omg he shudda got more! i'm a gay baby!
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[QUOTE=gerbils_alt;17203769]RAPE - LIFE
Animal Abuse- LIFE
Murder- LIFE
Child abuse- Death penalty.?[/QUOTE]
your logic is severely flawed
[QUOTE=Lankist;17201167]I'd much rather see fifty dogs strung and beaten than an infant.[/QUOTE]
Now I see why your reputation is why it is.
[QUOTE=skparagon;17204922]Now I see why your reputation is why it is.[/QUOTE]
Umm, because I don't like baby torture?
[QUOTE=Lankist;17204970]Umm, because I don't like baby torture?[/QUOTE]
No, because you're closed minded, and obviously have no affection for animals or anyone other than yourself..
I feel bad for the dog, but the guy obviously has a problem.
Tend to the problem, don't string him up in a tree and beat him.
How will that teach him a lesson?
[QUOTE=Lankist;17187012]No it fucking isn't. I can't even believe someone would say something like that.[/QUOTE]
Your dog loves you and thinks you will always protect him. Betraying that trust and doing something like this makes me sick.
[QUOTE=skparagon;17204977]No, because you're closed minded, and obviously have no affection for animals or anyone other than yourself..[/QUOTE]
If I had no affection for anyone but myself wouldn't I be entirely okay with equating baby torture to animal abuse?
What kind of fucked up logic is that? Are you going to compare KFC to the holocaust next?
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[QUOTE=maniac;17205032]Your dog loves you and thinks you will always protect him. Betraying that trust and doing something like this makes me sick.[/QUOTE]
It's a dog.
Babies aren't.
I hope none of you ever have children.
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I just don't understand the logic of saying "No wonder nobody likes you, you hate baby torture!!"
[QUOTE=Lankist;17205400]
It's a dog.
Babies aren't.
I hope none of you ever have children.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying torturing a baby isn't as bad as torturing a dog, I'm just agreeing with the above point that torturing a baby is somewhat like torturing a dog because they are both trusting and innocent. And a situation where the tortured is completely loyal, trusting and innocent a certain chord is struck in someone's soul and they are absolutely sickened by the torturer.
[QUOTE=maniac;17206351]I'm not saying torturing a baby isn't as bad as torturing a dog, I'm just agreeing with the above point that torturing a baby is somewhat like torturing a dog because they are both trusting and innocent.[/QUOTE]
No.
You see dogs and babies on an equal level.
You think babies are equal to dogs.
In terms of torture, you see torturing a baby AS BAD as torturing a dog. Not worse, like it fucking is. AS BAD.
That is fucking psychotic. Honestly what the fuck is wrong with you?
[quote]I'm not saying torturing a baby isn't as bad as torturing a dog[/quote]
I obviously didn't say that torturing a baby is as bad as torturing a dog.
I'm just saying that they both fall into the same area of destroying the trust and innocence of someone or something.
[QUOTE=maniac;17206408]I obviously didn't say that.
I'm just saying that they both fall into the same area of destroying the trust and innocence of someone or something.[/QUOTE]
No they don't.
They do not fall into the same area of anything.
Abusing a dog is abusing a dog.
TORTURING A BABY is TORTURING A BABY
The two are NOTHING alike.
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Namely because one is a dog, and the other is a BABY
In some aspects they are.
And I never said abusing a dog. The man in the Op tortured the animal.
[QUOTE=maniac;17206428]In some aspects they are.[/QUOTE]
No, they aren't. Not at all.
You are comparing infants to animals.
You are fucking crazy.
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[QUOTE=maniac;17206428]The man in the Op tortured the animal.[/QUOTE]
Torture is defined as physical pain with the intent of extracting information. The OP can call it torture but the law calls it animal abuse.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17204582]Is not justice.
[/QUOTE]
Never said it was.
[QUOTE=Doriol;17206463]Never said it was.[/QUOTE]
So then you think governments should just base their judicial system on bloodlust and vengeance.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17206469]So then you think governments should just base their judicial system on bloodlust and vengeance.[/QUOTE]
The opposite.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17206451]No, they aren't. Not at all.
You are comparing infants to animals.
You are fucking crazy.
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Torture is defined as physical pain with the intent of extracting information. The OP can call it torture but the law calls it animal abuse.[/QUOTE]
Then I suppose the word torture should be thrown out of the argument altogether because an infant holds no information.
[QUOTE=Doriol;17206481]The opposite.[/QUOTE]
Then under what justification do you impose Eye-for-an-Eye standards on a crime?
Unless you are a proponent for vigilantism, in which case you aren't worth the time.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17206510]Then under what justification do you impose Eye-for-an-Eye standards on a crime?
[/QUOTE]
I said eye for an eye facetiously.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17206451]
Torture is defined as physical pain with the intent of extracting information. The OP can call it torture but the law calls it animal abuse.[/QUOTE]
I'm arguing from a moral standpoint and in my eyes that is torture and I don't really care what the law defines it as.
Kenny Glenn's successor, except with dogs.
[QUOTE=maniac;17206508]Then I suppose the word torture should be thrown out of the argument altogether because an infant holds no information.[/QUOTE]
Except for you know people who try to conduct exorcisms on their children which qualify as torture given the law doesn't consider torture on anything but humans.
[QUOTE=lazarus;17206528]Kenny Glenn's successor, except with dogs.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't compare. He didn't record it and put it on YouTube for his amusement.
This is the UN's definition of torture:
[quote]1. For the purposes of this Convention, the term "torture" means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.[/quote]
It applies only to people.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17206532]Except for you know people who try to conduct exorcisms on their children which qualify as torture given the law doesn't consider torture on anything but humans.[/QUOTE]
I already told you I don't care what the law is I'm arguing in a moral light.
[QUOTE=maniac;17206546]I already told you I don't care what the law is I'm arguing in a moral light.[/QUOTE]
hey guys all laws should be based on morals and feelings and stuff that's a good idea bro
[QUOTE=maniac;17206546]I already told you I don't care what the law is I'm arguing in a moral light.[/QUOTE]
Given you equate infants to dogs, your moral compass isn't exactly trustworthy.
[QUOTE=Doriol;17206551]hey guys all laws should be based on morals and feelings and stuff that's a good idea bro[/QUOTE]
That's funny because I never said that. I'm not casting aside all the laws, I'm arguing because torturing a helpless loyal and faithful dog has some of the same aspects as torturing a defenseless innocent baby because they are both endearing to you and trust that you will not hurt them.
[QUOTE=maniac;17206570]That's funny because I never said that. I'm not casting aside all the laws, I'm arguing because torturing a helpless loyal and faithful dog has some of the same aspects as torturing a defenseless innocent baby because they are both endearing to you and trust that you will not hurt them.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, see that's called psychosis. You have a severe detachment from reality.
[QUOTE=maniac;17206570]I'm arguing because torturing a helpless loyal and faithful dog has some of the same aspects as torturing a defenseless innocent baby because they are both endearing to you and trust that you will not hurt them.[/QUOTE]
or so you think
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