[QUOTE=Tigster;32785703]They aren't going to go in and start blowing shit up. This is a problem that's been plaguing Uganda and neighboring country for years. The longer Joseph Kony is out there, the longer the people in Uganda live in fear. The children have to march at night to find places to hide in order to keep from being kidnapped. The situation there is shit, it's been shit, and it will continue to be shit. Sending in military advisers to attempt to aid the government in their attempts to put a stop to the [B]massacres caused by hardened children is only going to help, because frankly it simply can't get worse.[/B][/QUOTE]
relative to the 90s, barely anything has happened in the last decade
It could get much, much worse.
[QUOTE=Contag;32785787]relative to the 90s, barely anything has happened in the last decade
It could get much, much worse.[/QUOTE]
You're right, let's just let Kony waltz around Africa pretending he is the voice of God and using that as an excuse to murder people.
Anybody else find it interesting that Obama is sending American troops to help defend a government that decided being gay was worthy of the death penalty?
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;32786031]Anybody else find it interesting that Obama is sending American troops to help defend a government that decided being gay was worthy of the death penalty?[/QUOTE]Kinda ironic.
[QUOTE=OvB;32785655]I'm just saying it's a ballsy move sending troops to Uganda. What if things don't go as planned? What if it escalates?[/QUOTE]
I think everyone here knows about the Battle of Mogadishu.
[QUOTE=Tigster;32785918]You're right, let's just let Kony waltz around Africa pretending he is the voice of God and using that as an excuse to murder people.[/QUOTE]
I'd much rather the US send in a strike team than train Ugandan government soldiers.
If this was Bush, you guys would be flipping out. Just saying!
[QUOTE=Glitchman;32786303]If this was Bush, you guys would be flipping out. Just saying![/QUOTE]People are already "flipping out" about the other current wars.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;32783819]God I would NOT want to be one of those 100 troops being deployed right now.[/QUOTE]
That's the thing though, these are brave American soldiers that are ready for this. I doubt the soldiers sent in are 19-20 year olds that just got out of training. Those are men who are ready to serve their country. It's all just an American attitude.
[QUOTE=RopaDope;32786416]That's the thing though, these are brave American soldiers that are ready for this. I doubt the soldiers sent in are 19-20 year olds that just got out of training. Those are men who are ready to serve their country. It's all just an American attitude.[/QUOTE]
yup advisers are usually older career troops, probably in their 30s
While I believe on paper this is a good idea, as we're making the world a better place by trying to remove a war criminal, I feel like it could also easily backfire
I like Obama is doing something humanitarian but it's an almost conservative move to send combat troops to another country. Especially when we recently assassinated a US citizen in another country, everyone assumed we could because we're fighting a war against the abstract idea of terrorism
[QUOTE=Lick;32787647]I like Obama is doing something humanitarian but it's an almost conservative move to send combat troops to another country. [b]Especially when we recently assassinated a US citizen in another country[/b], everyone assumed we could because we're fighting a war against the abstract idea of terrorism[/QUOTE]
Part of the Oath of Enlistment says: "[i]...that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and [b]domestic[/b]...[/i]"
[QUOTE=Glitchman;32786303]If this was Bush, you guys would be flipping out. Just saying![/QUOTE]
no i would say "oh the u.s. government is finally intervening in uganda to put an end to the crimes against humanity that joseph kony has been committing"
[QUOTE=Falchion;32781943]This is how it should be always done.
Not actually, the parts not included in news broadcasts are still shitholes but shitholes without coverage.[/QUOTE]
Finland is a greedy country because it did not send any soldiers to Uganda. You only think about yourselves.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32785426]I'd much rather see our problems fixed first. We're not in the position to help others when we're practically drowning in billions of dollars of debt. Once our current situation is resolved, then perhaps we can lend help.[/QUOTE]
But how much physical pain is it causing people?
The arguement was redundant a long time ago, the discussion is now based on immoral thoughts.
The death of bin Laden was a great day.
I sure hope we get another day like that with the death of Mr. Iamthevoiceofgod.
This is not the United State's job. If the United States truly wanted to help, we would consult the U.N.
[QUOTE=Extroll;32795295]This is not the United State's job. If the United States truly wanted to help, we would consult the U.N.[/QUOTE]
You are like, 60 years late.
Hope they get this guy.
[QUOTE=Cone;32782267]100 troops, dude. That's barely anything.
And, y'know, it's impossible to solve all these problems at once. You say suffering is going on world-wide. Fixing that would require doing THIS EXACT THING in other countries. This is step one to helping, and there's very little else they could do without people like you complaining that they're giving away too many resources.[/QUOTE]
That's a hundred NCO's and CO's to train a large number of professional soldiers each.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;32791171]The death of bin Laden was a great day.
I sure hope we get another day like that with the death of Mr. Iamthevoiceofgod.[/QUOTE]
Actually it was a worthless day. End of nothing and only held propaganda value.
[QUOTE=Extroll;32795295]This is not the United State's job. If the United States truly wanted to help, we would consult the U.N.[/QUOTE]
Dude the UN already tried, they sent an assassination team.
And remember this the UN we're talking about - exhaust all peaceful measures -
[editline]16th October 2011[/editline]
[quote]In 2006, the [B]United Nations mounted a covert operation to capture or kill Joseph Kony[/B]. [B]A squad of U.S.-trained Guatemalan Special Ops soldiers [/B]set out into Congo's Garamba National Park, a longtime LRA refuge and the scene of the 2008–2009 Garamba offensive. Trained in jungle warfare and accustomed to surviving in the bush for long stretches, the Guatemalans were equipped with M-16s and the latest special-operations technology. Five LRA soldiers were killed and [B]none of the Special Ops soldiers survived. [/B]According to one account, the commander of the Special Ops soldiers was beheaded. The battle, which lasted for several hours, included hand to hand combat. [B]Reports put the U.N. dead at eight to forty[/B]. The LRA left the corpses in the jungle but took the weapons—including heavy machine guns and grenade launchers[/quote]
[QUOTE=Extroll;32795295]This is not the United State's job. If the United States truly wanted to help, we would consult the U.N.[/QUOTE]
"Dear uganda rebels, stop being bad and killing people, or we'll sanction you.
-UN"
Everyone gets mad when the US legitimately tries to help; but no one throws a fuss when the UN sends troops to a country in strife.
so we're helping Uganda but not all these other countries in the middle east that have the same problems?
[editline]15th October 2011[/editline]
not to mention in Mexico right next to us
[QUOTE=JerryK;32801604]
not to mention in Mexico right next to us[/QUOTE]
They haven't asked for your help so stop speculating this shit.
way to not read the article guys, the troops will only engage the lra for self defense
[QUOTE=JerryK;32801604]so we're helping Uganda but not all these other countries in the middle east that have the same problems?
[editline]15th October 2011[/editline]
not to mention in Mexico right next to us[/QUOTE]
There are very few countries the US aren't involved in right now.
Also, how are we not helping Mexico?
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