Israeli navy 'intercepts' Rachel Corrie Gaza aid ship - Polidicks

[QUOTE=ThePuska;22387314]I'm not a nationalist, I care neither for my own country nor Israel, yet I would gladly stop eating fresh meat to prevent someone from being fired at with rockets I expect no less from others[/QUOTE] Well then stop talking and move to Gaza, see how easy it is to live in a bombed out fuckhole with not enough food or clothing while under the rule of an extremist sect. And don't you dare complain.

[QUOTE=Relys;22387337]Way to speak for thousands of impoverished starving people on an issue which was way oversimplified.[/QUOTE] Starving people live on frozen meat as well

[QUOTE=Hick2;22387346]What is your nationality Mr. Scorpio?[/QUOTE] American. [editline]07:45AM[/editline] [QUOTE=ThePuska;22387352]Starving people live on frozen meat as well[/QUOTE] Way to ignore, play down, and compartmentalize the issue. "Pft, why is that woman bitching about being raped? I wouldn't complain about being pulled into an alley. Whiner."

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22387360]Way to ignore, play down, and compartmentalize the issue. "Pft, why is that woman bitching about being raped? I wouldn't complain about being pulled into an alley. Whiner."[/QUOTE] The example given was specifically the ban of fresh meat. I did not ignore or play it down.

Wait, so you guys are arguing over the fact that Gazans only get frozen meat, not fresh? Or am I missing something here?

Yeah it seems that only allowing frozen meat is causing them to starve and goes against human rights

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22387360]American. [/QUOTE] So you have Poor, impoverished nation all over the joint in Central America, and yet your Nation does Fuck all. I am not saying the UK is any better, I mean we ruled empire, at a rough stance some of the time. But at least we helped them out. Plenty of Food? Plenty of Money? How about you go to Gaza yourself and hand the Hamas materials yourself.

[QUOTE=ThePuska;22387395]The example given was specifically the ban of fresh meat. I did not ignore or play it down.[/QUOTE] [quote]I'm not a nationalist, I care neither for my own country nor Israel, yet I would gladly stop eating fresh meat to prevent someone from being fired at with rockets I expect no less from others[/quote] Like hell you didn't.

[QUOTE=Relys;22387337]Way to speak for thousands of impoverished starving people on an issue which was way oversimplified.[/QUOTE] OK let me try and correct that: "If it comes to the security of your people and country or the option for the people of another nation who's government is acting for the direct annihilation of your country to get the following: sage cardamom coriander ginger jam halva vinegar nutmeg chocolate fruit preserves seeds and nuts biscuits and sweets potato chips gas for soft drinks dried fruit fresh meats plaster tar glucose industrial salt plastic/glass/metal containers industrial margarine tarpaulin sheets fabric (for clothing) flavor and smell enhancers fishing rods fishing nets buoys ropes nylon netting for greenhouses hatcheries and spare parts for hatcheries spare parts for tractors dairies for cowsheds irrigation pipe systems planters (for saplings) heaters musical instruments size A4 paper (letter/legal size) writing implements notebooks toys razors sewing machines horses donkeys goats cattle chicks while they receive 171 tons of humanitarian aid each week, most people would still choose the security of their people and country." Oh and let's not forget that the Hamas would just take all humanitarian aid that is considered luxurious, like say, all the stuff mentioned above.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22387411]Like hell you didn't.[/QUOTE] I understand the value of good, fresh meat, but there's nothing at all wrong with the taste or nutritional value of frozen meat. Why is it such a problem to you?

[QUOTE=Hick2;22387410]So you have Poor, impoverished nation all over the joint in Central America, and yet your Nation does Fuck all. I am not saying the UK is any better, I mean we ruled empire, at a rough stance some of the time. But at least we helped them out. Plenty of Food? Plenty of Money? How about you go to Gaza yourself and hand the Hamas materials yourself.[/QUOTE] Are you honestly trying to tell me that there is no difference between a nation that is poor and a nation that is poor because it has been consciously boxed and starved?

[QUOTE=Hick2;22387410]So you have Poor, impoverished nation all over the joint in Central America, and yet your Nation does Fuck all. I am not saying the UK is any better, I mean we ruled empire, at a rough stance some of the time. But at least we helped them out. Plenty of Food? Plenty of Money? How about you go to Gaza yourself and hand the Hamas materials yourself.[/QUOTE] We spent billions of dollars a year on supplying food and medicine to South American countries. Drug runners in South America have been known to kill our soldiers, but we don't blockade an entire country over it.

[QUOTE=ThePuska;22387427]I understand the value of good, fresh meat, but there's nothing at all wrong with the taste or nutritional value of frozen meat. Why is it such a problem to you?[/QUOTE] Good god you people are impossible. I mean, there's "breaking down a brick wall using your dick" impossible, and then there's explaining basic facts to you people impossible. I'm sick of having to reiterate myself every fucking time one of your people's brains goes for a nice afternoon stroll. Have fun shitting all over a million innocent people.

