shame on those kids for being human and having hormones shame on those little horny fuckers
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If they're 2 trusting partners then I guess there is no problem, but complete strangers, no.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, sure, it's slaggish, but what's the harm?
[QUOTE=amute;31884205]Yeah, sure, it's slaggish, but what's the harm?[/QUOTE]
There is the possibility that the stranger may be an adult, and that he may spread the pictures.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31875184]
If they're 2 trusting partners then I guess there is no problem, but complete strangers, no.[/QUOTE]
why
if I consent for my dong to be spread across the internet and it happens, did I do something wrong?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;31884373]why
if I consent for my dong to be spread across the internet and it happens, did I do something wrong?[/QUOTE]
thing is the people who send the photo might not think of it as sending a photo to someone else as spreading it across the web
they just think they sent it to the other person
No criminal charges... makes me wish I could have been a part this sexting ring. :(
[QUOTE=Zeke129;31884373]why
if I consent for my dong to be spread across the internet and it happens, did I do something wrong?[/QUOTE]
First of all most kids don't realise that may happen, second of all are you all for teenagers putting up porn of themselves because they think it's ok and intend to do so?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31884366]There is the possibility that the stranger may be an adult, and that he may spread the pictures.[/QUOTE]
So?
Oh no, someone saw you naked! What, are they going to be offended by anatomical structures they themselves posses? What is with this absolute fear of people seeing eachothers skin, goodness, we're all humans.
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And even then, it's a small possibility. Why not do ANYTHING because something may go wrong.
How about instead of sexting, they watch porn. Come on people it isn't that hard.
[url]www.myfreepaysite.com[/url]
Have fun...
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31875184]If they're 2 trusting partners then I guess there is no problem, but complete strangers, no.[/QUOTE]
How often do you honestly believe people send naked pictures to complete strangers?
Second, if some teenager wants to put their dong or whatever on the internet, who am I to stop him/her?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31904680]How often do you honestly believe people send naked pictures to complete strangers?
Second, if some teenager wants to put their dong or whatever on the internet, who am I to stop him/her?[/QUOTE]
i've seen a girl that was a complete stranger to my friend send a lewd picture to him after a 5 minute conversation
it happens
i've noticed a trend with you as if we should give minors the same rights as adults and I'm sure you can see where that would fall short
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31904680]How often do you honestly believe people send naked pictures to complete strangers?
Second, if some teenager wants to put their dong or whatever on the internet, who am I to stop him/her?[/QUOTE]
Yeah we are to stop teenagers from putting up pictures on the internet because they cannot judge the situation, the act and the consequences. The teen can get scarred for life.
It doesn't matter if the teenager trusts the person or not, that's really the way most people do it. They 'earn' the trust of the teenager, then gets the pictures and shares them.
There is a reason for why most people don't do 'amateur porn', but adults are adults and they're free to do what they want, they assume their own responsibility. A teenager cannot decide what's best for himself/herself in alot of cases.
This is [I]child porn[/I] we're talking about, and child porn is very much immoral and unethic, or atleast I hope you people agree with me on that point atleast.
[QUOTE=TBFundy;31904725]i've noticed a trend with you as if we should give minors the same rights as adults and I'm sure you can see where that would fall short[/QUOTE]
I strongly believe that the current state of minor's rights is a bad one, and in regard to this I would pose a question: at what point in the transition of 17 to 18 does one become able to make these decisions on their own?
I'm sorry but I fail to grip the opinion where letting unexperienced, irresponsible children give out pictures and videos of themselves does not do any harm.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31904899]There is a reason for why most people don't do 'amateur porn', but adults are adults and they're free to do what they want, they assume their own responsibility. A teenager cannot decide what's best for himself/herself in alot of cases.[/quote]
To you I would also pose this question: At what point in the transition of 17 to 18 does it stop being "child porn" sent out by irresponsible teenagers and start being lewd photos that a responsible adult sends out?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31904899]This is [I]child porn[/I] we're talking about, and child porn is very much immoral and unethic, or atleast I hope you people agree with me on that point atleast.[/QUOTE]
The term "child porn" has very different connotations than lewd photos of teenagers.
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[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31904943]I'm sorry but I fail to grip the opinion where letting unexperienced, irresponsible children give out pictures and videos of themselves does not do any harm.[/QUOTE]
Again I say, at what point in the transition of age 17 to age 18 does one suddenly become a responsible adult?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31904941]I strongly believe that the current state of minor's rights is a bad one, and in regard to this I would pose a question: at what point in the transition of 17 to 18 does one become able to make these decisions on their own?[/QUOTE]
That is a very good question, which is just why some things are not allowed untill earlier aswell as later, such as drinking in alot of countries is not allowed untill you're 21, while driving is allowed at age 16. There is no specific point where one just suddenly becomes a responsible adult. But we have to set it somewhere. It's set at age 18 because it's around that age where most people can be considered mature enough to begin their life in an adulthood.
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[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31904976]To you I would also pose this question: At what point in the transition of 17 to 18 does it stop being "child porn" sent out by irresponsible teenagers and start being lewd photos that a responsible adult sends out?[/QUOTE]
And this is also a very good question. What makes a person suddenly start making porn at the age of 18, do you think? Is it because she/he wants to pursue a porn career, ambitious and strong?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31904992]That is a very good question, which is just why some things are not allowed untill earlier aswell as later, such as drinking in alot of countries is not allowed untill you're 21, while driving is allowed at age 16. There is no specific point where one just suddenly becomes a responsible adult. But we have to set it somewhere. It's set at age 18 because it's around that age where most people can be considered mature enough to begin their life in an adulthood.[/QUOTE]
But you seem to believe in that limit of 18 as some sort of defining age where it stops being "irresponsible children unintelligently sending out pictures" and starts being "adults making decisions", and I don't believe that's the case.
