iPhone no longer the best selling smartphone of all time...for now - Polidicks

[QUOTE=FlashFireSix;38394720]That's because recently Google stepped up their game with android, with JB and ICS, I'd say the S3 will be updated for a few years more at least, now that android is (slowly) getting optmized But yeah, the 3GS may be running iOS6 but I know for a fact that it's not perfectly smooth as iOS is supposed to be, and my iPod touch from the same year is running 4.something at a slow rate, and was basically abandoned as soon as the new iPod touch came out (Sorry your device requires iOS 5+ to run this app!) Honestly I was surprised at the 3GS still being catered to, it feels the nicest to hold out of the iPhone line (smooth back) so props to them for that.[/QUOTE] Not sure about your iPod not being updated, I'd have to look and see why it got dropped. The entire reason the 3GS does have slowdowns in some areas is because of RAM limitations. That being said, I've heard many reports from users that it actually runs better on iOS 6 than it did on iOS 5. It's still smoother than your average Android device. It's EOL now though, it won't be getting the next major update.

[QUOTE=Kaabii;38394744]Your iPod Touch has 1/2 the RAM. The entire reason the 3GS does have slowdowns in some areas is because of RAM limitations. That being said, I've heard many reports from users that it actually runs better on iOS 6 than it did on iOS 5. It's still smoother than your average Android device. It's EOL now though, it won't be getting the next major update.[/QUOTE] Yeah but whereas my iPod touch is now dead, and useful only as a paperweight, 2009 android devices still function fine today, yeah not on the latest software but all the apps run and open, everything works fine (as fine as you can get on gingerbread, anyway)

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;38394756]The Nexus one had too little internal memory to take the ICS update anyway. It should have ran just about as well as my Nexus S, they have similar ish specs. I personally don't consider none-AOSP devices Android phones, they just happen to have the dalvik JVM installed on them. I'd never buy one anyway.[/QUOTE] I'd agree with you, and apparently some of Google's employees do too. [url]http://www.androidcentral.com/why-you-ll-never-have-latest-version-android[/url] [quote]A few months back, Google’s Vic Gundotra made a post on Google+, singing the praises of his new Nexus 7 tablet, along with an attached photo. When followers asked him what he used to take the picture, he replied in very precise, deliberate language -- it was taken on his “Android-based Galaxy S3.” Gundotra’s wording illuminates a crucial distinction between Nexus and “Google Experience” devices, and the Samsung, HTC and Motorola-branded phones that dominate the walls of most stores. Android is what’s released by Google. Once manufacturers get hold of it, the end product is Android-based. There’s stuff in there that Google doesn’t directly control, meaning it’s no longer just “Android.”[/quote]

Sometimes I wonder what iOS would be like if it was treated the same as android, with there being "official" pure iOS devices such as the iPhone, but also other companies producing iOS devices, I can imagine Nokia would be able to do it very well from what they do with windows phones.

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;38394818]It would have been turned into a massive shit-stain like Android has been. Except Apple would have the balls to start banning exceptionally shit devices from their services.[/QUOTE] The exceptionally shit ones are the budget ones, where the devs don't want to write a new OS for the phone and just slam android onto it. making a very affordable phone. Yeah you're right Apple wouldn't let their prized OS be devalued because of budget devices.

Its not like Google can really help the fact that Android is on cheap devices at this point, with the OS being open source 'n all :v: Though at the same time they should stop letting manufacturers sell budget devices running Gingerbread with full Play story access

Fron the Wii post icon, I was suddenly scared that Nintendo had come out with a smartphone without me knowing:v:

[QUOTE=FlashFireSix;38394833]The exceptionally shit ones are the budget ones, where the devs don't want to write a new OS for the phone and just slam android onto it. making a very affordable phone. Yeah you're right Apple wouldn't let their prized OS be devalued because of budget devices.[/QUOTE] Why are there exceptionally shit ones is the question I must pose.. It seems all android platform phone developers have their flagships and their shit devices, which are simply out there to crook users, then phase them out quickly and take advantage of the next line of people..

[URL="http://www.facepunch.com/member.php?u=30566"]Someone's[/URL] butthurt is showing. [QUOTE=Amiga OS;38394906]Open source is a nice idea and all, but handing out a commercial product which you want to build a brand around fully opened up for everyone to wreck is a horrible idea.[/QUOTE] No, it needs a [I]"Google certified"[/I] program for devices which are receiving updates over a set period of time after no more devices of that model are being manufactured (say 2 years for "bronze" certification, 3 years for "silver" and so on) and is guaranteed to provide a smooth user experience. oterwise we'd never see a [URL="http://www.cnx-software.com/2011/01/07/a-pico-projector-and-android-in-a-light-bulb/"]bulb[/URL], a [URL="http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/11/10/444-smartbeam-android-4-0-media-player-projector-powered-by-telechips-tcc8925/"]projector[/URL] or maybe even a microwave oven running it.

Google really needs to set standards are minimum specs for android. I myself have a galaxy s running 4.1.2, and it works fine, but it didnt get updated over 2.3. The cheap phones are what gives the impression android is laggy and slow.

[QUOTE=SCopE5000;38395093]Why are there exceptionally shit ones is the question I must pose.. It seems all android platform phone developers have their flagships and their shit devices, which are simply out there to crook users, then phase them out quickly and take advantage of the next line of people..[/QUOTE] Do you even think before you speak? seriously while me and the other people above were having an educated discussion you burst into everything spewing opinionated bullshit. Just stop posting.

