5.8 Million More People Hit The Gun Range Than the Golf Course In 2008 In The U.S. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=archangel125;22224643]Let me put this in perspective for you. The number at the end (not in brackets) represents how many died. US school shootings: University of Texas Massacre Austin, Texas, United States August 1 1966 14 SC State killings1 Orangeburg, South Carolina, United States February 8 1968 3 Kent State shootings1 Kent, Ohio, United States May 4 1970 4 Jackson State shootings1 Jackson, Mississippi, United States May 14–15 1970 2 Olean High School shooting1 Olean, New York, United States December 30 1974 3 California State University, Fullerton massacre Fullerton, California, United States July 12 1976 7 Cleveland Elementary School shooting San Diego, California, United States January 29 1979 2 Deer Creek Middle School shooting Littleton, Colorado, United States April 7 1982 1 Parkway South Middle School shooting Manchester, Missouri, United States January 20 1983 2 Goddard Middle School shooting Goddard, Kansas, United States January 21 1985 1 Portland Junior High School shooting Portland, Connecticut, United States December 10 1985 1 Pine Forest Senior High School Fayetteville, North Carolina, United States May 6 1986 0 Pinellas Park High School shooting Largo, Florida, United States February 11 1988 1 Hubbard Woods School shooting Winnetka, Illinois, United States May 20 1988 1 Atlantic Shores Christian School shooting Chesapeake, Virginia, United States December 16 1988 1 Cleveland School massacre Stockton, California, United States January 17 1989 6 University of Iowa shooting Iowa City, Iowa, United States November 1 1991 6 Lindhurst High School shooting Olivehurst, California, United States May 1 1992 4 Palo Duro High School shooting Amarillo, Texas, United States September 11 1992 0 Berkner High School shooting Richardson, TX, United States November 06 1992 1 Edward Tilden High School shooting Chicago, Illinois, United States November 20 1992 1 Simon's Rock College of Bard shooting Great Barrington, Massachusetts, United States December 14 1992 2 East Carter High School shooting Grayson, Kentucky, United States January 18 1993 2 Amityville High School shooting Amityville, New York, United States February 1 1993 1 Reseda High School shooting Reseda, California, United States February 22 1993 1 Wauwatosa West High School shooting Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, United States December 1 1993 1 Margaret Leary Elementary School shooting Butte, Montana, United States April 12 1994 1 Grimsley High School shooting Greensboro, North Carolina, United States October 12 1994 1 Wickliffe Middle School shooting Wickliffe, Ohio, United States November 7 1994 1 Blackville-Hilda High School shooting Blackville, South Carolina, United States October 12 1995 2 Richland High School shooting Lynnville, Tennessee, United States November 15 1995 2 Frontier Middle School shooting Moses Lake, Washington, United States February 2 1996 3 Hamilton High School shooting Scottdale, Georgia, United States February 2 1996 1 San Diego State University shooting San Diego, California, United States August 15 1996 3 Hetzel Union Building shooting State College, Pennsylvania, United States September 17 1996 1 Bethel Regional High School shooting Bethel, Alaska, United States February 19 1997 2 Pearl High School shooting Pearl, Mississippi, United States October 1 1997 2 Heath High School shooting Paducah, Kentucky, United States December 4 1997 3 Westside Middle School shooting Jonesboro, Arkansas, United States March 24 1998 5 Parker Middle School dance shooting1 Edinboro, Pennsylvania, United States April 24 1998 1 Thurston High School shooting Springfield, Oregon, United States May 20 1998 2 Columbine High School massacre Littleton, Colorado, United States April 20 1999 13 Heritage High School shooting Conyers, Georgia, United States May 20 1999 0 Fort Gibson Middle School shooting Fort Gibson, Oklahoma, United States December 6 1999 0 Buell Elementary School shooting Mount Morris Township, Michigan, United States February 29 2000 1 Lake Worth Middle School shooting Lake Worth, Florida, United States May 26 2000 1 University of Arkansas shooting Fayetteville, Arkansas, United States August 28 2000 2 Santana High School shooting Santee, California, United States March 5 2001 2 Granite Hills High School shooting El Cajon, California, United States March 22 2001 0 Martin Luther King, Jr. High School shooting Manhattan, New York, United States January 15 2002 0 Appalachian School of Law shooting Grundy, Virginia, United States January 16 2002 3 John McDonogh High School shooting New Orleans, Louisiana, United States April 14 2003 1 Red Lion Area