EVE Online player loses ship and cargo valued over $6,400
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I remember playing this game for months but repeatedly kept getting my ass handed to me by everything
Terrible times
[QUOTE=scout1;38145935]WOOOOOOORDS[/QUOTE]
People like you are the reason I will never EVER play EVE online.
But holy shit, is reading about this shit happening to someone else fucking HILARIOUS!
[QUOTE=TheTalon;38145431]That's because in EvE online, the first few times you go venturing out into deep space, you will get your ass handed to you, period. Even if you spent 3 years training skills before ever venturing out of high sec[/QUOTE]
The total number of times I've seen or even heard of someone dominating in EVE while flying solo I can count on one hand with some fingers missing; largely due to the simple fact that in nullsec, whenever someone comes along and starts popping ships, all their friends will be gunning for the Solo PVPer, many of them just as skilled up or more skilled up that the would be ganker.
Serious business, nullsec.
[QUOTE=scout1;38146270]
The story that got me into EVE, oh yes. It was not the goons. PC Gamer published it... and so drew in a dozen more like me. This is what google sent me to.
[URL]http://eve.klaki.net/heist/[/URL][/QUOTE]
I remember my first time reading that.
I was giggling uncontrollably throughout.
[QUOTE=scout1;38145935]Okay well since I just took a big dump advocating EVE online as a game, let me share a story. Gather 'round newbies and the unplayed. Let me show you how I enjoyed EVE. I'll make this easy to read for anyone without a due understanding of the game.[/QUOTE]
Reading this was more fun than the 2 months I spent playing. Well written.
[editline]23rd October 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;38146579]People like you are the reason I will never EVER play EVE online.
But holy shit, is reading about this shit happening to someone else fucking HILARIOUS![/QUOTE]
Just do what I do. Sit in 1.0 or .9 space all day and don't talk to anyone ever.
Not a bad story but the value isnt worth the reaction. Nuking shuttles carrying plex is worth while, I also had a set of missions that when run could turn over at the time 2 plex values in under 3 hours. (It was my weekly grind to fund the 4/5 tengu pilot accounts I had in training/ to sell)
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/EVE0782.png[/img]
Here's another image I scrounged up. No big story this time. 20% collateral as the reward is pretty unusual so I accepted an easy courier on my route back to the biggest hub in the game (Jita). Docked up to check and grab the package, peeked inside to see about 140m in minerals, and some unique modules. Turned a 5m collateral into about 160m in cash.
There is something to be said for the brazen casualness of it. Signing a contract for easy money, peeking inside the package, and pocketing it to be thrown away for easy money later. It's not like I ever try to get top dollar of the stuff I steal, I just shift it quickly so I can get my money :v:
And in reality you achieve and earn?
Nothing.
[QUOTE=Canary;38146881]And in reality you achieve and earn?
Nothing.[/QUOTE]
well duh he lost $6,400 what could you possibly hope to 'achieve and earn' from that
except tears
[QUOTE=Canary;38146881]And in reality you achieve and earn?
Nothing.[/QUOTE]
oooooooh somebody's feeling judgemental today!
[QUOTE=Canary;38146881]And in reality you achieve and earn?
Nothing.[/QUOTE]
I dunno man, tears are pretty damn delicious.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38146954]I dunno man, tears are pretty damn delicious.[/QUOTE]
One of my good friends played EvE for quite some time and got really good, there was nothing he woulden't do to get delicious tears from random people. We even joined an alliance called T.E.A.R.S. together, but he probably can't get into any straight thinking corp worth a damn anymore due to the number of pirate/ninja salvager/pvp/raider/scumbag corps he has been in through the times.
I actually have a pretty decent account with quite a few T2 frigates and cruisers decked out for small time stealthy pvp and even a T3 Cruiser fitted for wormhole operations.
This got me thinking about reactivating it, but I'm not sure if I have the time or the dedication to properly get into the game again.
