• 2012: Year of Elections - 1/3rd of nations will vote in local and national levels
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all you folks of legal voting age should totally vote. if you're not registered to vote, then you should totally register to vote. as much as you tell yourself the system is entirely rigged and there's no hope it's still better [i]to[/i] vote than not to vote. i mean, weed would be legal in california right now if more people would have just got off there asses and voted. your employer legally has to give you time off to go vote(as much as they wouldn't like you to know that), so don't let work stop you.
My country is going to the polls to on 2012. Which other Facepunchers countries are having elections too? [Other than those listed in OP]
Libya will elect their constitutional assembly to draw up a new constitution this year too
Hopefully the Russians get rid of the remnants of the Cold War.
[QUOTE=notxmania;34029809]weed would be legal in california right now if more people would have just got off there asses and voted. your employer legally has to give you time off to go vote(as much as they wouldn't like you to know that), so don't let work stop you.[/QUOTE] That's debatable. A whole bunch of potheads actually voted AGAINST it because it was a stupidly-written law. Whether you support legalization or not, it was a really shitty attempt, and we can do better.
[QUOTE=person11;34029510]I meant this:[/QUOTE] You shouldnt need one, something happened in world war two with pearl harbor.
The problem is with most things it takes a hella alot of time. Politics is one of those things where the majority of people want short term solutions to long term problems.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;34032595]You shouldnt need one, something happened in world war two with pearl harbor.[/QUOTE] I was pointing out that the Iraq war started in 2003, not week after 9/11.
[QUOTE=person11;34033953]I was pointing out that the Iraq war started in 2003, not week after 9/11.[/QUOTE] I know I slipped up there, i meant the war on terror which ended up becoming the iraq war and Afghanistan war. look at the edit.
[QUOTE=billyjohn86;34028536]Why has he not closed Gitmo yet.[/QUOTE] Didn't he sign an order setting it to be closed in a few years, but then the NDAA made it impossible for that to happen?
Blame the Senate for Gitmo still being up and running [url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2009/05/20/obama-guantanamo.html[/url]
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;34034393]Didn't he sign an order setting it to be closed in a few years, but then the NDAA made it impossible for that to happen?[/QUOTE] One of Obama's campaign promises was to close Gitmo. He even initiated its closure upon becoming president. But then the closure was delayed by the Senate, and now it's been left to remain open indefinitely. Since Obama's been elected he's only expanded the executive branch's power. NDAA, SOPA, PIPA, OPEN, Gitmo, etc... He said we'd get change, if only we'd known it was the fascist kind. [editline]3rd January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Political Gamer;34034518]Blame the Senate for Gitmo still being up and running [url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2009/05/20/obama-guantanamo.html[/url][/QUOTE] I haven't seen Obama try very hard to close it since 2009, have you?
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;34034529]One of Obama's campaign promises was to close Gitmo. He even initiated its closure upon becoming president. But then the closure was delayed by the Senate, and now it's been left to remain open indefinitely. Since Obama's been elected he's only expanded the executive branch's power. NDAA, SOPA, PIPA, OPEN, Gitmo, etc... He said we'd get change, if only we'd known it was the fascist kind. [editline]3rd January 2012[/editline] I haven't seen Obama try very hard to close it since 2009, have you?[/QUOTE] the point hes trying to make is obama cant do anything when half the house/congress is republican and will just vote down all of his bills. and Obama was going to veto SOPA, and NDAA ended up having barely any affect on immigrants. I love it when people blame all of the nation's problems on the president when its actually our fucked up congress that is causing all the problems. IMO the president is just a figurehead while congress truly have all the power.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;34034620]the point hes trying to make is obama cant do anything when half the house/congress is republican and will just vote down all of his bills. and Obama was going to veto SOPA, and NDAA ended up having barely any affect on immigrants. I love it when people blame all of the nation's problems on the president when its actually our fucked up congress that is causing all the problems. IMO the president is just a figurehead while congress truly have all the power.[/QUOTE] Of course the Congress and Senate are fucked too, that just goes without saying because we're talking about the president here. Do you honestly think Obama is going to veto anything his constituents and lobbyists push through to his office? No, of course not. Even if he campaigned against it, or even if he spoke against it during his presidency. Perfect example is NDAA. He chose not to limit his power instead of maintaining the people's liberty. He will do so again repeatedly, and to continuously promote hope of otherwise is foolish to say the least.
1/3 of nations will have elections and 1/9 of people will vote
The Mayans were right! 2012 will be a year of great change.
