Man kills a woman with machete, two more injured - Germany, Reutlingen - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Jimmyjohn;50766947]Is this going to be an occurrence every damn day?[/QUOTE] Already is, the only difference is that this is more local.

[QUOTE=Creatrick;50767566]Fun (not really) fact - terror attacks are now more common in Europe than in Israel. See this - [url]http://www.israelhasbeenterrorattackfreefor.com/[/url] Some say shitty times are still coming. I say they already came.[/QUOTE] To be fair, European countries probably haven't invested as much into anti terror as Israel has. Besides, Israel now is in a down period for terror attacks, it would be much more fair to look over the entire past year of terror attacks in Israel

[QUOTE=rndgenerator;50767613]Is SJW still a valid term unironically? You're Lithuanian, you could do better than just being a stuck up bigot. We can't just let thousands die because a few of them are violent.[/QUOTE] I don't know how to call these types of people so I used SJW for that. Too many times I was called by them a racist and a bigot after I voiced my negative view about refugee crisis and violent migrants so it annoys me. And yes, we can let that happen. Why? Because path to hell is paved with good intentions. Nothing good came out of this mess and because we can't protect our own citizens from these as you call "few out of thousand" killersso we might as well deter them from coming at all. I don't want to risk and get myself, my relatives, my friends get hurt by those "few out of thousand". I don't want to see police on every goddamn order, waiting for another stupid attack. This mess is a downward spiral that will destroy our way of life. We will live in fear only because we wanted to help. Syrian war is not our war. These are not our people and will never be. Theirs culture is not ours and no matter how we try to coexist we might never establish a total peace between us. Let them fight their own wars and build their own countries. I know it's a very unpopular opinion, but it's time for us to close borders completely and focus on second and third generation attackers.

Actually the good thing is a lot of people who would have died haven't, more so than people have died who wouldn't have, and we can protect our own citizens, security forces all over Europe are working as hard as they can to prevent things like this from happening and being ready to respond when it does.

Well let us hope so. Still, I fear we are hell bent on becoming similar to Israel.

[QUOTE=Creatrick;50767735]Well let us hope so. Still, I fear we are hell bent on becoming similar to Israel.[/QUOTE] i.e. safer for your citizens?

[QUOTE=DogGunn;50767748]i.e. safer for your citizens?[/QUOTE] I meant attacks that are common occurrence. Safety will never be guaranteed, as it isn't even in Israel. Also, things that we're not used to. See France - national emergency, troops in streets... Not that these are entirely bad things, but they show that we have a very serious problem most of Europe haven't faced for a long time.

[QUOTE=plunger435;50767627]"Single country has less terror attacks this week than multiple countries put together."[/QUOTE] That singular country has one of the worlds most active terrorist groups within its borders and is surrounded by countries on all borders that would like to do nothing more than destroy them (which also have active terrorist groups that also hate that singular country within their borders too). Yeah, we should totally move along. Nothing to see here.

This looks more like some sort of fight absolutely out of hand, both were probably in a relationship or at least close. There must have been an argument that caused him to go mental and into a rage.

[QUOTE=Creatrick;50767681] [B]Syrian war is not our war. These are not our people and will never be.[/B] Theirs culture is not ours and no matter how we try to coexist we might never establish a total peace between us. Let them fight their own wars and build their own countries. I know it's a very unpopular opinion, but it's time for us to close borders completely and focus on second and third generation attackers.[/QUOTE] You claim not to be a bigot, and let that bullshit pass your filters? I don't think you understand the meaning of the word.

[QUOTE=Creatrick;50767566]Fun (not really) fact - terror attacks are now more common in Europe than in Israel. See this - [url]http://www.israelhasbeenterrorattackfreefor.com/[/url] Some say shitty times are still coming. I say they already came.[/QUOTE] The times are shitty and they will be even more shitty because of all the criminals and terrorists that gotten into Europe because of politicians "feel good" politics just so they can pat eachother on the back and say how humanitarian they are. But fuck the people already living here, they are not even close to as important. The more they attack the more emboldened they will be to do more attacks. It is completely escalating now. Islamic terror attacks every day now. [QUOTE=Jimmyjohn;50766947]Is this going to be an occurrence every damn day?[/QUOTE] We can thank Merkel and the Politically Correctness mafia for this.

