Leading Banks in Britain set to leave by next year following brexit
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[QUOTE=carcarcargo;51248585]both of which could fuck off to Europe soon.[/QUOTE]
That's where most of our manufacturing went anyway.
[QUOTE=Vasili;51248598]That's where most of our manufacturing went anyway.[/QUOTE]
Yes and now everything is gone. Congrats brexit has achieved nothing.
[QUOTE=Mellowbloom;51248524]there was already a great option for people living in the uk that wanted out of europe;
getting on a fucking plane[/QUOTE]
Going to Australia is a worse option.
[QUOTE=Vasili;51248441]I wonder if house prices will finally go down in London.[/QUOTE]
With GBP in the shitter, expect even more foreigners outside EU buying them via 'proxies'
[QUOTE=Cructo;51248185]I, too, think democracy and political independence are a joke.[/QUOTE]
You, too, also don't actually understand what's going on or you would understand that the entire thing is a joke, right down to the joke votes for Leave.
[QUOTE=Chopstick;51248577]Good riddance, bailed these bastards out and this is how they repay us.[/QUOTE]
This is an excellent example of the mindset most Brexit supporters have. They made a shitty ill informed choice and now whenever something bad happens they'll spin it as being someone else's fault.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;51248605]Yes and now everything is gone. Congrats brexit has achieved nothing.[/QUOTE]
So what you're saying is our manufacturing industry was in a lose lose situation anyway?
[QUOTE=Cructo;51248185]I, too, think democracy [...] [is] a joke.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;51248224]Direct democracy [b]is[/b] a joke.[/QUOTE]
OP wasn't actually calling democracy a joke, though. He was calling a specific decision that was made through direct democracy a joke.
[QUOTE=Vasili;51248649]So what you're saying is our manufacturing industry was in a lose lose situation anyway?[/QUOTE]
What manufacturing industry? We haven't really had one since the Thatcher days
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;51248652]OP wasn't actually calling democracy a joke, though. He was calling a specific decision that was made through direct democracy a joke.[/QUOTE]
to be honest, democracy littered with ideology and dogma [I]is[/I] a joke. the sooner we can have major economic decisions made by a benevolent AI the better
there isn't nearly enough accountability to empiricism in direct democracy or representative democracy
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;51248653]What manufacturing industry? We haven't really had one since the Thatcher days[/QUOTE]
The EU had its part in seeing UK industry decline.
[QUOTE=Bobie;51248664]to be honest, democracy littered with ideology and dogma [I]is[/I] a joke. the sooner we can have major economic decisions made by a benevolent AI the better
there isn't nearly enough accountability to empiricism in direct democracy or representative democracy[/QUOTE]
A benevolent AI president/dictator with a parliament elected by the people would probably be a good idea.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51248680]A benevolent AI president/dictator with a parliament elected by the people would probably be a good idea.[/QUOTE]
i think we may see AI think tanks in our lifetime, but when you have people like elon musk saying that the AI armageddon is nigh, you'd probably find that support for something like an AI-supported government would be extremely low. its going to be a really long time before we escape the left wing - right wing loop
[QUOTE=Bobie;51248664]to be honest, democracy littered with ideology and dogma [I]is[/I] a joke. the sooner we can have major economic decisions made by a benevolent AI the better
there isn't nearly enough accountability to empiricism in direct democracy or representative democracy[/QUOTE]
The majority of people don't have the time to learn about politics, which is why direct democracy usually leads to silly decisions. It's like instead of being diagnosed by a doctor you get diagnosed by a bunch of people with no medical qualifications what so ever who vote on what disease they think you have. You'd never want a system like that and similarly you don't want a system like that for politics either. Representative democracy is the best compromise overall.
[QUOTE=Vasili;51248649]So what you're saying is our manufacturing industry was in a lose lose situation anyway?[/QUOTE]
His point is that voting for Brexit won't bring back those manufacturing jobs and is actively going to cause more job losses for Britain through the loss of financial and service sector jobs.
Essentially, voting for Brexit was pointless and is only going to cause harm.
EDIT: damn, I got ninja'd so hard.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;51248464]Switzerland doesn't have half the country filled with retards who have had zero education on political matters and don't trust at those who actually do.[/QUOTE]
Eh, we voted to ban minarets. Don't overestimate us.
[QUOTE=Cructo;51248185]I, too, think democracy and political independence are a joke.[/QUOTE]
yo dude honestly, you're a huge fuckin joke at this point lol. nobody takes you seriously because all of your opinions are just straight up wrong. you're either an idiot or a troll, and either way, nobody wants to hear what you have to say anymore.
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I just wanna know what the Sweden wants to do with me, I don't care about being a UK citizen if it means not being an EU citizen.
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;51248970]yo dude honestly, you're a huge fuckin joke at this point lol. nobody takes you seriously because all of your opinions are just straight up wrong. you're either an idiot or a troll, and either way, nobody wants to hear what you have to say anymore.[/QUOTE]
Rather uncalled for the OP wasn't calling you a joke, idiot and troll. Opinions never had to be wrong or right they just are what they are, perhaps come up with a good argument or why you disagree.
I myself saw not one but two dragons today
[QUOTE=Big Bang;51249043]I just wanna know what the Sweden wants to do with me, I don't care about being a UK citizen if it means not being an EU citizen.[/QUOTE]
Let's get married
[QUOTE=Cructo;51248185]I, too, think democracy and political independence are a joke.[/QUOTE]
Yet your avatar support a country with it's people controlled by the empire from another nation
[QUOTE=Cructo;51248185]I, too, think democracy and political independence are a joke.[/QUOTE]
the entire thing was one mass farce perpetuated by england's far right. they basically said anything and everything regardless of the validity to sell votes and it worked, spectacularly so, and now the consequence is that what experts and independents were saying is a very bad idea, is turning out to be a very bad idea
[editline]24th October 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mythman;51248198]I don't understand?
