[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20495783]If you can't come up with a decent reply don't post you arsewipe. Murder can never be justified.[/QUOTE]
What about in cases of self-defense or when a woman makes your sandwich wrong?
Face it machinios, your ancient ways of peace are obsolete in our badass-murderous society.
Everyone knows that hitler, stalin, Ivan the terrible, and jack the ripper were the greatest men to ever live. real role models
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20495855]Then it'd still be wrong. He should at least be given a chance to appeal, but that's not taking human emotion into effect. The more emotional types probably would try to justify it with his actions but it's your actions your trying to justify not his.[/QUOTE]
Only some human emotions can be taken into consideration when dealing with murder cases. Main one being self defence, provocation and the 'slow-burn' effect where an abused person will in a fit of rage kill their abuser.
But since this guy is a serial killer you can pretty much dismiss this. He's either in a normal prison for the rest of his life or being held in a funny farm till he's 'cured' (i.e. never).
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20497632]But killing a person in self-defence isn't murder, neither is a legal war.[/QUOTE]
EXACTLY. [B]CHOO CHOO[/B], here comes the fucking clue train, last stop: YOU.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;20499114]Face it machinios, your ancient ways of peace are obsolete in our badass-murderous society.
Everyone knows that hitler, [B]stalin[/B], Ivan the terrible, and jack the ripper were the greatest men to ever live. real role models[/QUOTE]
Because murdering you own army is a real desirable trait. Hitler, while a great politician, was a shit strategist.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20499042]Yes but we aren't under threat from wild animals anymore, there is no reason to show it.
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Yes there is, goddamn are you that naive? It's not called bloodlust either (which is a fucking corny name), it's your flight/flight response. We aren't under threat from wild animals; we're under threat from eachother.
I'm assuming you're not 18/21/legal drinking age in your area and haven't gone out to clubs and see the violence that men can inflict on eachother at the drop of a hat. I'm not talking about a tesosterone fueled incident where both men have practically agreed to fight, I'm talking about bunch of guys waiting till you walk outside and smashing a glass into your face and then soccer kicking your head, while they rifle your pockets.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20499283]Because murdering you own army is a real desirable trait. Hitler, while a great politician, was a shit strategist.[/QUOTE]
Stalin was such a great guy that he killed ANYBODY.
That's what made him so nice.
[QUOTE=professional;20499303]Yes there is, goddamn are you that naive? It's not called bloodlust either (which is a fucking corny name), it's your flight/flight response. We aren't under threat from wild animals; we're under threat from eachother.
[B]I'm assuming you're not 18/21/legal drinking age in your area and haven't gone out to clubs and see the violence that men can inflict on eachother at the drop of a hat. I'm not talking about a tesosterone fueled incident where both men have practically agreed to fight, I'm talking about bunch of guys waiting till you walk outside and smashing a glass into your face and then soccer kicking your head, while they rifle your pockets.[/B][/QUOTE]
That qualifies as a reason to use "fight/flight"?
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[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;20499308]Stalin was such a great guy that he killed ANYBODY.
That's what made him so nice.[/QUOTE]
And that's why so many Russians died. Millions of Russians can't be wrong.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20499366]That qualifies as a reason to use "fight/flight"?
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Fuck. Do I have to explain this shit to you? Fight/Flight isn't a moral decision, it's the body's natural response to dangerous situation. There's no fucking "reason" here, I'll say it again: The reason we still have a highly developed fight flight response is because we are still under threat. There doesn't need to be sabertooth tigers roaming around.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20499042]Yes but we aren't under threat from wild animals anymore, there is no reason to show it.
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Quoting exactly where you said it, so you can get a clue. The other guy wrongly described it as bloodlust.
i write fanfics about hitler and stalin
A psychopath doesn't "get better".
He's going to be a killer until he's dead.
Well if someone doesn't murder then who will keep our population in check? Go murderers, natural disasters, and war! No over-population!
Leave him to rot
[QUOTE=professional;20499431]Fuck. Do I have to explain this shit to you? Fight/Flight isn't a moral decision, it's the body's natural response to dangerous situation. There's no fucking "reason" here, I'll say it again: The reason we still have a highly developed fight flight response is because we are still under threat. There doesn't need to be sabertooth tigers roaming around.
Quoting exactly where you said it, so you can get a clue. The other guy wrongly described it as bloodlust.[/QUOTE]
If you're hammered anything is seen as a threat to you, hell i've seen a girl smash a glass bottle on another girls face because she thought she was too pretty for her own good.
Why are they still keeping him? Just let him out already for fucks sakes, he's wasting tax payers money, he cannot remember where he hid any of his victims, release him.
[QUOTE=radioactive;20499626]Why are they still keeping him? Just let him out already for fucks sakes, he's wasting tax payers money, he cannot remember where he hid any of his victims, release him.[/QUOTE]
I dunno i still don't trust him.
Don't be so selfish! Think about the human race here! Over population is gonna happen if we don't have these checkers.
[QUOTE=jota de;20499539]A psychopath doesn't "get better".
He's going to be a killer until he's dead.[/QUOTE]
Hitler got better!
He's a productive member of society!
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20499042]Yes but we aren't under threat from wild animals anymore, there is no reason to show it.
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If they fire on you you shooting back is self-defence. I do understand that going on the offensive can be seen as murder but in the legal sense it's not.[/QUOTE]
No at the end of the day ending a human life is ending a human life.
Don't get legal and technical, it's the same fucking thing, and in certain circumstances i can see no issue with it.
[QUOTE=bravehat;20499934]No at the end of the day ending a human life is ending a human life.
Don't get legal and technical, it's the same fucking thing, and in certain circumstances i can see no issue with it.[/QUOTE]
But it's still not murder, it's self-defence. Anyway, lets just agree to disagree.
I think that murder is morally justified if the victims hair is spiky or if they wear a collar popped up
A sniper shooting an insurgent half a mile away is hardly self defense.
btw that's not one of the cases i disagree with, i support the murders during war.
[QUOTE=bravehat;20500089]A sniper shooting an insurgent half a mile away is hardly self defense.
btw that's not one of the cases i disagree with, i support the murders during war.[/QUOTE]
Pfft, that insurgent had it coming.
[QUOTE=bravehat;20500089]A sniper shooting an insurgent half a mile away is hardly [B]self defense.
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btw that's not one of the cases i disagree with, i support the murders during war.[/QUOTE]
You could still argue that it is as if a convoy is heading down there he could be part of an ambush, but you can't be certain so it isn't.
I say send him to Midsommer, he'll fit right in. Or be brutally murdered.
I'd say set him free when hes 70 or 75. He won't have the physical capacity to be much of a danger to a healthy woman at that point, and that's even if he has bad intentions.
oh my gosh guys he learned his lessons let him go
This reminds me of when the Lockerbie (Sp?) Bomber was let out 6 months ago because he had pancreatic cancer and was supposed to die in 3 months.
It's been 6 months. He's living a life of luxury in Libya, and he is recovering from the cancer.
[QUOTE=KmScMT;20499506]i write fanfics about hitler and stalin[/QUOTE]
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