Man kills a woman with machete, two more injured - Germany, Reutlingen
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[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50768116]What can I say then, we are doing our best to deal with the complications and damage that come up??[/QUOTE]
That's nice, but to reiterate Coffee's statement. Why is it Europe's responsibility to do so?
Which is in effect the same as asking why continue to help at great personal loss?
[QUOTE=morky;50767454]Another fighting aged male refugee thats done harm to people in Europe, but please don't pay attention to this because theres Neo Nazis, and they are a much bigger threat![/QUOTE]
That is sickening and I sincerely hope people are just as disgusted as I am by this fucking post.
There is so much death right now. People are fleeing from a war killing so, so many children, women and men.
How can you ever, EVER equivalent a comparison between NEO NAZIS and REFUGEES? Are you KIDDING ME?
Do you seriously believe that people like this man warrants a huge fucking generalization of tormented people fleeing from a fucking war?
[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50768124]That's nice, but to reiterate Coffee's statement. Why is it Europe's responsibility to do so?
Which is in effect the same as asking why continue to help at great personal loss?[/QUOTE]
Well, Europe is relatively peaceful and safe and it's population is doing pretty well for themselves so it makes sense that there should be an effort from Europe's part to help out people. Even if it isn't Europe's responsibility, that doesn't mean refugees won't come to Europe, actively stopping them may do so but that requires a great effort aswell and probably isn't very ethical, nor very good long-term. And because the great personal loss doesn't come anywhere close to the positives of saving lots of lives.
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768141]That is sickening and I sincerely hope people are just as disgusted as I am by this fucking post.
There is so much death right now. People are fleeing from a war killing so, so many children, women and men.
How can you ever, EVER equivalent a comparison between NEO NAZIS and REFUGEES? Are you KIDDING ME?
Do you seriously believe that people like this man warrants a huge fucking generalization of tormented people fleeing from a fucking war?[/QUOTE]
He never drew an equivalency between refugees and neo-Nazis, get a grip and stop being so melodramatic.
[QUOTE=srobins;50768160]He never drew an equivalency between refugees and neo-Nazis, get a grip and stop being so melodramatic.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, speaking against people having a shitty numb mentality [B]regularly generalizing refugees [/B] all the time, yeah sure I'll be melodramatic for you.
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768141]That is sickening and I sincerely hope people are just as disgusted as I am by this fucking post.
There is so much death right now. People are fleeing from a war killing so, so many children, women and men.
How can you ever, EVER equivalent a comparison between NEO NAZIS and REFUGEES? Are you KIDDING ME?
Do you seriously believe that people like this man warrants a huge fucking generalization of tormented people fleeing from a fucking war?[/QUOTE]
You're overreacting.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50768095]Arguing about who's responsibility it is doesn't help, it's irrelevant. Saudi Arabia should take in refugees, absolutely. That doesn't mean europe shouldn't, though.
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Surely Israel should be taking in refugees too since they're right next to Syria?
[QUOTE=Coffee;50768180]Surely Israel should be taking in refugees too since they're right next to Syria?[/QUOTE]
That too.
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768141]That is sickening and I sincerely hope people are just as disgusted as I am by this fucking post.
There is so much death right now. People are fleeing from a war killing so, so many children, women and men.
How can you ever, EVER equivalent a comparison between NEO NAZIS and REFUGEES? Are you KIDDING ME?
Do you seriously believe that people like this man warrants a huge fucking generalization of tormented people fleeing from a fucking war?[/QUOTE]
You know he's making a jab at the pro-migrants people who are trying to paint recent islamic terrorism in europe as some minor problem compared to neo-nazis right? He didn't come up with this "comparison".
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;50768203]You know he's making a jab at the pro-migrants people who are trying to paint recent islamic terrorism in europe as some minor problem compared to neo-nazis right? He didn't come up with this "comparison".[/QUOTE]
It was completely uncalled for
[QUOTE=Coffee;50768180]Surely Israel should be taking in refugees too since they're right next to Syria?[/QUOTE]
Seeing that Europe has failed to integrate the refugees into its population, why should Israel do that?
Better question, why should Israel flood itself with economic migrants and undercover IS operatives?
