It's a shame the kid died but the cops did the right thing.
15 years old in 8th grade isn't odd. Most people turn 14 in 8th grade, unless their birthday is in the summer, most likely the kid's birthday was late in the year, so he'd have to wait another year before starting kindergarten, so he'd be a year older than the average.
Atleast shoot him in the goddamn knee, don't try to kill the guy.
Or get another officer to tackle him from the back so nobody gets hurt.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34057424][B]YOU DON'T FUCKING GUN DOWN A FUCKING PERSON THAT'S NOT FUCKING FIRING IN ANY FUCKING WAY.
[/B]Could've tased him at the very most, Jesus fucking Christ.[/QUOTE]
Real life isn't like DooM, smuggy.
Wow, this kid must've been some super wannabe gung-ho gangsta badass motherfucker, insisting to point a toy gun at a bunch of cops pointing real guns at him and not trying to play it safe and drop the fucking thing. What a dork.
What a suicidal idiot.
Either that, or he wanted to go out with a bang.
Atleast students, teachers and cops will have something to talk about.
[QUOTE=nivek;34058020]Everyone says "kids fault"...
...I say parents fault.[/QUOTE]
Kids (especially teenagers) are fully capable of independent thought. Families are not hive minds.
all pellet/airsoft guns require orange tips specifically so that they can be differentiated from between real firearms
maybe the cops were color blind
[editline]5th January 2012[/editline]
oops just realized he took off the orange tip
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34057424][B]YOU DON'T FUCKING GUN DOWN A FUCKING PERSON THAT'S NOT FUCKING FIRING IN ANY FUCKING WAY.
[/B]Could've tased him at the very most, Jesus fucking Christ.[/QUOTE]
Dumbest post of 2012?
This kid was a fucking idiot. Even warned on multiple occasions and didn't put it down.
Suicide-by-cop almost.
[QUOTE=Tippmann357;34058137]The semi/auto selector switch on the slide shows it's airsoft. Actual Glocks don't have those, at least not for that model. But obviously you can't tell the difference unless you are physically looking at it from 2 feet away.[/QUOTE]
The Glock 18 has a fire selector on the slide.
[img]http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/attachments/f33/28154d1304456775-questions-regarding-glock-18s-bolt-action-rifles-glock-18-01.jpg[/img]
While it's sad that the kid died, what the police did was definitely justified
[QUOTE=Aspen;34057422]i can't sympathize. he first was stupid enough to bring a realistic looking pellet gun (that happens to look like a glock) to a school, and then aims it at cops?
deserved it.[/QUOTE]
I know that the kid isn't innocent in this, and the cops did what they had to do, but saying a kid "deserved" to die is horrible, in any case.
[QUOTE=MitchvW;34061149]Atleast shoot him in the goddamn knee, don't try to kill the guy.
Or get another officer to tackle him from the back so nobody gets hurt.[/QUOTE]
this post is so stupid it hurts to read it.
It was the kid's fault, but I don't think he deserved to die. There could've been a better way of dealing with that rather killing him.
Also 15 years old and an 8th grader? wat :v
[QUOTE=MitchvW;34061149]Atleast shoot him in the goddamn knee, don't try to kill the guy.
Or get another officer to tackle him from the back so nobody gets hurt.[/QUOTE]
By the time you had a cop in position to do an EXTREMELY RISKY maneuver like that, the kid could have already opened fired and killed several people. Also, what if during the tackle he fires a shot off, or he some how gets away from the tackle and shoots the officer.
Also, shooting in the knee? Getting shot doesn't necessarily make you neutralized. Especially in that situation, with as much adrenaline as that kid had running through his body. He would have been hit in the knee, fired a couple shots off and then fallen to the ground. And probably could have gotten a few poorly aimed shots off while on the ground.
It amazes me how stupid people are when it comes to people with firearms. Just look at the story posted the other day about the guy getting shot while chasing down a robber. He CONTINUED CHASING HIM AND AFTER BEING SHOT A SECOND TIME DECIDED TO STOP CHASING.
These situations are always tricky, I always think youngsters with firearms should be sedated. In all honesty I haven't really heard of any teens going on a mass rampage with a pellet gun, never mind a real one. I took a real knife into school once and didn't get suspended when I got caught, yet this kid got shot and killed for a pellet gun. [i]Bullshit.[/i]
Clearly the answer is replace the entire police force with all the people on the internet who think that it's reasonable to make "disabling shots" on criminals who point a gun at you.
Starting with everyone rating this post dumb.
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;34063237]Clearly the answer is replace the entire police force with all the people on the internet who think that it's reasonable to make "disabling shots" on criminals who point a gun at you.[/QUOTE]
Does him having a fake gun and punching someone in the nose make it right for him to be shot dead?