I still have my iPhone 4s, not planning to get anything else. Also, what's so important with the hardware in the phone? It's not like your going to run Crysis or anything. It's just a phone.

[QUOTE=werrek;38395395]I still have my iPhone 4s, not planning to get anything else. Also, what's so important with the hardware in the phone? It's not like your going to run Crysis or anything. It's just a phone.[/QUOTE] better specs means bigger penis from what people act like. Sure im getting myself a nexus 4, but i need a new phone and the nexus 4 isnt exactly expensive

[QUOTE=SCopE5000;38393905]Well go run it in any browser you want? Prove to yourself that your device uses it's awesome quad-core to it's fullest extent in rendering some simple HTML5 canvases? The fact that their are different browsers means nothing. They're using the same libraries and using the same processes no matter what they name it or how it's styled. The lackluster processing issue lies in the Kernel or HAL.[/QUOTE] Wrong [img]http://www.imgur.com/aeBwk.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Rika-chan;38396219]Wrong [img]http://www.imgur.com/aeBwk.png[/img][/QUOTE] Scope's getting schooled at his own cherrypicked benchmark? Wow [IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/emot-haw5.gif[/IMG] talk about a burn.

[QUOTE=W0w00t;38390055]i talk to limes too sometimes[/QUOTE]I'm fairly certain i've seen you in my local supermarket shouting at the cabbages, as well.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;38396387]I'm fairly certain i've seen you in my local supermarket shouting at the cabbages, as well.[/QUOTE] Potato potatoe, tomato tomatoe eh?

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;38396387]I'm fairly certain i've seen you in my local supermarket shouting at the cabbages, as well.[/QUOTE] Funny, I saw scope in the produce aisle kissing apples

What are the performance issues in the SGIII? I'm a user who has used both and I haven't found any faults in them.

[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;38396681]What are the performance issues in the SGIII? I'm a user who has used both and I haven't found any faults in them.[/QUOTE] The S3 is honestly the best Android device I've ever used. But stuff like scrolling when the phone is still loading in stuff like pictures in a list can stutter, and Android in general is awful for any sort of touch interaction when network data is being loaded. Also most apps aren't as good performance wise compared to iOS(and WP7 if it has a given app) counterparts. Dunno whether to attribute it to Dalvik being not as polished as it could be, or devs who primarily make obj-C apps for iOS not being as great at making Java apps for Android. Probably a mix of both.

[QUOTE=Kaabii;38396827]Dunno whether to attribute it to Dalvik being not as polished as it could be, or devs who primarily make obj-C apps for iOS not being as great at making Java apps for Android. [B]Probably a mix of both.[/B][/QUOTE] Google should focus on branching out Native Code instead of further spitshining Dalvik. There's only [I]that much[/I] you can do with a Java wannabe, and while it provided a decent starting platform in Android's infant days, it's one of the biggest (or rather smallest) bottleneck now.

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;38397127]Isn't there a build of android that runs C# apps? That would be incredible to use instead of java.[/QUOTE] XobotOS.

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[QUOTE=Amiga OS;38397127]Isn't there a build of android that runs C# apps? That would be incredible to use instead of java.[/QUOTE] Eww, C derivative maintained (and thus practically owned) by Microsoft. I'd rather wait a additional year for one based on C++.

[QUOTE=Van-man;38397233]Eww, C derivative maintained (and thus practically owned) by Microsoft. I'd rather wait a additional year for one based on C++.[/QUOTE] you can accomplish things with C# in about 10 lines of what 80 lines of C++ can do, especially when it comes to strings of course coding in C# is useless if it's not CLR which on Android I wouldn't bet money on it

[QUOTE=Protocol7;38397818]you can accomplish things with C# in about 10 lines of what 80 lines of C++ can do, especially when it comes to strings of course coding in C# is useless if it's not CLR which on Android I wouldn't bet money on it[/QUOTE] C# is an incredibly neat language, it basically tramples all over the charred remains of Java as well.

This thread makes my brain hurt. I have a Galaxy S1 with Android 4.1. Don't tell me Android runs like shit on old devices. It runs better with 4.1 than it did with stock rom.

[QUOTE=Woovie;38398661]This thread makes my brain hurt. I have a Galaxy S1 with Android 4.1. Don't tell me Android runs like shit on old devices. It runs better with 4.1 than it did with stock rom.[/QUOTE] Blame scope having his head up his ass

[QUOTE=Protocol7;38397818]you can accomplish things with C# in about 10 lines of what 80 lines of C++ can do, especially when it comes to strings of course coding in C# is useless if it's not CLR which on Android I wouldn't bet money on it[/QUOTE] Microsoft would either throw a hissyfit, or call in their lawyers. C or C++ is the best bet, or Google could make their own spin-off of it, centered at app development for mobile platforms and [I]"the cloud"[/I] If Microsoft and Apple could, the Google can too. Though I honestly would like to see a attempt with Assembly, just for kicks :v: [QUOTE=Rika-chan;38398735]Blame scope having his head up his ass[/QUOTE] shit coming out of all his body's openings

[QUOTE=Woovie;38398661]This thread makes my brain hurt. I have a Galaxy S1 with Android 4.1. Don't tell me Android runs like shit on old devices. It runs better with 4.1 than it did with stock rom.[/QUOTE] Performance has definitely increased. I had a Samsung Moment, and it came with 1.5. By the time there was a 2.2 rom for it, it was time to get a new phone, but they felt about the same, except for games.