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;50768203]You know he's making a jab at the pro-migrants people who are trying to paint recent islamic terrorism in europe as some minor problem compared to neo-nazis right? He didn't come up with this "comparison".[/QUOTE]
Yes.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;50768203]You know he's making a jab at the [B]pro-migrants people[/B] who are trying to paint [B]recent islamic terrorism in europe[/B] as some minor problem compared to neo-nazis right? He didn't come up with this "comparison".[/QUOTE]
What does that have to do with refugees as a whole? They are fleeing from the same terrorism? And I hope you agree that Islam doesn't correlate with terrorism, if you are about to say that profiling refugees because of their religion is a good idea. War, conflicts and oppression creates that.
Sorry but one should really be more specific when you are making "a jab" at pro-migrants people. Why is being pro to people migrating a bad thing deserving of a jab by the way, with a comparison like that?
[QUOTE=RzDat;50768215]Seeing that Europe has failed to integrate the refugees into its population, why should Israel do that?
Better question, why should Israel flood itself with economic migrants and undercover IS operatives?[/QUOTE]
[I]"Because they'e people"[/I]
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50768214]It was completely uncalled for[/QUOTE]
Okay? I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying he wasn't equating refugees to nazis.
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[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768220]What does that have to do with refugees as a whole? They are fleeing from the same terrorism? And I hope you agree that Islam doesn't correlate with terrorism, if you are about to say that profiling refugees because of their religion is a good idea. War, conflicts and oppression creates that.[/QUOTE]
Because ISIS terrorists came to europe posing as refugees hidden among actual refugees.
Also are you trying to imply here that recent influx of terrorism in europe has nothing to do with recent mass immigration from middle east?
[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50768222][I]"Because they'e people"[/I][/QUOTE]
No they're not, they're definitely not people, especially not the innocent majority
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50768249]No they're not, they're definitely not people, especially not the innocent majority[/QUOTE]
Said nobody ever.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;50768226]
Because ISIS terrorists came to europe posing as refugees hidden among actual refugees.
Also are you trying to imply here that recent influx of terrorism in europe has nothing to do with recent mass immigration from middle east?[/QUOTE]
Okay, so what? And how many Daesh terrorists found out of every single person seeking refuge in Europe exactly? Please convince me how they pose a genuine threat to Europe, like compared to the middle east where the majority of this terrorism occurs?
I don't care if even one terrorist snuck if that meant saving twenty thousand men, women and children fleeing for their life. Because they do not correlate.
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768220]What does that have to do with refugees as a whole? They are fleeing from the same terrorism? And I hope you agree that Islam doesn't correlate with terrorism, if you are about to say that profiling refugees because of their religion is a good idea. War, conflicts and oppression creates that.
Sorry but one should really be more specific when you are making "a jab" at pro-migrants people. Why is being pro to people migrating a bad thing deserving of a jab by the way, with a comparison like that?[/QUOTE]
Calm down mooe, if you go read my original post again you'll see theres no comparison
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768274]Okay, so what? And how many Daesh terrorists found out of every single person seeking refuge in Europe exactly? Please convince me how they pose a genuine threat to Europe, like compared to the middle east where the majority of this terrorism occurs?
I don't care if even one terrorist snuck if that meant saving twenty thousand men, women and children fleeing for their life. Because they do not correlate.[/QUOTE]
Random question: how many refugees do you have staying with you? Surely you've opened up a guest room or sofa for the refugees you clearly care so much about?
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768220]What does that have to do with refugees as a whole? They are fleeing from the same terrorism? And I hope you agree that Islam doesn't correlate with terrorism, if you are about to say that profiling refugees because of their religion is a good idea. War, conflicts and oppression creates that.[/QUOTE]
Profiling refugees on religion is actually a good idea. Putting Islamic and Christian and/or LGBT refugees together is a recipe for disaster. The minority refugee group, be it Christians or LGBT groups, get threatened in western refugee camps by the muslim refugees for their faith or sexual orientation. It happened more than enough times here. We eventually had to place Christian refugees and LGBT refugees in housing away from the muslim refugees since they got death threats from them. Those so-called refugees, who threaten other refugees for their faith or sexual orientation, don't seem to respect other people at all, even if we are helping them out so much by taking their worthless, ungrateful asses in. We are giving them a chance to live, only for them to spit in our faces and at our norms and values. Some of them only seem to care about our money instead of actual safety.
