Maricopa Co. Sheriff's Office: "9 points of forgery" in Obama's birth certificate - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Tudd;51536971]So do I have to comment on every candidate speculated or chosen by Trump in the last week and all the other articles daily to make it up for you?[/QUOTE] no he's just pointing out how ridiculous it is that you come into sensationalist headlines with your partisan dribble in attempt to make sensationalist headlines "EQUAL" by quite literally shitting on the other side of the scale in attempt to make the heavy load of trump's dumbfuckery more balanced [QUOTE=Tudd;51466587]I actually think I help keep the forum balanced by being one of the only guys that posts threads from the other side.[/QUOTE] the problem is that you couldn't give a shit about truth or logic. you only care about balance. you only care about meeting quotas like the stereotypical social justice warrior you so much hate.

[media]http://youtu.be/jk3KRxTfkLM[/media] Here's the actual press conference. It's pretty fucking damning. Regardless of what this means, there's a 99.99999% chance that the birth certificate is fake if this guy isn't lying. The chances of the hand-drawn lines under the dates being identical despite the certificates being signed 15-16 days apart, is insanely low. This isn't "at a glance it looks close", this is pixel perfect 1:1 exactly the same. There's more but I don't want to write a full synopsis of a 1 hour conference.

lmao too late sheriff, he's already served 8 years despite being a Kenyan hellbent on destroying America. Wish u could have done this earlier and saved us from the horrors of his competent governance.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51536985][img]http://i.imgur.com/TBuZAyF.png[/img] we live in a strange surrealist reality[/QUOTE] No, it's really not. We live in a time where money>everything, it doesn't matter how rage-inducing or fictitious any piece of information is. Fox, CNN, gawker, motherjones, and breitbart are sources of media (and many others) that benefit from drumming up as much controversy as possible. People are going to try and profit from the outrage, now, and for a long time. Because if there's anything that's been shown in the past years, it's that it makes fat stacks. It's really unfortunate that anybody is giving this any attention, much like giving hufffingtonpost or gawker any attention- they thrive off of any kind of attention. It's for the clicks, it's for the rage, it's for the people to get emotionally invested into something because that's easiest way to grab somebody's attention: anger. To alot of you, this really isn't news... Not sure what's exactly different here.

I feel like if this was true somebody else would have found it by now. Not with less than a month left in the presidency. Especially if it was easy as dragging text from one certificate to the other like the conference suggests. But the point of this isn't whether it's true or not. It's desperate character assassination. They know by the time it's disproven they can drag Obama (and all liberals because it's a war to conservatives) even further through the mud.

[quote]For years, Obama has been dogged by allegations that he is not qualified to take office, due to a provision in the United States Constitution that only allows "natural born citizens" to be eligible for election as President of the United States.[/quote] [quote]The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth," either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; [b]by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents[/b]; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship "at birth". Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an "alien" required to go through the legal process of "naturalization" to become a U.S. citizen.[/quote] [url]https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42097.pdf[/url] His mother, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham]Ann Dunham[/url], was an American citizen. She was from painfully-landlocked Kansas. Even assuming he was born abroad (he wasn't), it wouldn't matter; since she was a citizen, that makes him a citizen as her son (jus sanguinis). Why the fuck are we still having this conversation. He leaves in a little over a month. It's over. He's a citizen. He was our president. Deal with it.

[QUOTE=Laferio;51537027]No, it's really not. We live in a time where money>everything, it doesn't matter how rage-inducing or fictitious any piece of information is. Fox, CNN, gawker, motherjones, and breitbart are sources of media (and many others) that benefit from drumming up as much controversy as possible. People are going to try and profit from the outrage, now, and for a long time. Because if there's anything that's been shown in the past years, it's that it makes fat stacks. It's really unfortunate that anybody is giving this any attention, much like giving hufffingtonpost or gawker any attention- they thrive off of any kind of attention. It's for the clicks, it's for the rage, it's for the people to get emotionally invested into something because that's easiest way to grab somebody's attention: anger. To alot of you, this really isn't news... Not sure what's exactly different here.[/QUOTE] Related: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc[/media]