If the banks move to the USA then they are definitely outside the single market too.
If they move to Paris/ Frankfurt then they will be subject to all EU legislation like the financial transaction tax. (Something the City of London lobbied hard to escape).
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they'll just go to luxemburg or some other EU tax haven and start all over again with the lobbying
[QUOTE=Andre Gomes;51251105]Yet your avatar support a country with it's people controlled by the empire from another nation[/QUOTE]
Crutco is a fucking idiot. Literally every post of theirs is this dumb or worse.
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[QUOTE=Anti Christ;51248970]yo dude honestly, you're a huge fuckin joke at this point lol. nobody takes you seriously because all of your opinions are just straight up wrong. you're either an idiot or a troll, and either way, nobody wants to hear what you have to say anymore.[/QUOTE]
Wow you really showed him
This thread is basically a case of (young) people with enough time to browse the net and a forum like FP complaining that (especially an older generation of) working class people who don't have the time to dedicate to politics are too ignorant to decide the future of the country and we should leave it to international finance and eurocrats
Politics in 2016 is depressing
[QUOTE=Conscript;51251887]Wow you really showed him
This thread is basically a case of (young) people with enough time to browse the net and a forum like FP complaining that (especially an older generation of) working class people who don't have the time to dedicate to politics are too ignorant to decide the future of the country and we should leave it to international finance and eurocrats
Politics in 2016 is depressing[/QUOTE]
If you legitimately believe that isolation of the United States economy will bolster our GDP you are horribly misinformed. Being working class does not change that.
The global economy has changed a lot since you were in College. Countries cannot stay afloat without actively participating in the global economy, let alone the U.S, which is an entirely consumption based economy.
Your mental process is horrifically outdated, and if you think that trump is going to do anything but worsen the state of the U.S. you are putting on fucking blinders. Don't pull that working class sage wisdom bullshit if you haven't put in any thought yourself.
I'm sure you're disgruntled and disillusioned. Doesn't mean you can't see the bigger picture and realize what's at the United State's front door.
[QUOTE=Bobie;51248714]i think we may see AI think tanks in our lifetime, but when you have people like elon musk saying that the AI armageddon is nigh, you'd probably find that support for something like an AI-supported government would be extremely low. its going to be a really long time before we escape the left wing - right wing loop[/QUOTE]
And what would be considered necessary by AI could be considered Armageddon by us. AI might see that in order to stop environmental damage, it should cut gas supply (and so on).
[QUOTE=Conscript;51251887]Wow you really showed him
This thread is basically a case of (young) people with enough time to browse the net and a forum like FP complaining that (especially an older generation of) working class people who don't have the time to dedicate to politics are too ignorant to decide the future of the country and we should leave it to international finance and eurocrats
Politics in 2016 is depressing[/QUOTE]
Thats right though. Why should we let uninformed people make major decisions?
It adds a garnish of salt that the people who didn't want brexit (young) are the ones who will have to live with the consequences for longest.
My grandma voted for brexit and she is utterly clueless, she doesn't even know why.
Even relatively normal people voted for brexit but were mislead, 350m to the NHS, EU dictatorship, turkey joining, EU army, bla bla bla. Furthermore the "mandate" from brexit doesn't justify giving absolute power to a select group of executives. People might have voted for brexit (on false pretenses) but they didn't vote for more free trade, they didn't vote to cut trade with europe, they didn't vote for their savings to lose 20% of their value. Not letting people/their representative MPs have any control over the negotiations is an absolute loss of democracy.
You might not like the EU but it is far better than the fecal hurricane the UK is being subjected to currently. You (and others) might argue it was a mistake to be in the EU but its far more of a mistake to leave the EU.
[editline]24th October 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Fourier;51252378]And what would be considered necessary by AI could be considered Armageddon by us. AI might see that in order to stop environmental damage, it should cut gas supply (and so on).[/QUOTE]
If the entire world took the hit at the same time (I assume the AI would cut fossil fuel use in developed countries more than developing countries) then it would be ok. We would lose some quality of life but it would be far more sustainable. Our children would thank us for our sacrifice.
The banks are only here because they're protected from many EU financial rules here whilst being able to operate in the single market, so for example they can offer accounts to people in Germany. It is also because they're allowed to fail and the UK will not be penalised as such for it.
In other words, our special snowflake status is why they're here so they can make more money for themselves and by extension our country. When we leave the EU they will be slightly better off in the EU than here however they will have to be more careful.
If we attempt to rejoin the single market after leaving the EU well get raked over the coals and it wouldn't be beneficial to banks in any way.
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;51248970]yo dude honestly, you're a huge fuckin joke at this point lol. nobody takes you seriously because all of your opinions are just straight up wrong. you're either an idiot or a troll, and either way, nobody wants to hear what you have to say anymore.
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him being wrong does not warrant this kind of outburst.
Remember, a lot of the alt-right-esque group are that way because they feel persecuted or wronged, are angry at the world and feel betrayed. Trumps campaign, for example, is basically built on top of anger and contempt for others.
the best way to deal with these people is to ignore their "one line zingers" and when ever they do actually put forth an argument, debate them then.
Not to say the alt right is ALWAYS wrong, there have been instances where "political correctness" has gone too far, its just that the label PC gets tossed around too often to things to dont really apply
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