Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders (& others) finally face off - Polidicks

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Chaffy: "I always vote wrong but I regret it".

that webb line would've killed at the republican debate lol

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48897700]Chaffy: "I always vote wrong but I regret it".[/QUOTE] Thats like saying "I started WW3 but i regret it..."

I like the cut of this O'Malley guy's jib. Can't say he's my favorite to run, but good speech.

[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;48897693]Obama tried that. Didn't work.[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter. United we stand, divided we fall. Our country is heading towards a disaster if this for-us-or-against-us attitude gets worse. Also if you think Obama was elected as a unifier you're kidding yourself.

Bernie had a bit of a shakey start but managed to finish strong

Clinton's closing statement is putting me asleep

check it out berniesanders.com forever and ever we got t-shirts we got stickers come check us out thank you bernie sanders for president

and always twirling, twirling towards freedom. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CCh9sk-9l4[/media]

now the polls

A little off-topic but I wanna say, the new star system made this thread really interesting with no negative ratings. Personally I like it, more of a consensus than a way of giving an opinion without a post.

Missed the start of the debate. Did Hilary go overtime on that closing?

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48897750]Missed the start of the debate. Did Hilary go overtime on that closing?[/QUOTE] Hilary went overtime every time she got the chance to talk.

hah, sanders is shaking hands with the audience

CNN seems to be shilling hillary

I missed the ending. :(

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[QUOTE=lyna;48897766]CNN seems to be shilling hillary[/QUOTE] what a surprise the establishment want the establishment candidate.

[QUOTE=lyna;48897766]CNN seems to be shilling hillary[/QUOTE] I hope it has the opposite effect.

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[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;48897770][img]http://i.imgur.com/b4tsEgY.png[/img][/QUOTE] I have a feeling the bernie hype train hijacked this one. Good.

Oh, speaking time at the end for Sanders.

[QUOTE=OvB;48897716]Doesn't matter. United we stand, divided we fall. Our country is heading towards a disaster if this for-us-or-against-us attitude gets worse. Also if you think Obama was elected as a unifier you're kidding yourself.[/QUOTE] Would you trust the Republicans to work with us at this point, though? For the past several years, they've done nothing but be contrarian and obstruct everything they can and what they can't, screw it up as it goes through. I'm not saying "if you're not with us, you're against us", I'm saying, "if you're not with us, then stay the hell out of the way." I don't want us to sit around waiting while those backwards-ass slimeballs do everything in their power to stall any change until they're done with their life of comfort and in the ground.

Literally all Bernie did was rotate out through "The millionaire class 1/10 of the 1% are bad" "Other countries do X and it works, we should do X", and "the way we need to treat the environment needs to be fixed." I can't really think about many times he didn't fall back to that. Those are all good things to talk about, but everyone already knows he is for those things. I'm not criticizing the ideals he has, I'm criticizing the way he's campaigning and the way he presents himself. This was an extraordinarily large chance to sound off on some ideas he's been quiet on- but he bounced around spouting the same idealistic rhetoric he has been throughout his whole campaign. He doesn't seem to have the chops to be a strong leader, nor the desire to be. We've had quiet, fairly passive presidents before. He doesn't seem to even fall in that, if it isn't one of the special issues he's focused on, he doesn't even seem to want to have any part of it. When your job handles much more than those few interests, you need to have more to contribute to than that. I wanted this to solidify my opinion of Bernie. It just proved my worries about his chances and opinions. I'm not worried about how he stands with democrats- I'm worried about how he can stand up to conservatives in a real election.

aaaa the hope is real

[QUOTE=evilweazel;48897792] I'm not criticizing the ideals he has, I'm criticizing the way he's campaigning and the way he presents himself. This was an extraordinarily large chance to sound off on some ideas he's been quiet on- but he bounced around spouting the same idealistic rhetoric[/QUOTE] Its not pie in the sky bs. You're the richest country in the world and much poorer countries have already accomplished what he is proposing.

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;48897770][img]http://i.imgur.com/b4tsEgY.png[/img][/QUOTE] Pretty sure most people think hilary was a lot closer to sanders

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48897803]Its not pie in the sky bs. You're the richest country in the world and much poorer countries have already accomplished what he is proposing.[/QUOTE] Jesus, read. I agree with what he is saying. I want the same things as he does with all of his social policies. Sticking to those select few topics and social policies and not even having an opinion on anything besides them is going to gut him. I'm not saying this because I don't like Bernie, I'm saying these things because I think he's the best democrat for his party, but seems to be opening himself up to getting hammered in the future.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;48897792]Literally all Bernie did was rotate out through "The millionaire class 1/10 of the 1% are bad" "Other countries do X and it works, we should do X", and "the way we need to treat the environment needs to be fixed." I can't really think about many times he didn't fall back to that. Those are all good things to talk about, but everyone already knows he is for those things. I'm not criticizing the ideals he has, I'm criticizing the way he's campaigning and the way he presents himself. This was an extraordinarily large chance to sound off on some ideas he's been quiet on- but he bounced around spouting the same idealistic rhetoric he has been throughout his whole campaign. He doesn't seem to have the chops to be a strong leader, nor the desire to be. We've had quiet, fairly passive presidents before. He doesn't seem to even fall in that, if it isn't one of the special issues he's focused on, he doesn't even seem to want to have any part of it. When your job handles much more than those few interests, you need to have more to contribute to than that. I wanted this to solidify my opinion of Bernie. It just proved my worries about his chances and opinions. I'm not worried about how he stands with democrats- I'm worried about how he can stand up to conservatives in a real election.[/QUOTE] He has repeatedly said he never wanted to be president, he never had a burning desire waking up in the morning to become president. I still think he's the best choice. IF NOT ONLY because ALL the other candidates are worse.