You have to set the border somewhere, but it's really hard to do in a society. It is the obligation of society to keep teens from making huge life affecting misstakes up till the point of they turn 18. Would you rather set the border to age 14, or 22 instead?
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[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31905025]But you seem to believe in that limit of 18 as some sort of defining age where it stops being "irresponsible children unintelligently sending out pictures" and starts being "adults making decisions", and I don't believe that's the case.[/QUOTE]
I'm not supportive to 18 year olds making decisions to go into porn industry. They probably had it in mind from age 16 or 17 anyhow. I think that we should guide a human being for a while, help them in life, but is there a better way to do it?
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Really what do you have in mind, should we simply take away the adult/child 'border'? Or is there a better way to do it?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31905049]You have to set the border somewhere, but it's really hard to do in a society. It is the obligation of society to keep teens from making huge life affecting misstakes up till the point of they turn 18. Would you rather set the border to age 14, or 22 instead?[/QUOTE]
I am not of the mindset that setting a limit on what is "teenagers making mistakes" in law is a good idea. If a teenager (let's say 15 year-old) sends out a lewd photo of themselves, that's may be a bad decision, but it depends on the circumstances. I do not care for the notion that teenagers nearer to the age of 18 still need to be talked down to, given things like curfews, and have their parents be allowed to hit them if they deem it necessary.
It's the same thing as with anything, driving, drinking, credit card, full time labour, so on and so on. How should we handle these things if not by putting a restriction to it? It surely isn't healthy for anybody to let children drive, drink, spend money, work full time or make porn at any time they want.
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[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31905107]I am not of the mindset that setting a limit on what is "teenagers making mistakes" in law is a good idea. If a teenager (let's say 15 year-old) sends out a lewd photo of themselves, that's may be a bad decision, but it depends on the circumstances. I do not care for the notion that teenagers nearer to the age of 18 still need to be talked down to, given things like curfews, and have their parents be allowed to hit them if they deem it necessary.[/QUOTE]
We need this restrictions in society because it'd all be a bloody mess otherwise. Ofcourse it depends on the circumstances, that's for any case, and the circumstances should always be looked upon. But what if we suddenly let all teens from age 10 and upwards make porn if they want to. Are you saying they should be the ones to make the decision?
Give them rights and they're bound to abuse them, they're children, they'll make misstakes, many more than adults would do.
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Who is to decide wether a 16 year old should be allowed to send pictures of themselves naked to other people? And by what criteria do we go?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31905114]Who is to decide wether a 16 year old should be allowed to send pictures of themselves naked to other people? And by what criteria do we go?[/QUOTE]
I would say this isn't something you really need to legislate on, because the teenagers who do it likely won't learn about it, and even if they do it won't stop them. If they do it, and it is a mistake, that is a parenting fault and neither the kid or the parent needs charges against them.
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[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31905114]Give them rights and they're bound to abuse them, they're children, they'll make misstakes, many more than adults would do.[/QUOTE]
Minors deserve all rights adults have sans things like voting, drinking, driving, and other biologically restricted things.
So we just allow the parents to fuck their children over? Is that what you're saying?
So if they allow their children to make these huge misstakes, you're fine with it?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31905259]So we just allow the parents to fuck their children over? Is that what you're saying?
So if they allow their children to make these huge misstakes, you're fine with it?[/QUOTE]
So tell me, if a 15 year-old sends out a naked photo, what do you recommend happen? Parent arrested? Child arrested? What?
No children shouldn't be allowed to send pictures of themselves naked to anybody, because it can seriously screw them over and mark them for life.
We cannot rely on the children to keep themselves from doing such a thing. We rely on the parents to do it.
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[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31905288]So tell me, if a 15 year-old sends out a naked photo, what do you recommend happen? Parent arrested? Child arrested? What?[/QUOTE]
Social services shall do their job. They shall warn the parents aswell as the child. They will talk to them both and explain the dangers. It's much like a child skipping school.
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The one who recieved the images, should immedietly be forced to remove whatever he got, and then should be explained to the dangers aswell, if it's somebody above a specific age, perhaps recieve a reasonable fine aswell, and if it happens again perhaps something else has to be done.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31905309]No children shouldn't be allowed to send pictures of themselves naked to anybody, because it can seriously screw them over and mark them for life.
We cannot rely on the children to keep themselves from doing such a thing. We rely on the parents to do it.[/QUOTE]
I see no reason to stop a teenager from sending photos to their significant other.
But what makes the other significant? They could say they're in love, would that be enough?
You know at breakup the guy may get really pissed or sad, and want revenge.
So he spreads the pictures of his exgirlfriend to humiliate her, or he can say he's going to do so if she does not do this or that. It happens more often than you think.
Adults don't normally send porn of themselves to partners, sure some do, but really not many. Why? Because they realise the possible horrible outcomes.
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Anyways I'm off for bed. Always nice to debate.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31904943]I'm sorry but I fail to grip the opinion where letting unexperienced, irresponsible children give out pictures and videos of themselves does not do any harm.[/QUOTE]
You haven't told us what harm it does.
It's obvious they were just studying for their biology exam
[QUOTE=amute;31912408]You haven't told us what harm it does.[/QUOTE]
I've tried to do it a bunch of times. Give it out to the wrong people, and it gets out of hand, and you're humiliated.
I don't understand how anyone can take the phrase 'sexting' seriously.
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