all on Steam, including the Portals and HL2. Once you know all the Portal puzzles and beateverything, no replay value, right?
Either way that's not the reason Valve stated: "offensive material".
[QUOTE=dgg;37569581]Funny how people here claim that "Since there are games with gore in them, porn should be ok too".
It's a completely different form of entertainment. Maturity has nothing to do with it.
The gore games you play to have fun, dick around, play with your friends.
The porn games you play to wank off, having a good time and nothing else.
Steam sells games, not porn. If you want porn there are other places to get it.[/QUOTE]
It's entertainment either way. Spec Ops The Line isn't fun at all for example, it's not for dicking around, and the multiplayer is completely out of place and barely anyone gets it for that. There's plenty of games you just have a good time with and then forget about it. It's just a different kind entertainment, different kinds of games. Gorn and porn is immature either way, it just gets the tag because it might have ill effects on the development of younger people.
This thing is still a game, not [i]just[/i] porn, and thus qualifies for gaming distribution platforms. I mean in a practical sense it's up to Steam anyway, but that's beside the point.
[QUOTE=acds;37567164]Steam defense brigade arriving in 3...2...1...
Was it any other company everyone would go ape, but being Valve it's understandable and ok. Just watch.
Also: Postal 2 is still on Greenlight, I don't need to add anything do I?[/QUOTE]
I've noticed this forum is extremely biased when Steam is involved and if you say something like this, you just get rated dumb :L. Its just something you have to get used to.
Why is there even a debate here? Valve states in Greenlight's conditions that porn isn't allowed so they remove it. They can decide what kind of games they don't want to sell without justifying it. Steam is a store for non-porn games. If you want porn, you'll have to go somewhere else.
You won't go to a DVD store and complain about the lack of porn, because they aren't required to sell it. If they don't think it's appropriate or good for their image to sell porn they won't.
If you're going to tackle something like dating or sexual content, at least do it properly.
Dating games are basically circlejerk fantasies that require the same amount of thinking as say, Call of Duty does.
[QUOTE=FuzzyPoop;37573242]Whoa, haha, yeah! look at this idiot! by repeatedly trying to diminish him i'll prove that he's wrong![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FuzzyPoop;37572741]"Offensive as a teddy bear"... that's a good thing actually, it means i'm... moderate ? right ? i didn't insult you yet, it has to be a good thing.[/QUOTE]
you know you're dot-nosed if you can't even realize I was directly insulting your intelligence...
Now stop playing victim please. You should've known that the more you posted the more people would've been edged into replying.
[QUOTE=thisispain;37574113]many videogames are problematic
it's the reason why it's an immature medium. games never deal with the thousands of people you mow down during a story-line, nor do they deal with the consequence of their gameplay.[/QUOTE]
Many video games can be very violent and immature, I love many normal games like fallout 3, stalker, bioshock, HL, Alan wake, Serious Sam, Postal
and I'll admit I loved Postal 2, as a KID!, I even played Postal 3 and was refreshed. They both are full of "Up its own ass, immature humor", and unlike the immature humor in the Sarah Silverman Program it doesn't actually have a point, but I like it because I act maturely with it and don't try and piss on people and shoot cats out of m16s
[QUOTE=Swilly;37575640]If you're going to tackle something like dating or sexual content, at least do it properly.
Dating games are basically circlejerk fantasies that require the same amount of thinking as say, Call of Duty does.[/QUOTE]
actually it needs more
use free hand to click buttons
if you have a macro clicker you probably jerk everyone off like flash
Fucks sake. Why does my popular thread thing keep saying that old threads have been posted in about an hour ago.
I don't care either way. If there was a better way to moderate games online (who can buy them / get permission from parents) then this wouldn't be an issue.
Oh shit. This is an old thread. Fuck.
i'll just play gore simulator 2013 then
[QUOTE=Tomthetechy;39142425]Damn shame.[/QUOTE]
For future reference, don't necro a thread.
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