Alleged 'street racer' surrenders after fatal hit-and-run in California, killing 2 - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Saza;47245215]and these hobbies include? I'm nearly positive someone has died, been injured, or been at risk as a result of something you consider a hobby if you lose traction it's possible to add some spin into the mix and that's how you go off a straight line[/QUOTE] It's really sad that you don't see the irresponsibility and foolish in engaging in an act that puts other people's lives at risk.

[QUOTE=FetusFondler;47243110] Oooh no, people have different taste in cars than me, better call them idiots Also "Real sports cars are AWD" is a load of shit, I can give you many examples of RWD "real sports cars", stop being an ass.[/QUOTE] Really though, most racecars are RWD. I'm an Audi fan and I love Quattro, but I can respect the many many RWD, and FWD cars.

[QUOTE=Saza;47245215]and these hobbies include? I'm nearly positive someone has died, been injured, or been at risk as a result of something you consider a hobby[/QUOTE] Whataboutism has no limits

[QUOTE=Saza;47245215]and these hobbies include? I'm nearly positive someone has died, been injured, or been at risk as a result of something you consider a hobby [/QUOTE] Yeah my 360 noscopes reck scrubs so hard they die irl.

why cant these people just go out into the middle of nowhere if they wanna race so damn bad. They obviously like to drive anyway.

[QUOTE=FetusFondler;47243110]Isn't drag racing supposed to be in a straight line? How do you fuck that up? [editline]2nd March 2015[/editline] Oooh no, people have different taste in cars than me, better call them idiots Also "Real sports cars are AWD" is a load of shit, I can give you many examples of RWD "real sports cars", stop being an ass.[/QUOTE] AWD is much better for putting power down in the right direction safely, simple physics. PM'ed for hilarious list of "sports cars"

[QUOTE=Subzero MP3Z;47240458]You're missing the part where he lacks a limited slip diff, one of his wheels lost all traction and free loaded and the other just pushed him into the crowd (he would of kept the accelerator WOT because he's super awesome). Real sports cars are AWD for a reason.... (sick of idiots thinking RWD cars are topshit) This dumbass deserves a murder charge, firstly losing control and keeping it at WOT then running away, keep this idiot locked up. [editline]2nd March 2015[/editline] Completely agree, but it seems by that video, street racing is a common thing? doesn't take much to speculate that there may be no track around?[/QUOTE] Yeah, show me how you came to the conclusion that he doesn't have a LSD, because anyone who wants to race their mustangs knows to get the 3.73 or 4.10 rear end, which comes standard as an LSD. The most likely answer as to why he crashed would be that he either didn't heat his slicks up enough, overheated them, or hit a patch of crap on the road, causing both wheels to spin. AWD is nice, but it's added weight that also makes the drivetrain more inefficient. While it is necessary in some types of racing, it would make other types slower, if not impossible. I'm not exactly sure there is a transfer case and front differential that can handle going form 0 to 300+ mph in 5 or less seconds without breaking.....

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47248066]Yeah, show me how you came to the conclusion that he doesn't have a LSD, because anyone who wants to race their mustangs knows to get the 3.73 or 4.10 rear end, which comes standard as an LSD. The most likely answer as to why he crashed would be that he either didn't heat his slicks up enough, overheated them, or hit a patch of crap on the road, causing both wheels to spin. AWD is nice, but it's added weight that also makes the drivetrain more inefficient. While it is necessary in some types of racing, it would make other types slower, if not impossible. I'm not exactly sure there is a transfer case and front differential that can handle going form 0 to 300+ mph in 5 or less seconds without breaking.....[/QUOTE] it would make other types slower, if not impossible. I'm not exactly sure there is a transfer case and front differential that can handle going form 0 to 300+ mph in 5 or less seconds without breaking..... This doesn't really apply to cars that are ever on the road, just drag cars with huge drag slicks on the back.

[QUOTE=Subzero MP3Z;47248098] This doesn't really apply to cars that are ever on the road, just drag cars with huge drag slicks on the back.[/QUOTE] And I've seen street cars with 1000+ HP who do drive on the streets that would fuck up a transfer case in a second, and that's not to mention the tiny front split axles you would have to have on an AWD car. I'm not going to pretend that RWD is the greatest thing ever, because AWD is better in a lot of cases. But just like there are applications where AWD is better, there are applications where RWD is better. For the type of driving you do, AWD might be better. For me, it's added drivetrain inefficiency, weight, and parts that could break that I don't need.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47248125]And I've seen street cars with 1000+ HP who do drive on the streets that would fuck up a transfer case in a second, and that's not to mention the tiny front split axles you would have to have on an AWD car. I'm not going to pretend that RWD is the greatest thing ever, because AWD is better in a lot of cases. But just like there are applications where AWD is better, there are applications where RWD is better. For the type of driving you do, AWD might be better. For me, it's added drivetrain inefficiency, weight, and parts that could break that I don't need.[/QUOTE] In this type, Street drag racing, AWD allows you to put a lot more power down, oh and 2000HP Nissan GTR's exist that don't break.