Scout1, you are certainly a top tier douchebag. I don't think I could play EVE, I really dislike scamming people simply for profit and personal gains, game itself seems cool, but those mechanics are just too unforgiving.
Okay one more for real. Let's start with an image.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/EVE0761.png[/img]
This is part of an appraisal I mailed out to some fellows that were assisting me for this particular adventure. Now, I had been hearing about their exploits for a while. They liked to infiltrate corporations (read as: guilds) located in wormhole space (Very dangerous, very lucrative) and steal their ships to be quickly ferried out the wormhole exits (Which shift and change and it's all very complicated...). At this time, my character Treia Laguna had been on an infiltration spree, jumping corps left and right and stealing anything not bolted down (and once, notably, stealing a bunch of things that were bolted down). I decided to try my hand at their craft.
So I watched the recruitment channel. And I watched. And I watched. And oh boy, does this part take a fucking while. Bad corps, shitty corps, the usual spam. Either not worth infiltrating or nothing worth stealing. And not a wormhole corp amongst them! Things were looking bleak, so I let the client run and decided to check the logs later.
That was much more productive. I trimmed off the logs for older days (as their ads aren't necessarily relevant anymore) and ctrl+f'd for wormhole. Now, Treia was not exactly a very skilled character. She did not have any real appeal to the larger, more organized corps unless I wanted to link her to my main, and that I was not going to do. So I was looking for a shittier, smaller corp who would take complete idiots. Unfortunately, I found such a corp.
It all went very swimmingly. I nodded my head at the blabbering, asked pointless questions, said I was interested, and was checking up on the corp history the whole time. Their killboard record was atrocious - They lost 45 ships since their creation for the killing of 3. All of that in a month. But, that means they had ships to steal, assuming they hadn't been all blown up yet. And even the biggest idiot can make money in wormhole space, until he gets blown up. Money means money... for me. Ships can be sold, stolen, used, broken down, blown up for killmails, all sorts of things.
So off we went. Treia became a new little corpie for a new little shitty corp. These people were morons. Ignorant. Completely oblivious as to how to play. I already had wormhole experience. I knew the ins and outs, and I was very good at navigating them. These people did not even know the basic utilities to use to track traffic and incoming and outgoing holes. I politely refrained from saying anything, going with whatever they said, choosing to keep my cover secret for the time being.
Now, I was not able to enter the wormhole immediately. They had not one scanner inside it. Not one. They were waiting for somebody to log on inside and find the exit, and then we'd have to scramble across the universe to get to it before it closed up again. So days pass, and I'm trying to figure out what I can steal, and I'm checking routine corp information and I see they have a hangar at certain station.
"Huh. Wonder if I can access it."
Checked my roles, yep. When people join corporations, they start with no roles. They have to be specifically given. These people hired a new employee and gave him the keys to storeroom with no way to monitor its access and no attempt to check that employee's background.
So I flew over there and what do you know? This is what they've got. Battlecruisers, battleships, a pretty penny for all of them. I estimate the value to be at about 1.07b. That's 3 months of gametime, thereabout. Well I chose not to steal them just yet. Stealing them is actually incredibly easy. Since I have access to the corporation hangar, I can simply take them and drag them into my hangar. My hangar is my own. Nobody can touch your personal hangar. Don't even need a ship capable of moving them. But I waited. I was fine with just taking those, but as always I wanted more profit.
Of course during this time another idiot dies, in a battlecruiser or something, I forget the specifics. A bunch of these raw recruits they offered on quit outright when they figured how bad the corp was. But the leadership and the original formers decided to stick around for... whatever reason they formed it in the first place. And of course they were sharing their valuables with each other through the corporation, which they had blatantly given me access to.
But I just sat there, like a good little newbie. Pretended to be as stupid as my peers, and nobody particularly suspected a thing. Finally we get an exit. I scramble across the galaxy in my (very badly fitted) battlecruiser, eager to "shoot sleepers" (NPCs), or whatever nonsense it was. When I got there, the leader had gone AFK in system... and was AFK. For hours.
