HP announces a dangerous gamble: the HP Elite X3, an extremely powerful Windows Phone - Polidicks

It's worth noting that, even though its not as powerful hardware wise as the most powerful android phone, it'll run just as well if not better, since in terms of optimisation and stability, android is a joke compared to windows phone. My £50 windows phone I had for a while ran much, much better than any low end Android I've ever used. And my high end Lumia 930 that I had for a while before that (before I dropped it pretty hard fffuuu-) was a beast.

[QUOTE=PyroCF;50835830]It's a shame Microsoft canned their planned Intel x86 Surface phones. It's like they don't want their mobile platform to succeed![/QUOTE] feels like that so often when they try new things and it doesn't take off immediately their zune mp3 players had some seriously solid hardware, great design, and had a flat monthly rate in the marketplace for unlimited music, but it felt like the blink of an eye before they flat out called it quits

[QUOTE=djshox;50839396]feels like that so often when they try new things and it doesn't take off immediately their zune mp3 players had some seriously solid hardware, great design, and had a flat monthly rate in the marketplace for unlimited music, but it felt like the blink of an eye before they flat out called it quits[/QUOTE] Yeah really. They were way ahead of their time with unlimited subscription music service, and the keep 5 songs thing is still cool. If they kept it up longer, maybe Zune could have been juggernaut, but that might just be the optimism in me, considering the death grip Apple had at the time.

[QUOTE=djshox;50839396]feels like that so often when they try new things and it doesn't take off immediately their zune mp3 players had some seriously solid hardware, great design, and had a flat monthly rate in the marketplace for unlimited music, but it felt like the blink of an eye before they flat out called it quits[/QUOTE] I pre-ordered the Zune HD and got it the day it came out in 2009. Coming up on 7 years later (holy shit) and it's still running strong. Battery still goes forever without needing to be charged (I've accidentally left it playing music for days and it was still going when I found out) too. It's my daily use music player, had to fandangle some things to finally be able to sync music up to it on windows 10, the software is getting pretty outdated, but got it all figured out. I dunno how many other people can say they own a piece of hardware they've used nearly every day for the past 7 years and have yet to have any issues with it. I got it wet once and thought I broke it forever, seriously cried because of that. Let it dry out for a few days and it turned back on like nothing happened. It's a fucking tank of a MP3 player, probably due in part to it being so damn light with aluminum frame, falls and shit don't affect it at all. It'll be a sad day when it finally shits the bed.

I bought a zune back in like 2010 but ended up returning it because I really didn't need an mp3 player, but it was pretty slick for the week I had it. :v:

[QUOTE=Reagy;49790862]I hate this type of attitude, Windows Phone is very good and the more devices the better.[/QUOTE] But nobody wants to deal with it because of the lack of support from popular apps be it Snapchat, Firefox, or fucking [I]Pokemon Go[/I]. I've known three people with Windows Phones. All but one's since switched because they can't get any of the apps their friends have, and the reason the one that still has a WP has a WP is because her dad works for Microsoft and she's not the one paying for them Though I will say every single one of them has loved the camera, hardware, and OS itself. It's solely a matter of apps. [editline]7th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Del91;50842567]I bought a zune back in like 2010 but ended up returning it because I really didn't need an mp3 player, but it was pretty slick for the week I had it. :v:[/QUOTE] I mean shit unless you've got a Mac anything's slicker than iTunes. Thank goodness I'm paying for a YouTube Red/YouTube Music/Google Play Music subscription and my phone has at least three whole gigabytes nowadays so that unless I'm going camping or somewhere else where there's no data I don't need to fuck with my iPod ever again.

I'd get another WP as a work phone as I'd need it to just handle the basics and be a stable low utilization platform but I don't think I could go back to one as my main. Good on HP for trying but I think its up to MS to fix the platform.

Will bomb just cuz of wp

[QUOTE=TheTalon;50836251]The OS is fine, and if all you want is just an OS, Windows Phones are great. But Apps make a device. Without programs on my PC other than Windows, it's boring and barely does what a PC is capable of doing. Phones are the same way, and Android/iOS offer more. FAR more If all you need is just a phone that can text, set alarms and send email, Go for windows phone. But it's still not great. Microsoft's own Outlook app doesn't even let you save attachments. I'm almost positive it used to, but for some reason it doesn't now[/QUOTE] Most apps are just website loaders anyway, if you are even a half serious user you dont need a massive market of stupid social games of tapping the screen.