If the Mustang driver had a clue about how RWD vehicles work, everything would've been fine. I'm glad that the GT-R didn't get into trouble though.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;47239770]"This person is being retarded and is endangering other people. If he wants to race maybe he should find a track somewhere?!"[/QUOTE] I'd love more race tracks around my area, but to reach good ones, they are usually a really long and irritating drive to get to.

[QUOTE=Subzero MP3Z;47248169]In this type, Street drag racing, AWD allows you to put a lot more power down, oh and 2000HP Nissan GTR's exist that don't break.[/QUOTE] They do give you more traction out of the hole. I'm not denying that. But you said "physics" earlier, so let's talk about some simple physics: A RWD system has less parts, therefore less weight. Which vehicle will be quicker: more weight or less weight? A RWD power train has, on average, a 15-18% power loss through drivetrain due to friction, parasitic losses, and such. The average AWD power train has a loss of 20%-25%. So which one is losing less power? Like I said before, AWDs are better in a lot of aspects, but not in every aspect. It depends on the situation. A Tesla Model S can beat a lot of cars off the line due to its AWD, but like we saw with the corvette stingray, AWD won't stop a vehicle from walking around you in the top end. Also, I'm willing to put money on it that this guy had a 3.73 or 4.10 LSD rear end. Anyone who goes as far as to put a centrifugal supercharger and slicks is most likely going to upgrade to a taller rear end as well. Also, people need to realize that "going to the track" isn't always as easy as you think. First hurdle is finding a track that has heads up everyone welcome drag racing who will let you and your buddies compete amongst each other. I'm lucky, because there is one 10-15 miles from my house. But usually, they don't have heads up racing like that. The second hurdle is the rediculous regulations. It doesn't matter if it's your daily driver. Make a quick enough run and they won't let you back until you hack up your car to put a roll cage that costs several thousands of dollars. That's not counting the fact that the track can tell you to gtfo for not having a driveshaft loop, bell housing shield, or if your flywheel isn't made out of the right kind of material. The third hurtle is that you WILL break shit at the track that you wouldn't on the street. Tracks are "prepped", meaning the entire track is coated in a sticky material to help with traction. That's fine and dandy until you put too much power at once and instead of breaking traction like you would on the street, it breaks your rear end or snaps an axle instead. Instead of traction being the weakest link, your car is now. That's why things break a lot more on the track. I'm not trying to condone street racing. It's a stupid thing to do and very dangerous. But tracks don't make it easy for people who have modified DDs, if there is a nearby track at all.

[QUOTE=darunner;47241522]No respect here. He still fled the scene and didn't turn himself in for a few days.[/QUOTE] If I knew I was spending 20+ years in jail I'd take a few days to let everyone know and apologize for my crime + enjoy as much as possible before incarceration. He's still an incredibly virtuous man for owning his mistake and going to the police.

[QUOTE=Subzero MP3Z;47247918]AWD is much better for putting power down in the right direction safely, simple physics. PM'ed for hilarious list of "sports cars"[/QUOTE] Google is hard guise If I did actually form a list myself of "RWD race cars" you'd do some sort of nonsensical cherrypicking on what is or isn't a race car, because there really is no other reason as to why you'd say such false rubbish in the first place.

So apparently the guy who turned himself in, Henry Michael Gevorgyan, is the owner of the Mustang, what a surprise! He says he wasn't the one driving it though, what a surprise! If he says he doesn't know who was driving it, what surprise!

[QUOTE=upsideonion;47238274]i expected more cubeman jokes[/QUOTE] Did he actually do anything because I heard it was just the news source being retarded

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;47264623]So apparently the guy who turned himself in, Henry Michael Gevorgyan, is the owner of the Mustang, what a surprise! He says he wasn't the one driving it though, what a surprise! If he says he doesn't know who was driving it, what surprise![/QUOTE] Well, can they prove that HE was the driver, and not someone else who had access?

Latest update is another man, Israel "Izzy" Valenzuela, has been charged with murder along with the guy who turned himself in. Apparently they promoted this street race. No driver arrested yet.

One of them was in the popular reality tv shitfest known as Street Outlaws, about drag racing on the street.