So I twiddled my thumbs, logged on my main and shoot some morons down in nullsec with him while I waited. That was fun enough, but it did take a while. The leader finally gets on just so I can get a warp-in (read as: extremely simple task). We go through, and I get snugly under the cover of their really REALLY BADLY OUTFITTED starbase. It had like, 3 guns, and a few utility hangars and a ship bay and some cans for holding random junk. Think "Army base" that turns out to be a few sheds and two pits for trenches.
But I couldn't steal everything right as they were watching, and I didn't know what they had. So I had to bide my time. We went to the first sleeper site, a very trival task that should've taken 15 minutes... and failed to even complete it. Now, my fit sucked. Treia didn't have the skills to fit anything properly. But the leader had been talking about how he could "solo" C3 sites. We were in a C2 (read as: even easier). His tank pretty much broke in 2 minutes, we failed to kill more than 2 ships, then he disconnected and was saved only by another complete retard coming in with some sort of weird logistics cruiser that was completely inappropriate to EXIST. Then the leader got back and we warped away with no more money than we had 30 minutes before - We hadn't looted or salvaged the downed sleeper (NPC) vessels.
And for whatever goddamn reason the leader went AFK again, and a few a stragglers proceeded to log in and out for the next hour. I sat there with Treia inside the forcefield, having accomplished nothing and seriously considering just cashing out. But I decided to stick with it. Just for the money. Because I love money. Did I mention this? I love... money.
So I decided to be productive. I noted the general skill levels of those logging in and out, and the ships they were flying. I peeked into the ship maintenance array (storage) and saw some decent loot. Checked the containers, poked around the wormhole, took inventory of what could be stolen. Guys weren't on to assist me and I wasn't ready to move, so that day was done.
Day 2 in the wormhole was just stupid. Nobody logged on. Nothing. The claimed sleeper killing never materialized. I'm not sure these people were even capable of finding the login button. I took note of which ships had been changed out of the maintenance array, noting an increase in the value (more T2 ships were in there, some T1s had been removed, probably for scanning). I tried to scam some of the 2-3 newbies outside the wormhole, but without much luck. I did get one of them to come to the low security entrance, but he was in a ship so unworthy of killing that I decided not to shoot him with my main and possibly risk their security breach being discovered.
*Apparently* at some point during this day, one of the newbs stole some trash from the hangars, warped out of the forcefield, and got himself blown up by pirates (actual people pirates), thus gaining nothing but a really stupid lossmail. He was booted from the corporation and they went all "HURR DE DURR I CAN'T BELIEVE ANY OF THESE RANK NEWBIES WOULD STEAL FROM US" and locked down the hangars inside the wormhole. "Fuck."
Well now I had wasted time for no gain, and I did not even have a way to get out of the wormhole (the exit changed and Treia had no way of finding it herself). What a fucking bust. I couldn't leave if I wanted to. But I applied myself. I worked that silver tongue skill of mine. I made myself pretend to seem busy. I "ran sites" all day, despite being incapable of it. I "needed to exit" the wormhole to pick up some skillbooks, and got a bookmark of the new exit, valid for the next 16 hours at least. I plied the leader and with my false productivity I pretended to have difficulties arising from his new security arrangements.
So he took the locks off the ship array.
Oops.
I called up my acquaintances from the bottom of the barrel. Tonight was the night. The leader of the group of 3 was a South African. Nice fellow. He was actually at work the whole time as we voiced and communicated to steal things. I could hear him switching between talking to me and work phones. Kind of odd, you know? But he was just as passionate as I was.
Our agreement was simple. They would provide manpower and security. They had characters able to fly any sub-capital ship in the game. I did not. They had more than 1 pair of eyes. I did not. They had more guns than I did.
In exchange, they would each get equal shares of the proceeding loot. So the split was 4.
I waited until everyone in the shitty corp was asleep. Wandered over to the ship array, select all, eject.
This produced a massive explosion of ships flying every which way. In retrospect, maybe not the greatest idea, especially given how visible it was. But it was hilarious.
