Couple found guilty of murder after using Christian parenting book "To Train Up a Child"

[ionuttzu]

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42919716]Actually, the Bible pretty much loves telling parents to be violent against their children.

Proverbs 13:24

Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.[/QUOTE]
Oh come the fuck on if you start being euphoric and actually bothering to post Bible quotes then you should know that the Bible likes to contradict itself on pretty much everything it says, and that's because it was written by multiple people through the times. So a lot of the stuff said is normal for those times (beating your kid for example, but not beating the kid so hard that he dies like these crazies did).
And besides, the Bible as a whole pretty much agrees that one should not harm innocents. So there you go.

[Shark Bones]

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;42920231]Oh come the fuck on if you start being euphoric and actually bothering to post Bible quotes then you should know that the Bible likes to contradict itself on pretty much everything it says, and that's because it was written by multiple people through the times. So a lot of the stuff said is normal for those times (beating your kid for example, but not beating the kid so hard that he dies like these crazies did).
And besides, the Bible as a whole pretty much agrees that one should not harm innocents. So there you go.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, because it's a really shitty book absolutely full of contradictions that people really ought not follow.

[ionuttzu]

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42920238]Yeah, because it's a really shitty book that people really ought not follow.[/QUOTE]
*tips fedora*
Insulting what people believe in is the best answer to everything

[yawmwen]

[QUOTE=valkery;42920164]There are three kinds of atheists.

[B]Passive[/B] ones that coexist with religion because people are entitled to believe what they want.
[B]Defensive[/B] ones that defend their points when pressed, but leave well enough alone most of the time.
[B]Dickhead[/B] ones that needlessly bash religions in order to get attention.

Which one do you think you are being right now?[/QUOTE]

he's being either the first or second.

[Shark Bones]

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;42920246]*tips fedora*
Insulting what people believe in is the best answer to everything[/QUOTE]

I'm insulting a book that's very poorly written. I don't care if it's deluded fans get mad. I talk shit on Twilight, too. I don't care if fangirls hate me for it, IT'S A TERRIBLE BOOK.

[valkery]

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42920238]Yeah, because it's a really shitty book absolutely full of contradictions that people really ought not follow.[/QUOTE]

And I'm sure that with your clever replies and shrewd, one-of-a-kind intellect, you alone can save the world from the ravages of religious fervor.

[yawmwen]

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42920256]I'm insulting a book that's very poorly written. I don't care if it's deluded fans get mad. I talk shit on Twilight, too. I don't care if fangirls hate me for it, IT'S A TERRIBLE BOOK.[/QUOTE]

twilight is still a better book than the bible.

the bible is just boring...if god is omnipotent why didn't he hire a team of better writers?

[ionuttzu]

[QUOTE=yawmwen;42920279]twilight is still a better book than the bible.

the bible is just boring...if god is omnipotent why didn't he hire a team of better writers?[/QUOTE]
So an anarchist, communist and now I even hear you talking such shit.
Wow. You two should meet up.

[Shark Bones]

[QUOTE=valkery;42920277]And I'm sure that with your clever replies and shrewd, one-of-a-kind intellect, you alone can save the world from the ravages of religious fervor.[/QUOTE]

I can't save the world.

I can only save myself.

[Juniez]

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42920185]I'm not an atheist. I'm an agnostic, who bashes on ALL religions, INCLUDING atheism, because it's ALL stupid to me.

These made up gods/lack thereof provide way too much potential for people to abuse them for their own sick ways.

Nobody knows if God exists or not, that's a proven fact. I'm sick of seeing shit like this, abused children, because the Bible says it's ok.[/QUOTE]

thats not what agnostic means

[Lachz0r]

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;42920299]So an anarchist, communist and now I even hear you talking such shit.
Wow. You two should meet up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;42920246]*tips fedora*
Insulting what people believe in is the best answer to everything[/QUOTE]

[Shark Bones]

[QUOTE=Juniez;42920318]thats not what agnostic means[/QUOTE]

"Agnosticism is the belief that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, as well as other religious and metaphysical claims—are unknown."

[Banned?]

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42920185]I'm not an atheist. I'm an agnostic, who bashes on ALL religions, INCLUDING atheism, because it's ALL stupid to me.

These made up gods/lack thereof provide way too much potential for people to abuse them for their own sick ways.

Nobody knows if God exists or not, that's a proven fact. I'm sick of seeing shit like this, abused children, because the Bible says it's ok.[/QUOTE]

That's not what being agnostic means...

[ionuttzu]

[quote=Lachz0r]quotes[/quote]
I just mentioned he's an anarchist and a communist in the same sentence.
Nothing wrong with that combo? Can't compare with some random christian guy that these two keep calling sheeple or whatever else they think.

[Shark Bones]

[QUOTE=Banned?;42920335]That's not what being agnostic means...[/QUOTE]

Man, there's a real echo in here.

[Juniez]

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42920325]"Agnosticism is the belief that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, as well as other religious and metaphysical claims—are unknown."[/QUOTE]

no, an agnostic wouldn't bash every other religion / non religion because as doubtful as he is, he knows that it might possibly be true

[Shark Bones]

[QUOTE=Juniez;42920350]no, an agnostic wouldn't bash every other religion / non religion because as doubtful as he is, he knows that it might possibly be true[/QUOTE]

Incorrect. My bashing of religion has nothing to do with my agnostic beliefs.

