New US debt plans unveiled: Democrats offer to cut more than twice as much as Republicans and not to
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[QUOTE=Camundongo;31337285]So, uh, how are they getting these free iphones?[/QUOTE]
Here's the link.
[url]https://www.reachoutmobile.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;31337324]Giving the Republicans 98% of what they want? This is the Democrat's idea of negotiating?[/QUOTE]
When Republicans don't understand the concept of negotiating, there's not a lot the Democrats can do to avoid rolling over.
[editline]25th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31337359]Here's the link.
[url]https://www.reachoutmobile.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
So do you believe the wealthy should hold onto their tax cuts?
[QUOTE=Protocol7;31331530]We've gotten to the point where we've just been adding on to the government, and things like welfare, social security, medicare and medicaid are being so abused that it's a giant outflow of money that should be corrected asap. The spending limit needs to be raised situationally, I agree, but it builds up to a point where we need to step back and say "Alright, where's the leak in the pipe?"[/QUOTE]
Leak in the pipe? The pipe fell out of the wall a long time ago, and all there's been since is this torrential flood of water flooding us up to our necks.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31337359]Here's the link.
[url]https://www.reachoutmobile.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
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Obama's spending is like a runaway train!!
[url=http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24editorial_graph2.html?ref=sunday]Source - New York Times[/url]
[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24sun4.html]And the article it's from[/url]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;31337545]Obama's spending is like a runaway train!![/QUOTE]
I'm a Democrat, so no arguments here, but you'll need a source for that thing. For all we know it's streight out of [i]Graphjam[/i].
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31337359]Here's the link.
[url]https://www.reachoutmobile.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.reachoutmobile.com/index.php/site/page/C2/[/url]
Government ASSISSTED
Discount with occasional free phones
Not paid by taxpayers
~okay~
[QUOTE=Sega Saturn;31337627]I'm a Democrat, so no arguments here, but you'll need a source for that thing. For all we know it's streight out of [i]Graphjam[/i].[/QUOTE]
Heh, oops. Thought the NYTimes logo was part of the image. Fixed.
[QUOTE=oldeskoolfan;31336979]Here's the thing though... Obama has tried to create public jobs via various projects. He even proposed a $6 billion cross-country public train system, but republicans shot that down instantly. Despite the fact that it would have created thousands of jobs, would have resulted in a pretty good revenue over time and finally collected taxes from those workers.
If republicans were really against these entitlement programs, they would allow for job creation, not stifling it. The thing about the republican party at the moment is that they have no idea what the hell they actually want, they just want to fight whatever the democrats are promoting because it'll cost just a bit of money.
If the GOP doesn't take this deal from the democrats, it'll show just how horrible of a state the GOP is actually in, and just how much they do not belong in office at this time.[/QUOTE]
Ugh, we need a better train system in the US badly too. Our current one is pretty shitty.
A new cross country system would have been awesome.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;31337324]Giving the Republicans 98% of what they want? This is the Democrat's idea of negotiating?[/QUOTE]
Getting 100% of what they want is the Republicans' idea of negotiating.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31336912]You can get free I-phones from the government. [/QUOTE]
Going to need a source for this.
[QUOTE=Chilean;31338231]Getting 100% of what they want is the Republicans' idea of negotiating.[/QUOTE]
It's like Bush never left. Those fuckers still get everything they demand.
I swear it feels like the collective users of facepunch are all smarter then the idiots running the government right now...
[QUOTE=ElChrisman99;31341730]I swear it feels like the collective users of facepunch are all smarter then the idiots running the government right now...[/QUOTE]
Some of the idiots here are smarter than the idiots there.
[QUOTE=J!NX;31341858]Some of the idiots here are smarter than the idiots there.[/QUOTE]
Sad, but true.
[QUOTE=J!NX;31341858]Some of the idiots here are smarter than the idiots there.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31331227]This is just as it says, the Democrats' last resort. They tried to get a tax raise with some spending cuts, then tried to go with just their original spending cuts, and now they just want to make sure that those who need the healthcare and aid from Medicare and Medicaid still get theirs when all this is said and done. For the Republicans to not accept this deal would be monstrous.[/QUOTE]
People are monsters. Don't be surprised.
I bet that the republicans will not agree on it because of some small cut made to something they like. IE: NRA. But it's time we cut spending and stop fighting wars. Cmon USA.
Boba_Fett being the not really smart person he is said that there were IPhones here...
[url]https://www.reachoutmobile.com/[/url] (Government Site)
I even doubt the fact that it's a Gov.Site because it's registered on GoDaddy
Why are people so against tax rises?
I love how all the liberals in this thread stereotype all republicans, and if they get stereotyped themselves its a big fucking deal.
On a more serious note, I hope the republicans take the deal, its what they have wanted this whole time.
[QUOTE=Rich209;31344708]I love how all the liberals in this thread stereotype all republicans, and if they get stereotyped themselves its a big fucking deal.
On a more serious note, I hope the republicans take the deal, its what they have wanted this whole time.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but i hope you'll agree on the fact we only hear the right wing nutcases everyday, not the average republican.
And the worst is that people defend these nutcases.
[QUOTE=Rich209;31344708]I love how [B]all the liberals[/B] in this thread stereotype all republicans, and if they get stereotyped themselves its a big fucking deal.
On a more serious note, I hope the republicans take the deal, its what they have wanted this whole time.[/QUOTE]
Nice stereotyping there.
[QUOTE=LarparNar;31344796]Nice stereotyping there.[/QUOTE]
That's a generalization but okay, your point still stands.
at some point you have to entertain the thought that some of the people in office are legitimate psychopaths.
[QUOTE=Chilean;31331935]
There's nothing wrong with a balanced budget amendment just because the most recently proposed one had ridiculous things packaged with it.[/QUOTE]The government has to be able to function on credit, there are times where it will have to raise the deficit above 20% GDP, this is another ridiculous GOP plan that relies on permanently fusing the health of the economy with the advancement of a nation. They also think that instead of raising revenue we should rely entirely on the growth of the economy to close the debt but those who honestly believe that are delusional, and I wouldn't put it past them with their bible beating bullshit.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;31345741]at some point you have to entertain the thought that some of the people in office are legitimate psychopaths.[/QUOTE]
They've always been psychopaths, there's just a breaking point to how fucking terrible they've fucked up.
[QUOTE=Chilean;31332490]but then I have to get off the sofaaaa[/QUOTE]
If you riot, you could steal all the sofas you want!
Aren't they both temporary plans? If they are the same shit will keep happening over and over again.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31337359]Here's the link.
[URL]https://www.reachoutmobile.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Those aren't iphones, and they don't hand them out willy nilly.
You should actually research things before talking out your ass.
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