Now the problem with forcefields is that they are forcefields. These ships were inside the forcefield. I could get inside the forcefield because I was in the corp. They were not in the corp. They were also the only ones who could fly any of the ships. Of course the distance between the ships and the edge of the forcefield was large. About 30km.
How do you get a ship that you can't pilot 30km?
You bump it.
Now, this is also hilarious. Treia didn't have a skill for using microwarpdrives, basically a bigger better version of an afterburner. So while this huge cloud of empty ships was floating around the starbase, a huge "Hey guys shit is being fucked up" sign, we all ran to the closest NPC station and bought me a skillbook for it (really cheap), and then waited.
We waited for 30 minutes so I could train a skill and equip one shitty module.
THEN we flew back really quickly. We all got back inside the wormhole, checking the mass was all right and everything.
So imagine this. I, in my battlecruiser spaceship fitted with very shitty guns, an oversized warp drive, a character who can barely fly combat ships, began to bowl ships out of the forcefield.
Yes. I began to bowl ships to push them out of the forcefield.
It was hilarious, really. Each hit I got on it only moved it a few kilometers. So EVERY ship we wanted to steal had to be hit multiple times. This whole time I'm watching corp chat to see if anyone logs on, ready to evacuate at a moment's notice. I don't mind being discovered, but if I had been I could've been blown up and podded (killed and then REALLY killed). My implants were worth a bit more than that.
So there we are for the next few hours. We've got two guys scoping out both sides of the exit. The leader sitting right outside the forcefield next to the hilarious unprogrammed guns (They SHOULD be shooting any neutrals and hostiles). Every few minutes I would bowl a new ship out, and he'd quickly jump into it and get it out of the wormhole to dock it up safely in a station. The whole time we're pissing ourselves in fear and excitement. The glory of stealing is... it's something different. We got the better of them, yes. But it was hilarious because it was their own fault.
We were worried about getting jumped. Wormhole space? Anything could happen. But we were more busy laughing at the fits of the ships being pulled out. Scanning ships that can't scan, mining ships that can't mine, and so on. We pull out two dozen ships this way, and there's still a dozen more shitty T1 frigates floating around. We left them, because the weren't worth the effort. Of course, halfway through the process I had paused and asked him to transfer my fair share of the ships (We had taken the most valuable ships out first, and I picked several to count for my share). All was good, and the ships were safely docked up. We counted out our profit, properly divided the shares for the ships they had helped me get, and shared the story with our colleagues. I quietly transferred the other corp ships from their hangar into my own, arranging for a freight service to deliver them to a suitable market in the next few days. The big ships, the ones that are bulky and pricey to ship were repackaged if they did not have rigs (parts that break if they're packaged). I coolly calculated my profits, planning my next heist. All was good, all around, except for that corp.
And I felt that I just hadn't rubbed it in quite enough.
So I warped back into the wormhole, emptied all the corp members' personal cans (half were unlocked, one I guessed the password to), took everything out of the hangars that was accessible to me, stole a big pile of ammo from somebody's stash, renamed all the floating ships to offensive names, and parked next to the starbase's gun battery.
And I let it sit there for a few hours as I shot the gun battery to death. It had a lot of HP, and I was multitasking. Somebody logged on. A higher-up. Someone with authority. They didn't say anything. I guess they just looked at the mass of floating ships, all of which had a value of equivalently nil, saw me blowing away one of their structures and just decided "This isn't my problem.".
I laughed to myself as they logged off. Finished off the gun battery, collapsed the wormhole exit so that their bookmarks weren't valid (and we had stolen all their scanners), and ejected a can that I renamed with my name and a ASCII middle finger.
I think it went well.