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50767913]The times are shitty and they will be even more shitty because of all the criminals and terrorists that gotten into Europe because of politicians "feel good" politics just so they can pat eachother on the back and say how humanitarian they are. But fuck the people already living here, they are not even close to as important.[/QUOTE] I think your viewpoint is very skewed if you think that providing refuge for hundreds of thousands of people escaping death, causing some inconveniences and a handful of horrible happenings like this one means the people already living here are not as important :v:

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50767913]The times are shitty and they will be even more shitty because of all the criminals and terrorists that gotten into Europe because of politicians "feel good" politics just so they can pat eachother on the back and say how humanitarian they are. But fuck the people already living here, they are not even close to as important. The more they attack the more emboldened they will be to do more attacks. It is completely escalating now. Islamic terror attacks every day now. We can thank Merkel and the Politically Correctness mafia for this.[/QUOTE] Hey now, these refugees are people and they have nowhere to go... [sp]/s[/sp]

[QUOTE=archangel125;50767849]You claim not to be a bigot, and let that bullshit pass your filters? I don't think you understand the meaning of the word.[/QUOTE] But he's not wrong. Syria [I]isn't[/I] Europe's war. They aren't European citizens. They're mostly displaced refugees from a civil war, not immigrants, and many of them are there to escape conflict, not to assimilate, which isn't inherently wrong. Europe is not obligated by any measure to take them all in. It's a moral duty to aid them until the conflict is resolved, but not at the cost of the well being of it's own citizens.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50767926]I think your viewpoint is very skewed if you think that providing refuge for hundreds of thousands of people escaping death, causing some inconveniences and a handful of horrible happenings like this one means the people already living here are not as important :v:[/QUOTE] So that excuses no screening of anyone crossing our borders and letting way to many people in to be sustainable? What about the people living here? Don't they have the right to live safe in their own countries? Do they deserve to be attacked every day now by islamic terror acts? But nooo the people getting killed are just "inconveniences" to you, that sentence alone shows you don't respect the people already living here. I think it is you who have a skewed viewpoint who think those that come here should have greater rights then the ones already living here. Disgusting.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;50767944]"Feel good" politics is the humanitarian aid that goes into Africa destroying local economies for humanitarian purposes. [editline]24th July 2016[/editline] Yes, everybody know they arent humans. Or do you suggest somewhere else?[/QUOTE] No I just find it funny that some of you Europeans try to defend the influx of refugees when there has been a clear increase in attacks within first world states. By refugees/extremists no less. [editline]24th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=MrJazzy;50767926]I think your viewpoint is very skewed if you think that providing refuge for hundreds of thousands of people escaping death, causing some inconveniences and a handful of horrible happenings like this one means the people already living here are not as important :v:[/QUOTE] Ok, go tell this woman's family her death was an inconvenience. How about the Paris victims as well? We can also do the Nice victims. When there is a clear fucking cause and effect you shouldn't put your own god damn people at risk in the name of moral superiority.

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50767966]So that excuses no screening of anyone crossing our borders and letting way to many people in to be sustainable? What about the people living here? Don't they have the right to live safe in their own countries? Do they deserve to be attacked every day now by islamic terror acts? But nooo the people getting killed are just "inconveniences" to you, that sentence alone shows you don't respect the people already living here. I think it is you who have a skewed viewpoint who think those that come here should have greater rights then the ones already living here. Disgusting.[/QUOTE] The people who already live here has as much of a right to live safely as the refugees, and nobody deserves to be attacked by islamic terror acts. And no, being being killed aren't just "inconveniences" but I assume that it is inconveniences that make people like you to want closed borders because you seriously can't think that recent death of europeans is reason enough to neglect and indirectly kill thousands, potentially hundreds of thousands non-europeans.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50767989]The people who already live here has as much of a right to live safely as the refugees, and nobody deserves to be attacked by islamic terror acts. And no, being being killed aren't just "inconveniences" but I assume that it is inconveniences that make people like you to want closed borders because you seriously can't think that recent death of europeans is reason enough to neglect and indirectly kill thousands, potentially hundreds of thousands non-europeans.[/QUOTE] You know, generally your country and your people come first. When the dog bites the hand that feeds then its time to get rid of it.