And rest assured, our patience has about ran out in the last year. Keeping those troublemaker groups around, like the perpetrator in this case, who had several arrests on his person in the one year he was in Europe, in the hopes that they will ever integrate and will ever contribute anything to our countries apart from their worst habits, is just plain fucking delusional.
[QUOTE=srobins;50768282]Random question: how many refugees do you have staying with you? Surely you've opened up a guest room or sofa for the refugees you clearly care so much about?[/QUOTE]
What? What the ever bloody hell does that have to do with anything? Sure is a random question. Answer me this random question: Do I actually need to literally feed starving people by myself to care about them?
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768274]Okay, so what? And how many Daesh terrorists found out of every single person seeking refuge in Europe exactly? Please convince me how they pose a genuine threat to Europe, like compared to the middle east where the majority of this terrorism occurs?
I don't care if even one terrorist snuck if that meant saving twenty thousand men, women and children fleeing for their life. Because they do not correlate.[/QUOTE]
You sound like you already forgot about the attacks in Nice, Paris and Brussels.
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768274]Okay, so what? And how many Daesh terrorists found out of every single person seeking refuge in Europe exactly?[/QUOTE]
I don't really understand the question. How many of the people claiming to be refugees were found out to be terrorists? Enough for there to be a terrorist attack every week?
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768274]Please convince me how they pose a genuine threat to Europe[/QUOTE]
Don't you read the papers?
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768274]like compared to the middle east where the majority of this terrorism occurs?[/QUOTE]
Yeah lets compare 1st world countries at peace with a warzone in 3rd world. And if the number of deaths is higher in the latter, it's only a good thing in the grand scheme of things to equate it a bit. Right? Really stupid comparison man.
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768274]I don't care if even one terrorist snuck if that meant saving twenty thousand men, women and children fleeing for their life. Because they do not correlate.[/QUOTE]
How about having some screening program for the refugees so at least some of the terrorists posing as refugees are caught? But no, lets open the borders and do not check anyone. That's not going to have any negative consequences.
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768306]What? What the ever bloody hell does that have to do with anything? Sure is a random question. Answer me this random question: Do I actually need to literally feed starving people by myself to care about them?[/QUOTE]
You PRETEND to care. You want to have the impression of being a decent person while doing jack fucking shit apart from moral grandstanding. You would be platinum mad too if the Swedish government dumps a few hundred or thousand refugees in your district without even decently informing you. And rest assured, even the most pro-refugee politicians and civilians make sure to keep those refugee camps as far away from their homes as possible. It's just so hypocritical from them. They want other people to pay for their moral grandstanding, yet when they get caught up in it themselves, they start weaselling out of it with all their might. Lemme tell you, how many refugees have all those celebrities taken into their homes like they promised last year? I bet it is still fucking zero.
[QUOTE=RzDat;50768317]You sound like you already forgot about the attacks in Nice, Paris and Brussels.[/QUOTE]
You sound like you already forgot about attacks like [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-has-executed-more-than-4000-people-in-under-two-years-of-the-islamic-state-in-syria-a7007876.html]Daesh having executed more than four thousand people in Syria over the course of two years[/url].
And then keep on ignoring that people are actually fleeing from this. Jesus.
[QUOTE=OvB;50767357]Does that count as two murders? I think it does in the US.[/QUOTE]
In a U.S court of law, the person who killed the woman would be charged with two counts of murder, yes.
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768306]What? What the ever bloody hell does that have to do with anything? Sure is a random question. Answer me this random question: Do I actually need to literally feed starving people by myself to care about them?[/QUOTE]
To have such a condescending holier-than-thou attitude about such a complicated issue I would hope you had actually done something about it, but apparently not.
[QUOTE=Mooe94;50768343]You sound like you already forgot about attacks like [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-has-executed-more-than-4000-people-in-under-two-years-of-the-islamic-state-in-syria-a7007876.html]Daesh having executed more than four thousand people in Syria over the course of two years[/url].
And then keep on ignoring that people are actually fleeing from this. Jesus.[/QUOTE]
What does this have to do with what I said?
If you think that importing a shitload of immigrants from the middle east is safe even though there are terrorists among them, then you're proven wrong by these attacks.
[QUOTE=RzDat;50768387]What does this have to do with what I said?
If you think that importing a shitload of immigrants from the middle east is safe even though there are terrorists among them, then you're proven wrong by these attacks.[/QUOTE]
But you see, by taking them out of their homelands we reduce the deaths among them. :downs:
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