HP announces a dangerous gamble: the HP Elite X3, an extremely powerful Windows Phone - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Buck.;49791726]What does Windows phone OS do better than Android to justify it's existence? Personally I find windows phone OS to be very difficult to navigate in comparison to Android. Not to mention the somewhat lacking app support for it. I just see it as a completely unnecessary piece of software that exists just so Microsoft can have their own proprietary OS, not because they need it for any reason. This HP looks good, but I have 0% interest in any windows OS phone.[/QUOTE] I personally find it much more pleasing to the eye, and in general my experiences with low-end WP devices have been way better than comparable (price-wise) Android phones. If you don't use that many apps (which I don't), Windows Phone is perfectly adequate. With that said, I have yet to try out Windows 10 Mobile, and in general WP hasn't moved as fast it should've. I think it's totally fine to have a 3rd player in the game.

The windows phone I had was seriously the best phone I've ever used. Even after a coup years it was still snappy and crisp, and the ui is beautiful and very useable, and it's all actually pretty customizable with windows phone 10. It's the good parts of ios and android. All it needs is some support from big companies, like hp here, and it will pick up. A lot of the main apps are on there, or a the least have functional (and in some cases better than the official app) user made apps. Really the only downside to it, is that you have to use Internet exploder, which, being ie, is hilariously unreliable and shitty. [editline]22nd February 2016[/editline] Had a lumia 920 btw, at the time it came out it was a high end phone. It was but extremely well and very very durable. It also felt really, really good in the hand. I miss it.

[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;49791224]How's the codebase security (and ability for the user to fine tune security) on Windows Phones? Also how easy is it to develop for WP, and what tools are available besides Visual Studio? I never owned any smartphone and WP is starting to look like a real option vs Android.[/QUOTE] Wps obviously support a lot of enterprise features, including encryption etc, but those usually are done enterprise wise. End user security isn't terribly tweakable. (though I'm not entirely sure what kind of security you're looking for) Visual studio is the obvious go to suite when developing for WP, there's also the WP SDK and I think there's some third party stuff with support. Though those are rarer. (it's kinda hard to fight Visual Studio really) Generally speaking, I'd recommend anyone who wants to try out WP to get a 640. Since it's dirt cheap (admittedly mine still hasn't updated to 10, not sure when that's coming)

Has Bang and Olufsen speakers? That's fucking crazy.

RIP HP.

Windows Phone is dead. Windows 10 mobile is Alive. Also Microsoft has made it very easy for iOS developers to port their apps with so called bridges. [url]https://dev.windows.com/en-us/bridges/ios[/url]

[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;49792317]Doesn't lag, guaranteed updates for 4+ years(!!), continuum is some hot shit, developers can make their same desktop UWP apps run on the phone with 0 code change, a consistent experience throughout all series, and the only missing app is Snapchat really I'm glad this mentality doesn't exist anymore and sometimes it's actually the inverse that happens[/QUOTE] What even is Snapchat? I've never bothered to try it out, and I have no idea why it's so popular. [editline]22nd February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=QuinnithXD;49792402]Has Bang and Olufsen speakers? That's fucking crazy.[/QUOTE] Bang & Olufsen has been doing a lot in the smartphone and computer space lately. A lot of HP laptops and that new LG phone have B&O options available. It's pretty cool.

windows phones are pretty neato i've got a lumia 940 right now, and since it's really my first smartphone i can't really compare it to other OSes i like the design, but jesus christ can you feel the lack of apps like, there's a pathetic amount of emulators since apparently WPs lack dynamic recompiling or something like that so you can't play DS games on it

[QUOTE=woolio1;49792809]What even is Snapchat? I've never bothered to try it out, and I have no idea why it's so popular.[/QUOTE] Dickpic simulator '16 basically. Or well, it's for sending pictures to each other. The respondent can only see them for a limited amount of time (that you decide). My little brother uses it a lot, and so do many of my friends. I guess it's popular because it feels more casual than sending them via facebook or whatever.

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;49793042]Dickpic simulator '16 basically. Or well, it's for sending pictures to each other. The respondent can only see them for a limited amount of time (that you decide). My little brother uses it a lot, and so do many of my friends. I guess it's popular because it feels more casual than sending them via facebook or whatever.[/QUOTE] Oh, so it's one of those things you need friends to care about. Gotcha.

Getting a windows phone was one of the best decisions in my life, and i've owned androids and iphones before that.

I really don't see this failing for any other reason than potential heating problems. HP has a knack for designing some of their more portable stuff so horribly in the cooling sector (see: their dv series of laptops) that they have extreme overheating issues within months, and within about 2 years, fucking melt themselves to the point of complete inusability as such it was the case with my old dv5, and my friend's dv7. And shoving this much power in a phone? I [I]cannot[/I] see this going well. At all.

I don't understand what reason there is for Windows Phone to even exist. Everything WP does, iOS/Android can do better, with more variety in hardware/software and with app markets that aren't a total mess.

[QUOTE=Reagy;49790862]I hate this type of attitude, Windows Phone is very good and the more devices the better.[/QUOTE] I really prefer the customizability of Android over both iOS and Windows.