[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50767974]No I just find it funny that some of you Europeans try to defend the influx of refugees when there has been a clear increase in attacks within first world states. By refugees/extremists no less. [editline]24th July 2016[/editline] Ok, go tell this woman's family her death was an inconvenience. How about the Paris victims as well? We can also do the Nice victims.[/QUOTE] Those events (and this one) are what I was referring to when I say a handful of horrible happenings, not inconveniences. [editline]24th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50767996]You know, generally your country and your people come first. When the dog bites the hand that feeds then its time to get rid of it.[/QUOTE] People are people no matter what nation they're from.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50768002]Those events (and this one) are what I was referring to when I say a handful of horrible happenings, not inconveniences. [editline]24th July 2016[/editline] People are people no matter what nation they're from.[/QUOTE] Again, moral superiority. Its generally a good idea to take care of one's self before others. I want the funny ratings back.

[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50768022]Again, moral superiority. Its generally a good idea to take care of one's self before others. I want the funny ratings back.[/QUOTE] I don't see how my argument is moral superiority and yours isn't. How many non-europeans have to die before it's no longer worthwhile to refuse taking in refugees to save a few lives in your own country? Genuine question, I'd like to hear some reasoning.

[QUOTE=archangel125;50767849]You claim not to be a bigot, and let that bullshit pass your filters? I don't think you understand the meaning of the word.[/QUOTE] So you say we should involve ourselves into all the conflicts in middle east? That only fuels the problem you know. And the curious thing is that only us are supposed to the moral obligation to help them, while some of their closest cultural neighbors, like Saudi Arabia, accepts almost no refugees. Haven't heard of refugee camps there, despite their wealth could easily support them. Meanwhile, migrants flock to Europe and many just refuse to integrate or at least not act like assholes. By saying that they are not our people I meant this.

This shit is out of control.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50768037]I don't see how my argument is moral superiority and yours isn't. How many non-europeans have to die before it's no longer worthwhile to refuse taking in refugees to save a few lives in your own country? Genuine question, I'd like to hear some reasoning.[/QUOTE] What makes the lives of these refugees more valuable than that of Europeans? I'm of the idea that one should protect their own first. This isn't some numbers game. If you go out and help a bum and they only partially maim you do you continue to help them?

[QUOTE=Recurracy;50767657]You gotta be fucking kidding me. Of course you're gonna help people in need. Most of the refugees don't even have a home to go to, let alone the town they used to live in...[/QUOTE] Why is it suddenly Western Europe's responsibility to take in people from these countries just because they can't keep their country in one piece?

[QUOTE=Coffee;50768088]Why is it suddenly Western Europe's responsibility to take in people from these countries just because they can't keep their country in one piece?[/QUOTE] Arguing about who's responsibility it is doesn't help, it's irrelevant. Saudi Arabia should take in refugees, absolutely. That doesn't mean europe shouldn't, though. [editline]24th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50768087]What makes the lives of these refugees more valuable than that of Europeans? I'm of the idea that one should protect their own first. This isn't some numbers game. If you go out and help a bum and they only partially maim you do you continue to help them?[/QUOTE] The lives of these refugees aren't more valuable than that of europeans, not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that way more people will die by refusing to take in refugees than by taking in refugees.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50768095]Arguing about who's responsibility it is doesn't help, it's irrelevant. Saudi Arabia should take in refugees, absolutely. That doesn't mean europe shouldn't, though.[/QUOTE] This whole argument in general doesn't help anything, you dodged the question. If you're being fucked up by a bad choice, you generally take actions to mitigate its effects.

[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50768104]This whole argument in general doesn't help anything, you dodged the question. If you're being fucked up by a bad choice, you generally take actions to mitigate its effects.[/QUOTE] We're not fucked tho

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50768109]We're not fucked tho[/QUOTE] I didn't say "fucked" I said fucked up, synonym for injured, hurt, whatever you want to call it you know what I mean.

[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50768112]I didn't say "fucked" I said fucked up, synonym for injured, hurt, whatever you want to call it you know what I mean.[/QUOTE] What can I say then, we are doing our best to deal with the complications and damage that come up??