Israeli navy 'intercepts' Rachel Corrie Gaza aid ship
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[QUOTE=johnlukeg;22385609]Are you seriously arguing that the food limits are reasonable?[/QUOTE]
I can put up a white flag on a ship, write peace all over it, pretend to bring in food, yet have loads of weapons cache hidden while trying my best to avoid heading to a certain port.
Face it, like someone else said, these "activists" just want to be famous for trying to show the world that "Israel is weak and can't manage their own laws".
[QUOTE=HighdefGE;22385643]I can put up a white flag on a ship, write peace all over it, pretend to bring in food, yet have loads of weapons cache hidden while trying my best to avoid heading to a certain port.
Face it, like someone else said, these "activists" just want to be famous for trying to show the world that "Israel is weak and can't manage their own laws".[/QUOTE]
Have there been weapons found? No, unless you count knives from the kitchen gallery and construction equipment.
Of course the activists want to be brought to attention, one of the main motives besides brining AID is to call attention to a blockade thats been called illegal by Amnesty International, the UN, the ICJ and condemned by the world.
There were high suspicions that weapons would be found on board.
Edit:
Again, the UN didn't officially say that the blockade was illegal.
[QUOTE=HighdefGE;22385643]Face it, like someone else said, these "activists" just want to be famous for trying to show the world that "Israel is weak and can't manage their own laws".[/QUOTE]
I don't see how that helps in their media wars. If Israel is incompetent and they are smuggling weapons in, that would probably raise support for Israel to help stop the attacks. If they are trying to make it look like Israel are evil Nazis and they are the victims, Israel loses support and they get more powerful.
If they were bringing in weapons, it would just be to attack Israel. No hidden agenda there.
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;22385689]a blockade thats been called illegal[/QUOTE]
Not at all.
[QUOTE=HighdefGE;22385772]Not at all.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539363,00.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=HighdefGE;22385772]Not at all.[/QUOTE]
right people never called it illegal...
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/01/un-security-council-israel-blockade_n_595610.html[/url]
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539363,00.html[/url]
Israel isn't bound legally to accept the security council's decisions. "The council may "recommend appropriate procedures or methods of adjustment" if it determines that the situation might endanger international peace and security. These recommendations are not binding on UN members."
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council#Role[/url]
So the UN security council cannot decide whether a blockade is illegal or not, but can only "recommend" or "suggest" that it is.
Also I couldn't find any other source verifying the huffingtonpost's article, I found 2 other news outlets who said something about it but they only quoted the huffingtonpost's words.
So the fact that the world thinks you're committing a war crime and is begging you to stop doesn't faze you as long as they can't legally do anything about it?
No, I am deeply concerned with the fact, and am sorry the world thinks that we are committing a war crime, which we are not.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22386062]No, I am deeply concerned with the fact, and am sorry the world thinks that we are committing a war crime, which we are not.[/QUOTE]
They think that for a good reason
But they are still wrong.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22386081]But they are still wrong.[/QUOTE]
I think it is you who is wrong.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22386062]No, I am deeply concerned with the fact, and am sorry the world thinks that we are committing a war crime, which we are not.[/QUOTE]
Well, I think we've boiled it down far enough. Your opinion of Israel isn't going to change any time soon.
[QUOTE=Hypothermic;22386099]I think it is you who is wrong.[/QUOTE]
You are welcome to try and prove it.
[QUOTE=johnlukeg;22386102]Well, I think we've boiled it down far enough. Your opinion of Israel isn't going to change any time soon.[/QUOTE]
It's like talking to a Texan about the Iraq War
Ofc israel want to check the boat, it might be filled with mortar rounds or shit like t hat. Lets just hope no islamic people on the boat goes apeshit again.
It's not a war crime. It may be a human rights violation through not taking care of a population you are supposed to be responsible for, but it's not a war crime.
According to Israeli media, the IDF has decided to not take aggressive action this time, and it seems that there aren't any terrorist supporters on the ship either, so nothing bad should happen.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22386148]According to Israeli media, the IDF has decided to not take aggressive action this time, and it seems that there aren't any terrorist supporters on the ship either, so nothing bad should happen.[/QUOTE]
Don't call them terrorist supporters. Really, don't.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;22386196]Don't call them terrorist supporters. Really, don't.[/QUOTE]
I am basing myself on valid evidence:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk&feature=related[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSAxAj2KIdU&feature=channel[/media]
Well...
Seems those two were right about the effects of being killed by Israelis. The whole world's paying attention all of a sudden because of the deaths. Wanting to be killed to send their message isn't an ideology I could ever support, though.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;22384996]This sounds terrible, but Israel thinks that since it suffered from the Holocaust 60 years ago they're justified in doing whatever they want.
Do you guys know about the west bank? How they're stealing land? Does it not matter? No one seems to care.[/QUOTE]
No, that's pretty much what's happening. My family is jewish and I'm the only one that doesn't think they're right for what they're doing, and when I ask them to back up their claim they avoid answering
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22386062]No, I am deeply concerned with the fact, and am sorry the world thinks that we are committing a war crime, which we are not.[/QUOTE]
Oh wow, it all makes since now. I didn't know you were from Israel.
BurnEmDown is a nationalist.
Yeah, play the nationalist card.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;22384892]Do they hate Palestinians that bad?
Do they realize if they let aid in and treat Palestinians like people, then co-exist peacefully side-by-side, Hamas has absolutely no ammunition and have the media attack them instead?[/QUOTE]
No, they will never co-exist... no matter what they will always hate each other
BTW Latest Israeli media says: "IDF demanded the boat to stop, activists ignored."
[url]http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/idf-gaza-bound-ship-rachel-corrie-ignores-order-to-stop-1.294265[/url]
The cement will be used to create rocks that will be thrown at the Israelis. It's too dangerous to pass the blockade!
No, they will be used for building bunkers or tunnels from which the Hamas would smuggle weapons.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22386888]Yeah, play the nationalist card.[/QUOTE]
Hey, if the cap fits, wear it.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22386943]No, they will be used for building bunkers or tunnels from which the Hamas would smuggle weapons.[/QUOTE]
Got any more biased 1 minutes video clips for your "evidences"?
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