I think the issue here is less that Trump broke this specific tradition as much as it's trying to highlight how little respect he seems to have for his office.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;52028728]Although I think a lot on the left are just using this as ammunition to blast Trump rather then focusing on his other, actual fuckups. From my own experience only conservatives/right-wing are major sports fags, but who knows.[/QUOTE]
It's probably more common for conservatives and right-wingers to be more interested in sports but it's definitely not [I]only[/I] them. My stepdad's a very liberal person, for example, and he's very heavily into sports.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;52028728]It goes back to baseball being the "American pastime" since the turn of the 20th century, being the first professional major league sport.
Although I think a lot on the left are just using this as ammunition to blast Trump rather then focusing on his other, actual fuckups. From my own experience only conservatives/right-wing are major sports fags, but who knows.[/QUOTE]
Okay, but for real think about this.
Obama was lambasted for weeks over using [B]dijon mustard[/B]
I wish life was more about "Be the bigger man" but that doesn't really exist, happen, or matter.
The truth of the issue is that for years people shit on the president. Now, people will continue to shit on the president because nothing really changed in that regard. We just have an orange baboon instead of Obama.
The call outs will always happen.
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[QUOTE=Tigster;52029977]Why on earth would competitive video games destroy baseball? And why should it?[/QUOTE]
I don't know if it will but if you think about it in terms of market share I can easily see many current sports becoming smaller sports by market share with e sports taking some of that market share over. Will it kill them? Probably not, but they share a market of "People willing to watch people play games" Because even sports are just games.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;52030299]I think the issue here is less that Trump broke this specific tradition as much as it's trying to highlight how little respect he seems to have for his office.
It's probably more common for conservatives and right-wingers to be more interested in sports but it's definitely not [I]only[/I] them. My stepdad's a very liberal person, for example, and he's very heavily into sports.[/QUOTE]You can joke and say hes on vacation or afraid he'll biff it even though he's thrown a first pitch before, but how the hell is it disrespect of the fucking office? Was part of the oath of office to throw the first pitch for every Nationals opening day, and if you can't, you must give a better reason than "Sorry, can't do it, scheduling conflict"? If you want see disrespect, he'd do what I'd do, say "Fuck Walgreens, Bryce Harper can eat a dick", sign an executive order giving all 40% of the Nats stake in MASN to the Orioles, then throw the first pitch in Baltimore whether big asbestos daddy Peter Angelos wants me to or not.
Do you people just blindly believe what some random rag sops up? The Times article on this made it seem like the last time a president missed the first pitch was fucking WWII.
[QUOTE=IFawDown;52030396]You can joke and say hes on vacation or afraid he'll biff it even though he's thrown a first pitch before, but how the hell is it disrespect of the fucking office? Was part of the oath of office to throw the first pitch for every Nationals opening day, and if you can't, you must give a better reason than "Sorry, can't do it, scheduling conflict"? If you want see disrespect, he'd do what I'd do, say "Fuck Walgreens, Bryce Harper can eat a dick", sign an executive order giving all 40% of the Nats stake in MASN to the Orioles, then throw the first pitch in Baltimore whether big asbestos daddy Peter Angelos wants me to or not.
Do you people just blindly believe what some random rag sops up? The Times article on this made it seem like the last time a president missed the first pitch was fucking WWII.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you couldn't have misinterpreted what I said any harder. My point is that he actively shows little to no respect for his office to begin with so him not bothering with an inane tradition should come as no surprise. This specific instance is a strange one to focus on for the article but the point is his actions consistently show a lack of respect for his office in any way.
[QUOTE=MR-X;52029075]Nah I think most people just hate him and this is another thing for them to shit on. I don't like him but seriously who cares? This is laughable at most, he is skipping on pitching a ball.[/QUOTE]
See, I'd agree with you and as I mentioned, I'd normally not care about this, except that it now falls into a pattern where, as Dr. C pointed out, if it's not an event that the man considers his safe space/hug box where he'll be surrounded by his loyal supporters, he doesn't show up.
[URL="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/white-house-correspondents-dinner-white-house-staff-not-attending-show-solidarity-trump-989602"]See what he did with the White House Correspondents Dinner?[/URL] As slammed as Bush was by his second term, he still fucking showed up, took it on the chin. As much as I was loathe to like his presidency, I've come to respect the guy for still being open to criticism compared to this giant manbaby.
I wouldn't care about this if it didn't present itself as a symptom of something exceedingly worrying and a far greater problem - a head of state that has started to be so self-involved and egotistical that he doesn't even really care about the needs of his people; he just does what he wants and expects the faceless "peasant" masses to accept it. Even his own supporters have begun to turn on him after the healthcare debacle.
By itself, this 107 year thing is meaningless, but the man seems intent on building his infamy brick by brick and doing this is one way to accomplish it.
[QUOTE=IFawDown;52030231]He isn't though[/QUOTE]
He is. It doesn't matter that other presidents have broken it before him. It's a long standing tradition that has been around for over a hundred years.
[QUOTE=Paramud;52030837]He is. It doesn't matter that other presidents have broken it before him. It's a long standing tradition that has been around for over a hundred years.[/QUOTE]
Look, I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but a number of posters in here have already clarified that it's a pitch sometime within the Presidency, not the first. Post #45 has some great info.
Edit: To clarify, I'm not talking about the whole "declining because he's afraid of getting ripped on" topic, just the "is he actually breaking the tradition right now".
[QUOTE=WhichStrider;52030886]Look, I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but a number of posters in here have already clarified that it's a pitch sometime within the Presidency, not the first. Post #45 has some great info.[/QUOTE]
And I responded to that post in Post #48.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52030308]Okay, but for real think about this.
Obama was lambasted for weeks over using [B]dijon mustard[/B]
I wish life was more about "Be the bigger man" but that doesn't really exist, happen, or matter.
The truth of the issue is that for years people shit on the president. Now, people will continue to shit on the president because nothing really changed in that regard. We just have an orange baboon instead of Obama.
The call outs will always happen.
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Thanks for reminding me of that, gave a good chuckle.
It was Fake N-I mean Fox that did it, right?
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