I simply have a personal vendetta against mainstream religion.

[ionuttzu]

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42920358]Incorrect. My bashing of religion has nothing to do with my agnostic beliefs.

I simply have a [B]personal vendetta[/B] against mainstream religion.[/QUOTE]
Hahahaha, oh wow this is gold

[Banned?]

So you're not agnostic, you just have no idea what you're taking about.

[Juniez]

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42920358]Incorrect. My bashing of religion has nothing to do with my agnostic beliefs.

I simply have a personal vendetta against mainstream religion.[/QUOTE]

oh so your lack of theistic preference isn't at play here... it's just your hateful nature!

[Shark Bones]

I acknowledge that there's no way in hell I know if God exists or not.

I just get pissed at people for insisting he does/does not. I find it to be the epitome of lack of intelligence.

[yawmwen]

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;42920299]So an anarchist, communist and now I even hear you talking such shit.
Wow. You two should meet up.[/QUOTE]

how do u hear me ur like....thousands of miles away??

[ANIMAL MOTHER]

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42920387]I acknowledge that there's no way in hell I know if God exists or not.

I just get pissed at people for insisting he does/does not. I find it to be the epitome of lack of intelligence.[/QUOTE]

So, you're telling me that everyone who believes/does not believe in God are stupid?

Well shit that's a lot of dumb people.

[Shark Bones]

[QUOTE=Juniez;42920377]oh so your lack of theistic preference isn't at play here... it's just your hateful nature![/QUOTE]

Precisely.

I was drawn to agnosticism because I found everyone to just be full of shit. I don't know if there's a God, and frankly I don't care if there is. If God exists, he's a huge fucking asshole who deserves none of my respect.

[editline]19th November 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=F T;42920411]So, you're telling me that everyone who believes/does not believe in God are stupid?

Well shit that's a lot of dumb people.[/QUOTE]

Well I [I]do[/I] happen to think a majority of the human race are idiots.

[Juniez]

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42920414]Precisely.

I was drawn to agnosticism because I found everyone to just be full of shit. I don't know if there's a God, and frankly I don't care if there is. If God exists, he's a huge fucking asshole who deserves none of my respect.

[editline]19th November 2013[/editline]

Well I [I]do[/I] happen to think a majority of the human race are idiots.[/QUOTE]

my condolences

[valkery]

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42920387]I acknowledge that there's no way in hell I know if God exists or not.

I just get pissed at people for insisting he does/does not. I find it to be the epitome of lack of intelligence.[/QUOTE]

Truthfully, I find people who believe that sharks posses a skeletal structure to be the most unintelligent.

[coup]

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;42919650]How the fuck can you call yourself christian while you do such shit?
It's completely against anything the Bible says[/QUOTE]

The bible says outright that you should stone your child to death if they disobey you (the parent). This isn't very far from one of the (many) verses that talks about how gays are deserving of death too.

[Sgman91]

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;42920256]I'm insulting a book that's very poorly written. I don't care if it's deluded fans get mad. I talk shit on Twilight, too. I don't care if fangirls hate me for it, IT'S A TERRIBLE BOOK.[/QUOTE]

You're like a highschooler who read a couple paragraphs of Socrates and thinks he's the arbiter of philosophy. It's obvious in the story of the sacrificing of Isaac that Abraham never actually believed that he would have to sacrifice Isaac. He knew that God had already promised that Isaac was the promised son who would continue his line and therefore would either be raised from the dead or not be killed at all. One simple example is that he tells the people waiting at the base of the mountain that they will both come back down again.

Actual verses that I'm talking about:

"[B]5 [/B]Abraham said to his young men, “Stay here with the donkey, and I and the lad will go over there; and we will worship and return to you.” - Genesis 22:5

"[B]7 [/B]Isaac spoke to Abraham his father and said, “My father!” And he said, “Here I am, my son.” And he said, “Behold, the fire and the wood, but where is the [B]([URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2022&version=NASB#cen-NASB-555G"]G[/URL])[/B]lamb for the burnt offering?” [B]8 [/B]Abraham said, “God will [B][[URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2022&version=NASB#fen-NASB-556a"]a[/URL]][/B]provide for Himself the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.” So the two of them walked on together.” - Genesis 22:7-8

Both of these clearly show that Abraham's intention was never to actually kill his son and return alone.

[Shark Bones]

[QUOTE=valkery;42920431]Truthfully, I find people who believe that sharks posses a skeletal structure to be the most unintelligent.[/QUOTE]

That's the joke of the screenname. D;

[ionuttzu]

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;42920436]The bible says outright that you should stone your child to death if they disobey you (the parent). This isn't very far from one of the (many) verses that talks about how gays are deserving of death too.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;42920231]Oh come the fuck on if you start being euphoric and actually bothering to post Bible quotes then you should know that the Bible likes to contradict itself on pretty much everything it says, and that's because it was written by multiple people through the times. So a lot of the stuff said is normal for those times (beating your kid for example, but not beating the kid so hard that he dies like these crazies did).
And besides, the Bible as a whole pretty much agrees that one should not harm innocents. So there you go.[/QUOTE]