[QUOTE=Azza;38147051]Scout1, you are certainly a top tier douchebag. I don't think I could play EVE, I really dislike scamming people simply for profit and personal gains, game itself seems cool, but those mechanics are just too unforgiving.[/QUOTE]
That's the whole point of Eve, it's supposed to be a merciless environment where any slight moment of weakness will be abused to it's absolute fullest extent and if that can't be dealt with then you definitely shouldn't play Eve.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38147066]That's the whole point of Eve, it's supposed to be a merciless environment where any slight moment of weakness will be abused to it's absolute fullest extent and if that can't be dealt with then you definitely shouldn't play Eve.[/QUOTE]
So it's like Libertarianism?
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38147066]That's the whole point of Eve, it's supposed to be a merciless environment where any slight moment of weakness will be abused to it's absolute fullest extent and if that can't be dealt with then you definitely shouldn't play Eve.[/QUOTE]
From what I've heard it seems to bring out the worst in people, I just couldn't get myself to scam some poor guy who has put endless hours of their life into a game. Probably be best if I stay away from it then ;)
[QUOTE=Azza;38147095]From what I've heard it seems to bring out the worst in people, I just couldn't get myself to scam some poor guy who has put endless hours of their life into a game. Probably
Be best if I stay away from it then ;)[/QUOTE]
Then someone would do it to you, it's just how it goes.
[QUOTE=Tony;38146416]Funny as fuck thread on the eve forums - [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=165647[/url]
Basically the guy who lost the ship trying to claim he got reimbursed for it in an interview.[/QUOTE]
Ahahahaha christ, that's pretty much the most retarded thing he could have said right now.
If it's true, at least a dozen people have notified CCP about it already since that shit don't fly.
If it's not, he's even more of a faggot than the 'didn't want that sov anyway' type
You. Are. Fucking. Evil.
[QUOTE=DarkMonkey;38147111]Ahahahaha christ, that's pretty much the most retarded thing he could have said right now.
If it's true, at least a dozen people have notified CCP about it already since that shit don't fly.
If it's not, he's even more of a faggot than the 'didn't want that sov anyway' type[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of that guy who invented honour tanking by trying to reclaim his honour in a shit fit dreanought and expected his alliance to somehow cross half the galaxy in under 3 minutes to save him when he realised he fucked up.
Honour tanking, it's the most manly way to tank.
[QUOTE=scout1;38147063]
I think it went well.[/QUOTE]
You glorious bastard.
I wish I had the time for this
Throughout primary school, I leveled up a RuneScape character to max everything. When I leave to college, I'm gonna sell that bitch for two grand (someone will buy it!) and buy a decade of Eve Online. Good life plan? I think so.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;38147118]You. Are. Fucking. Evil.[/QUOTE]
I love you
[QUOTE=Ast_risk;38145279]This game looks complex as hell.[/QUOTE]
The difficulty curve in EVE is so steep it has a fucking overhang
[QUOTE=mfb412;38147173]The difficulty curve in EVE is so steep it has a fucking overhang[/QUOTE]
From a technical view, that would mean you lose understanding the harder you try to understand. Which is accurate, of course.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;38147081]So it's like Libertarianism?[/QUOTE]
One of the factions, the Caldari, is basically free market objectivism carried to the nth degree.
[QUOTE=mfb412;38147173]The difficulty curve in EVE is so steep it has a fucking overhang[/QUOTE]
If you can survive it though then you're pretty much sorted the second everything clicks into place and you can proceed to massacre everything and steal til your hearts content.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;38147225]One of the factions, the Caldari, is basically free market objectivism carried to the nth degree.[/QUOTE]
READ THE BOOOKS
Seriously EVE's books are like a nerdgasm for me. I mean some of the plot is pretty contrived, but the one about the Caldari's leader was very good. Very very good.
Once you get it in your head that it's basically all menus and numbers it's actually an easy game to get the basics of. I played for two months and experienced level 1/level 2 missions in a destroyer, PVP in a cruiser/battlecruiser, mining up to a mid-tier mining barge, and a short time tackling.
Unfortunately I lost my account years ago and any attempt to recover it has been fruitless. I've been tempted to get the $5 license off steam but didn't want to go back to paying $15 a mo. I think my time with it was enough.
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