Junior High School shootings Red Lion, Pennsylvania, United States April 24 2003 2 Case Western Reserve University shooting Cleveland, Ohio, United States May 9 2003 1 Rocori High School shooting Cold Spring, Minnesota, United States September 24 2003 2 Columbia High School shooting East Greenbush, New York, United States February 9 2004 0 Fairleigh Dickinson University shooting Florham Park, New Jersey, United States April 4 2004 2 Randallstown High School shooting Randallstown, Maryland, United States May 7 2004 0 Red Lake Senior High School massacre Red Lake, Minnesota, United States March 21 2005 8 Campbell County High School shooting Jacksboro, Tennessee, United States November 8 2005 1 Pine Middle School shooting Reno, Nevada, United States March 14 2006 0 Essex Elementary School shooting[11] Essex, Vermont, United States August 24 2006 2 Orange High School shooting Hillsborough, North Carolina, United States August 30 2006 1 Platte Canyon High School shooting Bailey, Colorado, United States September 27 2006 2 Weston High School shooting Cazenovia, Wisconsin, United States September 29 2006 1 Amish school shooting Nickel Mines, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, United States October 2 2006 6 Henry Foss High School shooting Tacoma, Washington, United States January 3 2007 1 University of Washington shooting Seattle, Washington, United States April 2 2007 2 Virginia Tech massacre Blacksburg, Virginia, United States April 16 2007 32 Delaware State University shooting Dover, Delaware, United States September 21 2007 1 SuccessTech Academy shooting Cleveland, Ohio, United States October 10 2007 1 Louisiana Technical College shooting Baton Rouge, Louisiana, United States February 8 2008 3 Mitchell High School shooting Memphis, Tennessee, United States February 11 2008 0 E.O. Green School shooting Oxnard, California, United States February 12 2008 1 Northern Illinois University massacre DeKalb, Illinois, United States February 14 2008 6 Davidson High School Shooting Mobile, Alabama, United States March 9 2008 1 Central High School shooting Knoxville, Tennessee, United States August 21 2008 1 Henry Ford High School shooting Detroit, Michigan, United States October 16 2008 1 2008 University of Central Arkansas shootings Conway, Arkansas, United States October 27 2008 2 Dillard High School shooting Fort Lauderdale, Florida, United States November 12 2008 1 Henry Ford Community College shooting Dearborn, Michigan, United States April 10 2009 2 Wesleyan University1 Middletown, Connecticut, United States May 1 2009 1 Canandaigua Academy shooting Canandaigua, New York, United States May 5 2009 1 Harvard University Cambridge,Massachusetts, United States May 18 2009 1[12] Larose-Cut Off Middle School shooting Larose, Louisiana, United States May 18 2009 1 Skyline College shooting San Bruno, California, United States September 2 2009 0 Atlanta University Center Atlanta , Georgia, United States September 3 2009 1[13] Deer Valley High School shooting Antioch, California, United States September 16 2009 0 Northern Virginia Community College Woodbridge, Virginia, United States December 8 2009 0 Discovery Middle School Madison, Alabama, United States February 6 2010 1 [14] University of Alabama in Huntsville Huntsville, Alabama, United States February 12 2010 3 [15] Deer Creek Middle School Jefferson County, Colorado, United States February 23 2010 0[16] Birney Elementary School Tacoma, Washington, United States February 26 2010 1[17] Ohio State University Columbus, Ohio, United States March 9 2010 2[18] Canadian school shootings: Name Location Date Year Death toll Notes Altona schoolhouse shooting Altona, Manitoba, Canada October 10 1902 2 [19] Centennial Secondary School shooting Brampton, Ontario Canada May 28 1975 2 [20] St Pius X High School School Ottawa, Ontario, Canada October 27 1975 1 [21] École Polytechnique Massacre Montreal, Quebec, Canada December 6 1989 14 [22] Concordia University massacre Montreal, Quebec, Canada August 24 1992 4 [23] W. R. Myers High School shooting Taber, Alberta, Canada April 28 1999 1 [24] Dawson College shooting Montreal, Quebec, Canada September 13 2006 1 [25] C. W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada May 23 2007 1 [26] Bendale Business and Technical Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada September 16 2008 0[/QUOTE] Nice copy and paste. Yeah, we've already acknowledged that there are school shootings. We're just pointing out how stupid your post was because you implied it would never happen in Canada when it has happened. You can sit and point numbers and show numbers - but everyone will agree one innocent death is one to many. But banning weapons wouldn't prevent something like that from happening.