[QUOTE=Gordy H.;22387431]We spent billions of dollars a year on supplying food and medicine to South American countries. Drug runners in South America have been known to kill our soldiers, but we don't blockade an entire country over it.[/QUOTE] Did the south American drug runners attack your country's soil and worked as a part of their country's government? Like a government planned attack?

Thing is you are there and sadly accidents happen. I'll admit that the accidental shooting of a Farmer by the US because his wife planted some stuff that looked e.g.Poppy-Like. Happens less often than a house bulldozed by the Israelis because they acted like Hamas.

[QUOTE=Gordy H.;22387405]Wait, so you guys are arguing over the fact that Gazans only get frozen meat, not fresh? Or am I missing something here?[/QUOTE] Some random guy: *Insert example of meat* BurnEmDown: *Oversimplifies example* Mr. Scorpio: *Argues why the specific ban is stupid.* BurnEmDown: "Well, ok. But I don't care about their needs because their a different nationality and it's for my security" Me: "You're a nationalist" BurnEmDown: * blatant denial* Mr. Scorpio: *insert more examples of BurnEmDown being a nationalist* //You enter

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22387467]Did the south American drug runners attack your country's soil and worked as a part of their country's government? Like a government planned attack?[/QUOTE] Well did America steal the country, kick out the ingenious population and deny them of one the most basic rights of human life; the right to return?

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22387467]Did the south American drug runners attack your country's soil and worked as a part of their country's government? Like a government planned attack?[/QUOTE] They poison them with drugs. Good point anywho.

[QUOTE=starpluck;22387488]Well did America steal the country, kick out the ingenious population and deny them of one the most basic rights of human life; the right to return?[/QUOTE] indigenous* And yes, I think that's how America was founded, though I don't know if it has anything to do with drug wars

[QUOTE=starpluck;22387488]Well did America steal the country, kick out the ingenious population and deny them of the most basic rights of human life; the right to return?[/QUOTE] Was the country previously occupied by America's enemies who's acts of aggression drew American preemptive attacks which has led to the aforementioned "stealing of the country"?

"Sand is not so bad, you just gotta ketchup it up a little." - Benjamin "The Shake Master" Netanyahu

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22387510]Was the country previously occupied by America's enemies who's acts of aggression drew American preemptive attacks which has led to the aforementioned "stealing of the country"?[/QUOTE] What I'm talking about has nothing to with the 1967 war, stop trying to change the subject.

[QUOTE=Relys;22387481]Some random guy: *Insert example of meat* BurnEmDown: *Oversimplifies example* Mr. Scorpio: *Argues why the specific ban is stupid.* BurnEmDown: "Well, ok. But I don't care about their needs because their a different nationality and it's for my security" Me: "You're a nationalist" BurnEmDown: * blatant denial* Mr. Scorpio: *insert more examples of BurnEmDown being a nationalist* //You enter[/QUOTE] I never said I didn't care about their needs, I just said that my country's (and mine too specifically, they have rockets that could reach my town) security is more important than their right to have whatever was in the last post. [editline]10:59AM[/editline] [QUOTE=starpluck;22387527]What I'm talking about has nothing to with the 1967 war, stop trying to change the subject.[/QUOTE] Oh I thought we were talking about Gaza, have we not?

[QUOTE=starpluck;22387488]Well did America steal the country, kick out the ingenious population and deny them of one the most basic rights of human life; the right to return?[/QUOTE] America has killed more Civilians in wars since 1948 than Israel ever will. Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan, Korea (Thousands dead in Seoul).

[QUOTE=Hick2;22387547]America has killed more Civilians in wars since 1948 than Israel ever will. Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan, Korea (Thousands dead in Seoul).[/QUOTE] that was a long time ago and they said they're sorry

Stop blaming america for crimes of israel.

I'm curious to hear what you think is going to happen in the future, BurnEmDown. Surely you don't believe the blockade is a sustainable policy...

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22387530]I never said I didn't care about their needs, I just said that my country's (and mine too specifically, they have rockets that could reach my town) security is more important than their right to have whatever was in the last post. [editline]10:59AM[/editline] Oh I thought we were talking about Gaza, have we not?[/QUOTE] The conflict has a lot of branches to it, that's like we're arguing over the justification of the Iraq war, then you bring up something from the declaration of Independence.

[QUOTE=starpluck;22387557]The conflict has a lot of branches to it, that's like we're arguing over the justification of the Iraq war, then you bring up something from the declaration of Independence.[/QUOTE] Well you've brought up something unrelated, since we are talking specifically about Gaza.

[QUOTE=ThePuska;22387551]that was a long time ago and they said they're sorry[/QUOTE] "Oh hey dudes sorry [B]WE ARE STILL HERE AND KILLING ANOTHER CIVILIAN EVERY OTHER DAY[/B] Iraq was a lot better of under Saddam. Arguably the Taliban ruled better aswell (Not well, but at least the people were Happier bar the kites)