[QUOTE=Laferio;51537027]No, it's really not. We live in a time where money>everything, it doesn't matter how rage-inducing or fictitious any piece of information is. Fox, CNN, gawker, motherjones, and breitbart are sources of media (and many others) that benefit from drumming up as much controversy as possible. People are going to try and profit from the outrage, now, and for a long time. Because if there's anything that's been shown in the past years, it's that it makes fat stacks. It's really unfortunate that anybody is giving this any attention, much like giving hufffingtonpost or gawker any attention- they thrive off of any kind of attention. It's for the clicks, it's for the rage, it's for the people to get emotionally invested into something because that's easiest way to grab somebody's attention: anger. To alot of you, this really isn't news... Not sure what's exactly different here.[/QUOTE] Well, thats all well and good until you realize that a good portion of the US takes this stuff seriously. Including some users here that you think would know better.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51536885]Arpaio and his department are hardly no-name in the US[/QUOTE] They're known for all the wrong reasons. It's a swamp that needs drained. But trump won't say anything

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51537006]no he's just pointing out how ridiculous it is that you come into sensationalist headlines with your partisan dribble in attempt to make sensationalist headlines "EQUAL" by quite literally shitting on the other side of the scale in attempt to make the heavy load of trump's dumbfuckery more balanced the problem is that you couldn't give a shit about truth or logic. you only care about balance. you only care about meeting quotas like the stereotypical social justice warrior you so much hate.[/QUOTE] Ouch, comparing me to a socially constructed quota was quite painful. I don't see why it is a surprise to you I post content you generally won't like. Our opinions are obviously pretty far off. I just think how badly you paint me as a devilish malcontent is pretty sad though. I do post in threads that have content that make Trump look bad, and Trump makes himself look bad quite easily and often, so I miss threads or just glance over them just like anyone else does. If you want, you could always PM on specific topic you want my opinion on. Or on here if you really want, but that can get abit off topic.

Obama is a citizen. He is the president. He remains the president for only a month longer. Deal with it. Trump going after him would not only be a waste of time but would easily breach presidential powers and would be grounds for impeachment.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;51537058]They're known for all the wrong reasons. It's a swamp that needs drained. But trump won't say anything[/QUOTE] There's nothing to say. Arpaio lost in the election.

isn't there also a newspaper from hawaii that showed that he was born there

[QUOTE=Tudd;51537078]I don't see why it is a surprise to you I post content you generally won't like. Our opinions are obviously pretty far off. I just think how badly you paint me as a devilish malcontent is pretty sad though.[/quote] It's not even based on opinions. It's based on facts. You posted an article of some nutjob who likes to sell books saying that Obama's long form birth certificate is fake on the basis that they used the same stamps, who used a powerpoint presentation with the the same style and narration of that you would find in a GTAV radio commercial meant to poke fun about conservative fear mongering.

Keep in mind, if this is true then it means that the President of the United States forged a document that is vital to one's identity and lied to the entire United States of America. Regardless of if he actually is a citizen or not, it's still a lie and a felony offense. It casts a lot of doubt on just who he is and why he'd do this. I didn't believe it at first when a friend linked me to the r/the_donald thread about it. I checked through some of the "sources" there and dismissed it as total bullshit. I then dug around a bit deeper and found the actual news conference. I watched it entirely, and that's some pretty solid proof that they found something wrong with it. I hate to say this, but they're probably right. It's too much wrong with the document to not be intentional. Also if people would actually read/watch the sources instead of automatically dismissing it as bullshit without digging into it at all, or repeat "He's only got a month left, leave him alone, he's still a citizen" like a broken record, we wouldn't have problems with fake news or corporate meddling in this fucking country.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51537142]It's not even based on opinions. It's based on facts. You posted an article of some nutjob who likes to sell books saying that Obama's long form birth certificate is fake on the basis that they used the same stamps, who used a powerpoint presentation with the the same style and narration of that you would find in a GTAV radio commercial meant to poke fun about conservative fear mongering.[/QUOTE] Either intentional straw man fallacy or you didn't bother to really watch any of this. [media]http://youtu.be/jk3KRxTfkLM[/media]