[QUOTE=srobins;49793798]I don't understand what reason there is for Windows Phone to even exist. Everything WP does, iOS/Android can do better, with more variety in hardware/software and with app markets that aren't a total mess.[/QUOTE] Do better. Ahahaha.

[QUOTE=srobins;49793798]I don't understand what reason there is for Windows Phone to even exist. Everything WP does, iOS/Android can do better, with more variety in hardware/software and with app markets that aren't a total mess.[/QUOTE] Because if Windows Phone didn't exist, phone software would be a total duopoly. Why are we complaining about having more choice, even if some of it isn't as good as the rest?

[QUOTE=woolio1;49794714]Because if Windows Phone didn't exist, phone software would be a total duopoly. Why are we complaining about having more choice, even if some of it isn't as good as the rest?[/QUOTE] It works for your government doesn't it?

[QUOTE=srobins;49793798]I don't understand what reason there is for Windows Phone to even exist. Everything WP does, iOS/Android can do better, with more variety in hardware/software and with app markets that aren't a total mess.[/QUOTE] Then why is it that iOS took living images, and the new LG G5 took Glance from WP? Surely if they were much better they would have thought of them by now.

How risky is releasing a Windows Phone? Couldn't they just flash Android on any stock that fails to sell?

I'm still waiting for a WP with an x64 Intel Atom to be released. I think that could be a fun toy with enough of a community behind it.

[QUOTE=Reagy;49790862]I hate this type of attitude, Windows Phone is very good and the more devices the better.[/QUOTE] Sure a Windows phone is great. There's just nothing to do on it. The only person I know who's owned a Winphone and stayed on it is my friend whose dad works at Microsoft.

Holy crap this phone has crazy specs. I'd love one.

Bumping this thread because I think this is appropriate: you can now order the phone online [URL="https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/HP-Elite-x3/4199083.aspx?ccs_version=last&ccs_version=90"]in the US for $800.[/URL] [URL="https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msuk/en_GB/pdp/HP-Elite-X3/productID.5062041800?tduid=(3245913943b99c5a120f05db731be6a5)(263915)(2775081)()()"]In the UK, it's 749 Pounds[/URL], and in [URL="http://h20386.www2.hp.com/AustraliaStore/merch/Product.aspx?id=Y2T26PA&opt=&sel=NTB"]Australia, it's $1,199. [/URL] Ordering now gets you the phone before August 18th. Expensive cost for a super featured phone. I also didn't mention this in the original post, but the battery is a removable 4,150mah monster.

Not sure if this has been asked yet but what makes it "extremely powerful"? It has the same internal components as any other current gen flagship phone. Same display ratio (scaled up to a bigger screen so the pixel density will be lower), same CPU, same amount of RAM. The only difference is a higher pixel count in the cameras but unless the image sensors and camera programs are as good as the ones from Samsung/LG I don't see it really being a big difference. [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Electrocuter;49791276]Great hardware, now put it on a system that actually has apps.[/QUOTE] They did. It's called the Samsung Galaxy S7/S7 Edge/LG G5/Nexus/Literally any current gen android smartphone. Right now EVERYTHING is running this hardware. It's nothing special.

As an IT guy I think this phone's design is sick just because they clearly was inspired by their server hardware design: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IUvoA5d.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://product-images.www8-hp.com/digmedialib/prodimg/lowres/c03236469.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.itelon.ru/upload/iblock/c59/hp_microservGen8_02.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Reagy;49790862]I hate this type of attitude, Windows Phone is very good and the more devices the better.[/QUOTE] Literally the only reason to pick an android phone over a windows phone is the applist. Apps aside Windows Phones are excellent.

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;50832349]Not sure if this has been asked yet but what makes it "extremely powerful"? It has the same internal components as any other current gen flagship phone. Same display ratio (scaled up to a bigger screen so the pixel density will be lower), same CPU, same amount of RAM. The only difference is a higher pixel count in the cameras but unless the image sensors and camera programs are as good as the ones from Samsung/LG I don't see it really being a big difference. [editline]5th August 2016[/editline] They did. It's called the Samsung Galaxy S7/S7 Edge/LG G5/Nexus/Literally any current gen android smartphone. Right now EVERYTHING is running this hardware. It's nothing special.[/QUOTE] No windows phone has this sort of hardware, that's what I mean by 'extremely powerful.' I don't think those flagships you mentioned have a 4150mah battery, either.

[QUOTE=FlandersNed;50832494]No windows phone has this sort of hardware, that's what I mean by 'extremely powerful.'[/QUOTE] So by virtue of being a windows phone, this bog standard device is "extremely powerful"? I hate to say it but that certainly doesn't bode well for the brand.

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;50832497]So by virtue of being a windows phone, this bog standard device is "extremely powerful"? I hate to say it but that certainly doesn't bode well for the brand.[/QUOTE] I don't think I'd call high-end phones like this bog-standard, regardless of whether it matches specs with other phones like the S7.

[QUOTE=FlandersNed;50832502]I don't think I'd call high-end phones like this bog-standard, regardless of whether it matches specs with other phones like the S7.[/QUOTE] I would. It's current-gen. Just because worse phones exist doesn't make them not the standard. All of the current gen phones are using the same hardware, that makes it standard.