[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50843689]Most apps are just website loaders anyway, if you are even a half serious user you dont need a massive market of stupid social games of tapping the screen.[/QUOTE] lol yeah exactly zero of the tens of millions Pokémon Go players are even half serious users.

I still don't get why devs who are using Unity as their engine can't release a Windows Mobile version as Unity fully supports deploying to UWP. Heartstone, Fallout Shelter and Pokemon GO, all of them could easily release a Windows Mobile release without much hassle, and even with Pokemon GO you could go with Bing Maps or another service since it's all just a client side rendering matter. Honestly at this point you have to be pretty fucking lazy not to try to port any of your popular apps to Windows Phone. You get Xamarin, Windows Bridge and Project Centennial to port any of your current project, let it be an Android app, an iOS app or a Windows desktop C++ app.

[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;50836058]Horrible idea when Microsoft themselves has pretty much abandoned the WP platform.[/QUOTE] Microsoft has no faith in their platforms. Every few years they try a new platform,then scrap it almost immediately. I think they really got their shit together with Windows 10 and .Net being supported on other platforms though [editline]7th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=atrblizzard;50843908]I still don't get why devs who are using Unity as their engine can't release a Windows Mobile version as Unity fully supports deploying to UWP. Heartstone, Fallout Shelter and Pokemon GO, all of them could easily release a Windows Mobile release without much hassle, and even with Pokemon GO you could go with Bing Maps or another service since it's all just a client side rendering matter. Honestly at this point you have to be pretty fucking lazy not to try to port any of your popular apps to Windows Phone. You get Xamarin, Windows Bridge and Project Centennial to port any of your current project, let it be an Android app, an iOS app or a Windows desktop C++ app.[/QUOTE] It's a matter of cost to benefit ratio. Theres very little benefit in supporting windows phone for devs

[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;50843681]Will bomb just cuz of wp[/QUOTE] They should just offer 2 flavors just in case. Like HTC has done in the past.

The zune was just too early for its time. A flac player with sub support akin to the fiio series but more open would sell great.

[QUOTE=atrblizzard;50843908]I still don't get why devs who are using Unity as their engine can't release a Windows Mobile version as Unity fully supports deploying to UWP. Heartstone, Fallout Shelter and Pokemon GO, all of them could easily release a Windows Mobile release without much hassle, and even with Pokemon GO you could go with Bing Maps or another service since it's all just a client side rendering matter. Honestly at this point you have to be pretty fucking lazy not to try to port any of your popular apps to Windows Phone. You get Xamarin, Windows Bridge and Project Centennial to port any of your current project, let it be an Android app, an iOS app or a Windows desktop C++ app.[/QUOTE] The problem is big companies don't pay the devs to develop for Windows Phone due to data showing there's really a small group of people on the platform. This would not pay for the investment they need to do with marketing and paying the devs. Since devs don't work for free, the platform is not supported.

[QUOTE=Capsup;50838168]Having actually tried a windows phone on my work as a test to see how well it performed, I will never consider another windows phone again. The OS might appear to be nice, but as you dive deeper into it you keep running your head against the wall with minor bugs everywhere (atleast on the lumia something phone I tried). The vast majority of these bugs are just pretty annoying, but it's bugs that you'd run into if you just used the phone yourself, so I kinda arrived at the conclusion that none of the WP developers themself use their own OS, otherwise all these minor bugs would probably have been fixed. Not to mention, the speaker on the phone died in less than 3 (!) months, so I had to use a headset to accept calls and what not. The hardware in this phone isn't all that impressive anymore either, is it? ESPECIALLY not at that insane price! The [URL="https://oneplus.net/3"]One Plus 3[/URL] has the same processor, more RAM, same amount of internal storage, a 1080p screen though still with gorilla glass, slightly smaller screen and only 3000 mAh, BUT, it's only 400$ and runs (in my opinion) a better OS in Android. Is Windows Phone OS, 33% bigger battery and a 2k screen really worth 400$? I don't think so personally.[/QUOTE] When did you try the platform? As in, was this W10M or WP8.1? Also, if you're using the first party apps, they are going to break because the devs put the least effort into them. The third party apps are so much better (a sad truth) It's also worth pointing out what I said earlier in the thread - it's impressive for a windows phone, since most WPs don't have this sort of hardware.

[QUOTE=Reagy;49790862]I hate this type of attitude, Windows Phone is very good and the more devices the better.[/QUOTE] I've just gone from having a windows phone for 2 years back to Android, the amount of problems i had with the Windows phone was ridiculous, complete lack of support for major software actually left my social life in the gutter everything was a beta and the phone fucked up more times than i have in my entire life, Android is far superior.

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