[QUOTE=Zombii;22224669]Let me put something in perspective for you: US Population: 309,374,000 Canada Population: 34,120,000[/QUOTE] Fine. Look at the number of school shootings in the USA in the last decade alone. Something is wrong. The United States has the largest number of gun-related deaths a year of any developed high-income nation. [editline]09:21PM[/editline] Let me clarify: Canada has these problems too. That was a stupid post I made before in stating it would never happen in Canada, because obviously it has. However, the gun culture in the USA is becoming problematic, as one can see from the statistics. More than half the shooting incidents in the USA happened in only the last ten years.

[QUOTE=archangel125;22224690]Fine. Look at the number of school shootings in the USA in the last decade alone. Something is wrong. The United States has the largest number of gun-related deaths a year of any developed high-income nation.[/QUOTE] Ok, other countries including the U.S have a lot of car related accidents and deaths. Lets ban cars.

[QUOTE=archangel125;22224690]Fine. Look at the number of school shootings in the USA in the last decade alone. Something is wrong. The United States has the largest number of gun-related deaths a year of any developed high-income nation.[/QUOTE] They're a lot of people and a lot of guns, legal and illegal. Crazy fucks will get them, and bad things will happen. Is it bad? Yes. Is it preventable? Sometimes. Is it something we need to take away millions of dollars worth of property from citizens? Not really.

You sad hillbillies, golfing can be fun and challenging in a group or by yourself.

[QUOTE=archangel125;22224643][LIST OF SHOOTINGS IN US AND CANADA][/QUOTE] Alright. 98 in America and 10 in Canada. Now consider that America has a population 9.06 times larger then Canada. 10 x 9 = 90 So if your population was equal to ours, we'd have had 8 more shootings, and guns are illegal in Canada.

[QUOTE=MR-X;22224707]Ok, other countries including the U.S have a lot of car related accidents and deaths. Lets ban cars.[/QUOTE] Tell me, are cars designed to kill people?

Golf is fucking super bland and I don't see how they have a channel when g4 is barely getting back on it's feet.

[QUOTE=archangel125;22224690]Fine. Look at the number of school shootings in the USA in the last decade alone. Something is wrong. The United States has the largest number of gun-related deaths a year of any developed high-income nation.[/QUOTE] We also have the world's third largest population, and I'm fairly sure we're one of, if not the biggest firearms manufacturing country(ies) in the world. I'm sorry, the more you talk, the stupider you sound.

[QUOTE=Gordy H.;22224713]Alright. 98 in America and 10 in Canada. Now consider that America has a population 9.06 times larger then Canada. 10 x 9 = 90 So if your population was equal to ours, we'd have had 8 more shootings, and guns are illegal in Canada.[/QUOTE] GUNS ARE NOT FUCKING ILLEGAL IN CANADA HOLY FUCK. When I turned 18, I bought a gun no problem. Two weeks of paper work and I had myself a hand gun. AT 18. HOLY FUCK. GUNS ARE NOT ILLEGAL.

[QUOTE=archangel125;22224643]Let me put this in perspective for you. The number at the end (not in brackets) represents how many died. US school shootings: [/QUOTE] Major population difference Another fantastic post by archangel

[QUOTE=archangel125;22224714]Tell me, are cars designed to kill people?[/QUOTE] No, but they sure as fuck can.

[QUOTE=archangel125;22224690] Let me clarify: Canada has these problems too. That was a stupid post I made before in stating it would never happen in Canada, because obviously it has. However, the gun culture in the USA is becoming problematic, as one can see from the statistics. More than half the shooting incidents in the USA happened in only the last ten years.[/QUOTE] At least you admitted you fucked up there, most of facepunch wouldn't. But still, i'm pretty sure the problem is still crazy people getting a hold of guns. Even if gun restrictions weren't as lenient, they would still be able to get an illegal one easily.