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51536917]It has nothing to do with his race, he had a questionable childhood that sparked Clinton supporters to start this witchhunt. If a white dude was born in Germany or someshit you bet his political rivals would do the same thing.[/QUOTE] Ted Cruz was born in Canada. McCain was born in Panama. [I]Nobody brought those up[/I]. The Clinton campaign [URL="http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-started-birther-movement/"]didn't start the birther conspiracy.[/URL] Stop peddling lies, for fuck's sake. I'm going to have to start following every nonsense post you make disproving all the [I]absolute bullshit[/I] you spout on a daily basis.

gee, I'm glad tax payer dollars were wasted on this.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51536947]You mean like when people tried to bring up McCain not being born in the US in order to make his presidential run illegitimate? (Oh, wait. He's white so he doesn't count.)[/QUOTE] I voted McCain and I didn't even hear about this.

Why are we even still talking about this? Every "leader" of the birther movement is a proven liar, this shouldn't even be mentioned. Just a desperate attempt to throw people off of anything that's currently happening.

This is proof that if a law enforcement agency wants your blood, they can and will come up with any false bullshit imaginable to get you.

[QUOTE=1/4 Life;51537203]This is proof that if a law enforcement agency wants your blood, they can and will come up with any false bullshit imaginable to get you.[/QUOTE] what, no. You're delusional.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;51537183]Ted Cruz was born in Canada. McCain was born in Panama. [I]Nobody brought those up[/I]. The Clinton campaign [URL="http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-started-birther-movement/"]didn't start the birther conspiracy.[/URL] Stop peddling lies, for fuck's sake. I'm going to have to start following every nonsense post you make disproving all the [I]absolute bullshit[/I] you spout on a daily basis.[/QUOTE] Where in my post did I claim her campaign started it? Her campaign started the Muslim shit, not the birther movement.

[QUOTE=1/4 Life;51537203]This is proof that if a law enforcement agency wants your blood, they can and will come up with any false bullshit imaginable to get you.[/QUOTE] This stuff goes by a case-by-case basis. Don't pretend that every law enforcement agency is the same.

[QUOTE=-nesto-;51537211]Where in my post did I claim her campaign started it? Her campaign started the Muslim shit, not the birther movement.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=-nesto-;51536917]It has nothing to do with his race, he had a questionable childhood that [b]sparked Clinton supporters to start this witchhunt.[/b] If a white dude was born in Germany or someshit you bet his political rivals would do the same thing.[/QUOTE] kinda right there

[QUOTE=1/4 Life;51537203]This is proof that if a law enforcement agency wants your blood, they can and will come up with any false bullshit imaginable to get you.[/QUOTE] Watch this [url]https://youtu.be/8frqVINnQjc?t=1m16s[/url] and tell me again they are making things up.

[QUOTE=zombini;51537157]Keep in mind, if this is true then it means that the President of the United States forged a document that is vital to one's identity and lied to the entire United States of America. Regardless of if he actually is a citizen or not, it's still a lie and a felony offense. It casts a lot of doubt on just who he is and why he'd do this. I didn't believe it at first when a friend linked me to the r/the_donald thread about it. I checked through some of the "sources" there and dismissed it as total bullshit. I then dug around a bit deeper and found the actual news conference. I watched it entirely, and that's some pretty solid proof that they found something wrong with it. I hate to say this, but they're probably right. It's too much wrong with the document to not be intentional. Also if people would actually read/watch the sources instead of automatically dismissing it as bullshit without digging into it at all, or repeat "He's only got a month left, leave him alone, he's still a citizen" like a broken record, we wouldn't have problems with fake news or corporate meddling in this fucking country.[/QUOTE] I totally agree with that last statement you made. I just hope some people actually tackle the evidence presented instead of outright dismissal.

I don't understand this Birther shit. Even if he was born in Kenya he'd still be able to be President since his Mother is an American citizen.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;51537262]I don't understand this Birther shit. Even if he was born in Kenya he'd still be able to be President since his Mother is an American citizen.[/QUOTE] Irrelevant to whether the president or anyone involved with him forged a legal document.

[QUOTE]Where in my post did I claim [B]her campaign[/B] started it?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=God of Ashes;51537251]kinda right there[/QUOTE] kinda not