[QUOTE=abananapeel;34034969]The Mayans were right! 2012 will be a year of great change.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hocLdj1lGug[/media] One can hope.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;34028049]Im just voting the lesser evil (aka Obama) if huntsman doesn't get on the ballot. because huntsman is probably the only republican with his head not up his ass with foreign policy, spending, limiting corporation, healthcare, and civil unions.[/QUOTE] Huntsman has republican views fiscally and morally, such as being anti-abortion e.t.c. but at least he isn't a [B]FUCKING LUNATIC[/B] like pretty much every other candidate in the GOP. I wouldn't call Romney nuts but he seems like he has his hands so far down the pockets of lobbyists it's insane.
Good luck to those of you who have polls that actually mean anything. Mine don't, so I won't be participating.[QUOTE=notxmania;34029809]all you folks of legal voting age should totally vote. if you're not registered to vote, then you should totally register to vote. as much as you tell yourself the system is entirely rigged and there's no hope it's still better [i]to[/i] vote than not to vote. i mean, weed would be legal in california right now if more people would have just got off there asses and voted. your employer legally has to give you time off to go vote(as much as they wouldn't like you to know that), so don't let work stop you.[/QUOTE] The $15 I'd spend in gasoline driving to the polls and back is worth far more than some sort of puppet-show 'choice' between a red painted pile of shit and a blue painted pile of shit. Call me cynical, rate me dumb, I don't care. I've 100% lost faith in the political system and don't want a damn thing to do with it. Give me a candidate that's not going to fuck us over and I'll vote. Give me the shit we've got to choose from right now and I'd be hard pressed to justify the gas it'd take to write one in. I'm more than willing to cast a vote if there's someone running I believe is worth casting a vote for, someone who isn't a politician but got on the ballot anyway.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;34034688]Of course the Congress and Senate are fucked too, that just goes without saying because we're talking about the president here. Do you honestly think Obama is going to veto anything his constituents and lobbyists push through to his office? No, of course not. Even if he campaigned against it, or even if he spoke against it during his presidency. Perfect example is NDAA. He chose not to limit his power instead of maintaining the people's liberty. He will do so again repeatedly, and to continuously promote hope of otherwise is foolish to say the least.[/QUOTE] NDAA ended up doing absolutely nothing to anyone that was legal. You are a victim to fear mongering from the media that made it sound like the US was going to become a police state after it was passed. It has been passed and not a single incident has happened since then because the limitations they had sanctioned on the bill. Obama is not the greatest president but god damn, you people make him sound like hes worse than bush.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;34028660]It's people like you who piss me off. For one, he has done quite a bit. But you cannot expect to rebuild a completely broken nation in one term. I say we give him another. He hasn't dragged us all the way out of the hole yet, but he hasn't brought us farther down into it like McCain would have. That and the rest of the candidates are so absolutely retarded that it's become less "politics" and more "retarded reality TV show". They are all a joke, and I don't understand how they've gotten even this far. (Probably because the rest of the Republican Party is either painfully stupid or to absolutely evil to be elected.) Most of this "he hasn't done what he promised!" shit is just misinformation and propaganda. He's left us in a better state then we would be if any of the other candidates got elected, and it's likely he'll do just as decent next term, which is the best we can hope for. Besides, it's not the president that needs focusing on. We need better people in Congress. Preferably younger people.[/QUOTE] "You can't expect a man to clean up eight years of mess in two years. That's just bad math." -Jay Z
[QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;34029786]The democrats are in the majority with around 52% of the votes. How the fuck do you expect them to get anything through congress when 46% categorically says "No" regardless of the bill in question? Of course they couldn't get any of the major changes through as they promised. Vetoing the NDAA however, that was something he definitely could have done, yet didn't, and I think it's worth asking why he didn't keep that promise.[/QUOTE] If they have a 52% majority shouldn't the democrats be able to do whatever the hell they want?
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;34036269]If they have a 52% majority shouldn't the democrats be able to do whatever the hell they want?[/QUOTE] no its a 2/3s vote.
[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;34034529]One of Obama's campaign promises was to close Gitmo. He even initiated its closure upon becoming president. But then the closure was delayed by the Senate, and now it's been left to remain open indefinitely. Since Obama's been elected he's only expanded the executive branch's power. NDAA, SOPA, PIPA, OPEN, Gitmo, etc... He said we'd get change, if only we'd known it was the fascist kind. [editline]3rd January 2012[/editline] I haven't seen Obama try very hard to close it since 2009, have you?[/QUOTE] oh hey shukaido how have you been are you still a truther?
Ooh just remembered, England and Wales are [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_and_Wales_Police_and_Crime_Commissioner_elections,_2012]electing Police Commissioners[/url] for the first time this year
Wouldn't go as far as calling the US "elections" elections. It has more of a sensationalist reality TV taste. Most likely because you cannot take the US seriously anymore.
[QUOTE=Isuzu;34046651]Wouldn't go as far as calling the US "elections" elections. It has more of a sensationalist reality TV taste. Most likely because you cannot take the US seriously anymore.[/QUOTE] If the people are selected people for public office by way of a vote, then it is most certainly an election.
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