[QUOTE=archangel125;22224510]The DC sniper incident would totally have happened in a country like Canada, right? The VT school shooting? How about Columbine? Look at the bottom line.[/QUOTE] The guns used by the murderers in noted situations can be purchased upon getting a license in Canada, which from I hear isn't that hard to get, they could have just as easily have done it in Canada as they did in the US, the only exception is that in the Columbine massacre one was using a pistol that was illegal to buy in the US, but not Canada, it was perfectly legal in Canada, provided they have a license.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;22224736]GUNS ARE NOT FUCKING ILLEGAL IN CANADA HOLY FUCK. When I turned 18, I bought a gun no problem. Two weeks of paper work and I had myself a hand gun. AT 18. HOLY FUCK. GUNS ARE NOT ILLEGAL.[/QUOTE] My mistake, from archangels posts I was getting the impression that Canada was a gun-less utopia of peace.

[QUOTE=archangel125;22224714]Tell me, are cars designed to kill people?[/QUOTE] Not all guns are made to kill people like you said before. Like this: [IMG]http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/ssp_gross_2700000.jpg[/IMG] It's made for sport shooting, that's it. Can it kill someone still? Of course. Just like a Ferrari F1 car is made for racing but you can still run someone down with it.

[QUOTE=Gordy H.;22224763]My mistake, from archangels posts I was getting the impression that Canada was a gun-less utopia of peace.[/QUOTE] No, guns are just difficult to get here, red tape and what not.

[QUOTE=archangel125;22224690]Fine. Look at the number of school shootings in the USA in the last decade alone. Something is wrong. The United States has the largest number of gun-related deaths a year of any developed high-income nation. [editline]09:21PM[/editline] Let me clarify: Canada has these problems too. That was a stupid post I made before in stating it would never happen in Canada, because obviously it has. However, the gun culture in the USA is becoming problematic, as one can see from the statistics. More than half the shooting incidents in the USA happened in only the last ten years.[/QUOTE] Problematic, from what statistics? Perhaps they were only recent, and therefore the most accurate statistics?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;22224790]No, guns are just difficult to get here, red tape and what not.[/QUOTE] Still a fair bit better than the UK/EU though, right?

the argument hes giving is pretty much - people with easy access to guns will let them kill people easier so instead of banning guns lets have background checks on people to make sure they wont shoot up a school oh wait we already do that :synpa:

[QUOTE=Magistrate;22224805]the argument hes giving is pretty much - people with easy access to guns will let them kill people easier so instead of banning guns lets have background checks on people to make sure they wont shoot up a school oh wait we already do that[/QUOTE] Background checks don't really make a difference unless they're a repeat offender, in most cases the people who have shot up the schools had a clean slate as far as criminal record goes, making it perfectly fine for them to go out and buy a firearm, and at most places a background check isn't required to buy a rifle, just pistols.

Shooting is fun, golf isn't.

golf courses are a waste of land and resources- especially water- that are frequented by the bourgeoisie gun ranges are egalitarian and empower the disenfranchised to take action From a class perspective gun ranges are worth more than golf courses. In all seriousness though shit like PGA quality courses in places like Arizona are total wastes of water, and water availability is going to be a serious issue in the near future.

[QUOTE=Dysplasia;22224826]Background checks don't really make a difference unless they're a repeat offender, in most cases the people who have shot up the schools had a clean slate as far as criminal record goes, making it perfectly fine for them to go out and buy a firearm.[/QUOTE] yeah the system is pretty flawed, but removing guns from the legal market would still let someone get their hands on one. A new and dangerous illegal gun trade would hardly reduce crime

[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;22224861]golf courses are a waste of land and resources- especially water- that are frequented by the bourgeoisie gun ranges are egalitarian and empower the disenfranchised to take action From a class perspective gun ranges are worth more than golf courses. In all seriousness though shit like PGA quality courses in places like Arizona are total wastes of water, and water availability is going to be a serious issue in the near future.[/QUOTE] viva la revolution :ussr:

it's easy to co-opt conservatives into a socialist narrative if you just say "Liberals push for a gun ban, even though guns empower minorities and the disenfranchised to take action and overthrow the oppressor classes. Liberals are ivory-towered racists!" so long as it's pro-gun noone will care (it's also true)