[QUOTE=Erasus;34063271]Does him having a fake gun and punching someone in the nose make it right for him to be shot dead?[/QUOTE]
No. Pointing said fake gun at another human being was why the police had to take action.
But I'm sure you'd like to think that you would just wait for someone who is pointing a gun at you to open fire first.
[QUOTE=Erasus;34063271]Does him having a fake gun and punching someone in the nose make it right for him to be shot dead?[/QUOTE]Considering they had no knowledge that the gun was fake, and had told him more than once to drop the weapon, yes.
The funniest part is that the cops will have to live with the thoughts of their actions for the REST OF THEIR LIVES! HAHA SO FUNNY
[QUOTE=Erasus;34063183]These situations are always tricky, I always think youngsters with firearms should be sedated. In all honesty I haven't really heard of any teens going on a mass rampage with a pellet gun, never mind a real one. I took a real knife into school once and didn't get suspended when I got caught, yet this kid got shot and killed for a pellet gun. [i]Bullshit.[/i][/QUOTE]
so if it turned out to be a real gun and he shot a load of classmates then its fine because for all the police knew it was a pellet gun? if someones retarded enough to bring a replica gun into a school in a country where guns seem fairly easy to get hold of then it's no wonder he was shot
[QUOTE=Gareth;34063480]so if it turned out to be a real gun and he shot a load of classmates then its fine because for all the police knew it was a pellet gun? if someones retarded enough to bring a replica gun into a school in a country where guns seem fairly easy to get hold of then it's no wonder he was shot[/QUOTE]
Ah yeah, true. They are fairly easy to get, fair enough. :smile:
And yeah, if they did tell him repeatedly to put it down, he kinda deserved it, I just feel sorry for them especially when they probably meant no harm. You would put it down when there was police involved, mind.
[QUOTE=Erasus;34063183]These situations are always tricky, I always think youngsters with firearms should be sedated. In all honesty I haven't really heard of any teens going on a mass rampage with a pellet gun, never mind a real one. I took a real knife into school once and didn't get suspended when I got caught, yet this kid got shot and killed for a pellet gun. [i]Bullshit.[/i][/QUOTE]
So just because something hasn't happened before you think you should just pretend like it never will?
Also, I don't know if you know anything about schools, but there have been several shootings at schools killing several people. Guns at school are no laughing matter.
Here, read.
2000s - Present
2000–2001 (19 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2001–2002 (4 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2002–2003 (14 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2003–2004 (29 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2004–2005 (20 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2005–2006 (5 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2006–2007 (38 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2007–2008 (3 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2008–2009 (10 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
2009–2010 (5 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
That is just the 2000s...
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting[/url]
scroll around. Then you realize why a kid with a gun at a school is taken so seriously.
[QUOTE=Erasus;34063183]These situations are always tricky, I always think youngsters with firearms should be sedated. In all honesty I haven't really heard of any teens going on a mass rampage with a pellet gun, never mind a real one. I took a real knife into school once and didn't get suspended when I got caught, yet this kid got shot and killed for a pellet gun. [i]Bullshit.[/i][/QUOTE]
When you got caught with the knife, did you put it away or hand it over? Or did you continue to hold onto it and threaten people like a maniac?
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;34063544]When you got caught with the knife, did you put it away or hand it over? Or did you continue to hold onto it and threaten people like a maniac?[/QUOTE]
I didn't hand it over, I kept it, it meant something to me, so..
But I didn't threaten people, no.
[editline]5th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Squad;34063524]proof im a tit[/QUOTE]
Okay, fair enough.
Natural selection. Dumb fuck points realistic BB gun at police; he gets what he should have seen coming.
[QUOTE=Chrille;34060722]He deserved to be shot to death for pointing a toy gun at police officers? Yes, it was the natural outcome of the situation, but he didn't fucking deserve it.[/QUOTE]
He should have known better. While it's not good that he is dead, he did deserve it.
The officers were right on preventing harm on themselves by opening fire - even though it was an 8th grader - in a situation like this you don't have time to think about the weapon your opponent is holding. I couldn't blame the police officers for doing the right thing, whether it's a fake gun or not. If he's pointing a gun into the face of anyone, he's gotta know what's coming for him - and if not - he deserves it.
[QUOTE=Erasus;34063183]These situations are always tricky, I always think youngsters with firearms should be sedated. [B]In all honesty I haven't really heard of any teens going on a mass rampage with a pellet gun, never mind a real one.[/B] I took a real knife into school once and didn't get suspended when I got caught, yet this kid got shot and killed for a pellet gun. [i]Bullshit.[/i][/QUOTE]
ever heard of the virginia tech massacre?
how about columbine?
allow me to refresh your memory.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cknMpRJp38o[/media]
also, you didn't threaten anyone with the knife or a police officer.
Rubber bullets please police.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.