Let me put this in perspective for you. Texas school shootings: University of Texas Massacre Austin, Texas, United States August 1 1966 14 Palo Duro High School shooting Amarillo, Texas, United States September 11 1992 0 Berkner High School shooting Richardson, TX, United States November 06 1992 1 Canadian school shootings: Altona schoolhouse shooting Altona, Manitoba, Canada October 10 1902 2 [19] Centennial Secondary School shooting Brampton, Ontario Canada May 28 1975 2 [20] St Pius X High School School Ottawa, Ontario, Canada October 27 1975 1 [21] École Polytechnique Massacre Montreal, Quebec, Canada December 6 1989 14 Concordia University massacre Montreal, Quebec, Canada August 24 1992 4 W. R. Myers High School shooting Taber, Alberta, Canada April 28 1999 1 Dawson College shooting Montreal, Quebec, Canada September 13 2006 1 C. W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada May 23 2007 1 Bendale Business and Technical Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada September 16 2008 0 Texas 24,782,302 Canadia 34,120,000

[QUOTE=Broseph_;22224939]Let me put this in perspective for you. Texas school shootings: University of Texas Massacre Austin, Texas, United States August 1 1966 14 Palo Duro High School shooting Amarillo, Texas, United States September 11 1992 0 Berkner High School shooting Richardson, TX, United States November 06 1992 1 Canadian school shootings: Altona schoolhouse shooting Altona, Manitoba, Canada October 10 1902 2 [19] Centennial Secondary School shooting Brampton, Ontario Canada May 28 1975 2 [20] St Pius X High School School Ottawa, Ontario, Canada October 27 1975 1 [21] École Polytechnique Massacre Montreal, Quebec, Canada December 6 1989 14 Concordia University massacre Montreal, Quebec, Canada August 24 1992 4 W. R. Myers High School shooting Taber, Alberta, Canada April 28 1999 1 Dawson College shooting Montreal, Quebec, Canada September 13 2006 1 C. W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada May 23 2007 1 Bendale Business and Technical Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada September 16 2008 0 Texas 24,782,302 Canadia 34,120,000[/QUOTE] And Texas probably has more guns then other state. Ironic.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;22224939]Let me put this in perspective for you. Texas school shootings: University of Texas Massacre Austin, Texas, United States August 1 1966 14 Palo Duro High School shooting Amarillo, Texas, United States September 11 1992 0 Berkner High School shooting Richardson, TX, United States November 06 1992 1 Canadian school shootings: Altona schoolhouse shooting Altona, Manitoba, Canada October 10 1902 2 [19] Centennial Secondary School shooting Brampton, Ontario Canada May 28 1975 2 [20] St Pius X High School School Ottawa, Ontario, Canada October 27 1975 1 [21] École Polytechnique Massacre Montreal, Quebec, Canada December 6 1989 14 Concordia University massacre Montreal, Quebec, Canada August 24 1992 4 W. R. Myers High School shooting Taber, Alberta, Canada April 28 1999 1 Dawson College shooting Montreal, Quebec, Canada September 13 2006 1 C. W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada May 23 2007 1 Bendale Business and Technical Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada September 16 2008 0 Texas 24,782,302 Canadia 34,120,000[/QUOTE] Now let's figure out how many people die in the entirety on the United States from school shootings.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;22224939]Let me put this in perspective for you. Texas school shootings: University of Texas Massacre Austin, Texas, United States August 1 1966 14 Palo Duro High School shooting Amarillo, Texas, United States September 11 1992 0 Berkner High School shooting Richardson, TX, United States November 06 1992 1 Canadian school shootings: Altona schoolhouse shooting Altona, Manitoba, Canada October 10 1902 2 [19] Centennial Secondary School shooting Brampton, Ontario Canada May 28 1975 2 [20] St Pius X High School School Ottawa, Ontario, Canada October 27 1975 1 [21] École Polytechnique Massacre Montreal, Quebec, Canada December 6 1989 14 Concordia University massacre Montreal, Quebec, Canada August 24 1992 4 W. R. Myers High School shooting Taber, Alberta, Canada April 28 1999 1 Dawson College shooting Montreal, Quebec, Canada September 13 2006 1 C. W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada May 23 2007 1 Bendale Business and Technical Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada September 16 2008 0 Texas 24,782,302 Canadia 34,120,000[/QUOTE] :iceburn: