• 40,000 people Sign Petition to Remove "Beach Body Ready" advert
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The problem is hysterical people with a persecution complex thinking that the ad is telling them that if they don't have a body like in the ad they shouldn't go to the beach.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;47610707]I don't think this campaign was glorifying obesity, more pointing out that shaming people for their bodily appearance in general being used for advertisements I mean these two women aren't exactly obese [IMG]http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10204613.ece/alternates/w460/beachbody2.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Fucking this. The people against this arent glorifying obesity or unhealthiness, they are against this advert suggesting that the beach isnt a place for people who dont look like a fucking glamour model.
[QUOTE=karimatrix;47610752]I think reason for that is that they are simply jumping on a bandwagon. There are fuckton of obscure excuses and oversensetive reactions that suddenly "must be respected as a right" due to social media attention, fueling similar incidents and oversensationalist aproach. [/QUOTE] Just say PC GONE MAD if that's what you wanna say man. [QUOTE] No, something that is a direct threat to person's health will not be justified as his right in a society that is based upon idea of preserving life of it's people. You want to kill yourself slowly, well then, don't expect a pat on your back. [/QUOTE] Most western societies are based upon the idea of liberty and freedom actually.
[QUOTE=Scum;47610788]Just say PC GONE MAD if that's what you wanna say man. Most western societies are based upon the idea of liberty and freedom actually.[/QUOTE] Yeah, you are free to express yourself, but don't expect mandatory social apporoval of everything you do.
[QUOTE=Scum;47610771]it's not glorifying it's about a large (hehe pun) portion of people being treated equally and not fucked over by dumb ass standards of beauty propagated by industries and media[/QUOTE] people don't find morbidly obese people unattractive because they were told to, they find them unattractive because morbidly obese people are unattractive
[QUOTE=FetusFondler;47610785]The problem is hysterical people with a persecution complex thinking that the ad is telling them that if they don't have a body like in the ad they shouldn't go to the beach.[/QUOTE] yeah how could people who are the butt of countless amount of fat jokes, abuse, job discrimination and not to mention edgy forum posts, get these persecution complexes!?!? they are bloody hysterical!
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47610772]That's like saying that people who show discontent with case of police brutality glorify thug life and murder of police.[/QUOTE] Not really, police brutality can affect anyone, but obesity only affects those who chose to let it. I'm saying that if you're uncomfortable with people pushing for a skinnier lifestyle, I understand why you are but they're right, a skinnier lifestyle is healthier and more beneficial than that of an obese one. I'm also not saying that fat people cannot be beautiful, but simply that they should aim to better themselves so that they can live a longer and more fulfilling life. [editline]27th April 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=karimatrix;47610752] Now get out of that damn fursuit before ya suffocate. [I]Or i'll save you myself[/I].[/QUOTE] wut
[QUOTE=Harry3;47610787]Fucking this. The people against this arent glorifying obesity or unhealthiness, they are against this advert suggesting that the beach isnt a place for people who dont look like a fucking glamour model.[/QUOTE] It's an advert, not a law, it targets specific audience for specific reason of promoting specific product. That's it to it. [editline]27th April 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=mcgrath618;47610824] wut[/QUOTE] It was a play on "unhealthy behavior that might lead to death is bad" joke, nevermind, sorry.
I honestly can't stand fat people who aren't doing anything but complain that they are beautiful and society is wrong Like if you are going through a rough patch and put on weight but realize it and are taking steps, awesome. But if you want society to change so that they see you are beautiful... ugh. 100%* of science says it's unhealthy to be obese. People find healthy people attractive. *[sp]real science lol[/sp]
Here's the thing about fat people. Most of us are fat because we are lazy and irresponsible. Plain and simple. Now not all fat people are like this, some are fat because of health reasons or limitations. But for those who are fat, because they are too lazy to jog a little and complain how society doesn't accept their clearly superior lifestyle, there ain't too much sympathy.
[QUOTE=karimatrix;47610828]It's an advert, not a law, it targets specific audience for specific reason of promoting specific product. That's it to it. [editline]27th April 2015[/editline] It was a play on "unhealthy behavior that might lead to death is bad" joke, nevermind, sorry.[/QUOTE] Yes and the people against the advert are fed up with the media pushing this perfect body image shite. For the record, I dont think the advert should be pulled, but I do agree with the opposition to it and the discussion its caused surrounding issues of body image in the media. [editline]27th April 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Glitchman;47610842]I honestly can't stand fat people who aren't doing anything but complain that they are beautiful and society is wrong Like if you are going through a rough patch and put on weight but realize it and are taking steps, awesome. But if you want society to change so that they see you are beautiful... ugh. 100%* of science says it's unhealthy to be obese. People find healthy people attractive. *[sp]real science lol[/sp][/QUOTE] Its not about being obese. There is a middle ground which funnily enough is the average body type. But that average body type is deemed "not good enough".
[QUOTE=karimatrix;47610828] It was a play on "unhealthy behavior that might lead to death is bad" joke, nevermind, sorry.[/QUOTE] I cant tell if you think I'm a furry (which I'm definitely not) or you're talking about something else so I'll just nod and say yes
[QUOTE=Glitchman;47610842] But if you want society to change so that they see you are beautiful... ugh. [/QUOTE] they want society to change so that they can see [i] themselves[/i] as beautiful without constant ridicule and judgement. this stuff isn't hard to understand why are so many of you having trouble with it?
[QUOTE=Scum;47610858]they want society to change so that they can see [i] themselves[/i] as beautiful without constant ridicule and judgement. this stuff isn't hard to understand why are so many of you having trouble with it?[/QUOTE] Most of society does think that they are beautiful But society (and science) "shames" them with their "privilege" because it's unhealthy
The whole 'beach body ready' advertisements have been used again and again by every last fashion shop over the past decade, this is nothing new - plus, why would anyone expect something call 'Protein World' to have anyone not in great shape?
[QUOTE=karimatrix;47610795]Yeah, you are free to express yourself, but don't expect mandatory social apporoval of everything you do.[/QUOTE] that's why there's the fat acceptance movement so people can educate themselves and learn strange things like empathy for people larger than themselves.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;47610707]I don't think this campaign was glorifying obesity, more pointing out that shaming people for their bodily appearance in general being used for advertisements I mean these two women aren't exactly obese [IMG]http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10204613.ece/alternates/w460/beachbody2.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] stop fat shaming me, we get it, you have better genetic bodies then I do, you don't have to dress in a suit and show up in person behind an ad just to show solidarity.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47610751]imho the one on the right is pretty fit could take a wee bit of muscle but definitely no need to go lighter[/QUOTE] both are completely fine and your comment seems pretty critical
[QUOTE=Scum;47610888]that's why there's the fat acceptance movement so people can educate themselves and learn strange things like empathy for people larger than themselves.[/QUOTE] I have said this throughout the internet every time I see it and I want you to hear me. As a fat person, who has been fat shamed all his life in school and among friends. Fuck your fat acceptance movement. Its wrong, its dumb and its doing the polar oposite of what it wants to achieve. You are a laughing stock, please stop. I also want to make sure you understand this. I'm not mad at you. I don't think you're a bad person. Quite the opposite, but please think who, what and why you want to support.
[QUOTE=Scum;47610888]that's why there's the fat acceptance movement so people can educate themselves and learn strange things like empathy for people larger than themselves.[/QUOTE] The kind of people who openly mock fat people are the the kind of people who aren't going to give a shit. 90% of the "abuse" that fat people endure tends to be stuff like this, where they're insecure about how they look so they read more into things than what's there. Things that don't directly support your life choices aren't automatically attacks against you.
The media does push a perfect body type, something I'm not a fan of myself. However, if you're fucking overweight or obese and can help it, then quit bitching. You willingly choose to live an unhealthy life which by all means will lead to your untimely death if you continue to push your luck. You want people to adjust their standards, when you are the one who chooses to be a fat slob to fight against whatever fucking bullshit thing out there. These same people shame others for trying to get healthy, and even do that whole privilege bullshit. Live your life how you want, but stop trying to push your own unhealthy standards on others.
[QUOTE=Scum;47610888]that's why there's the fat acceptance movement so people can educate themselves and learn strange things like empathy for people larger than themselves.[/QUOTE] But therein lies the problem. Why should I be empathic for someones state that they put themselves in? If you are having trouble with your body image because you're fat or not fit enough then why not go on a diet and get some excercise? It's healthy. I understand and symphathize with people who have health issues or body image issues they can't affect (diseases, disfigurements). But if you have body image issues because you're a lazy fat person, then I will have very, very limited empathy towards you. If there's some psychological reason behind it like being ashamed of going jogging I would be more understanding too but then the person should get help anyway. Lazy gluttonous people don't deserve my empathy. I don't think fat people should be directly shamed. But empathy? No.
[QUOTE=mcgrath618;47610868]Most of society does think that they are beautiful But society (and science) "shames" them with their "privilege" because it's unhealthy[/QUOTE] okay i don't know what you're trying to say, sorry. replace your hehe ironic zinger hehe "shames" and "privilege" with what you actually want to say. and understand scientific and medical findings on the subject aren't the issue here.
[QUOTE=Scum;47610944]okay i don't know what you're trying to say, sorry. replace your hehe ironic zinger hehe "shames" and "privilege" with what you actually want to say. and understand scientific and medical findings on the subject aren't the issue here.[/QUOTE] First of all, I'm not sure you're using the word ironic correctly. Second of all, we all have people here [U][I][B]Who are obese/fat themselves[/B][/I][/U] (no offense) telling you how wrong your movement is. Literally all I and most people here are saying is that if you're fat, get thin. You chose this life, you can change it if you want
[QUOTE=Croix;47610940]But therein lies the problem. Why should I be empathic for someones state that they put themselves in? If you are having trouble with your body image because you're fat or not fit enough then why not go on a diet and get some excercise? It's healthy. I understand and symphathize with people who have health issues or body image issues they can't affect (diseases, disfigurements). But if you have body image issues because you're a lazy fat person, then I will have very, very limited empathy towards you. If there's some psychological reason behind it like being ashamed of going jogging I would be more understanding too but then the person should get help anyway. Lazy gluttonous people don't deserve my empathy. I don't think fat people should be directly shamed. But empathy? No.[/QUOTE] see the thing about empathy is that it should be inclusive to all people. i think you need to go and talk to more varied people and read some more books. go on the goodreads website. they normally have really good lists for varying subjects.
[QUOTE=mcgrath618;47610824]Not really, police brutality can affect anyone, but obesity only affects those who chose to let it. I'm saying that if you're uncomfortable with people pushing for a skinnier lifestyle, I understand why you are but they're right, a skinnier lifestyle is healthier and more beneficial than that of an obese one. I'm also not saying that fat people cannot be beautiful, but simply that they should aim to better themselves so that they can live a longer and more fulfilling life. [/QUOTE] Like Anorexia and Bulimia, ie the disorders where people literally starve themselves to death? That's also people's choice? [editline]27th April 2015[/editline] Or people dependant on smoking, or alcoholics, or people who grew addicted to any other drug? Just bad life choices, eh?
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47610973]Like Anorexia and Bulimia, ie the disorders where people literally starve themselves to death? That's also people's choice?[/QUOTE] It can be, but that's literally the exact opposite of what I'm saying The only disease that prevents one from becoming skinnier is diabetes, something you get from making the choice to be fat in the first place
[QUOTE=mcgrath618;47610966]First of all, I'm not sure you're using the word ironic correctly. Second of all, we all have people here [U][I][B]Who are obese/fat themselves[/B][/I][/U] (no offense) telling you how wrong your movement is. Literally all I and most people here are saying is that if you're fat, get thin. You chose this life, you can change it[B] if you want[/B][/QUOTE] If you don't want to, you shouldn't be shamed
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47610973] Or people dependant on smoking, or alcoholics, or people who grew addicted to any other drug? Just bad life choices, eh?[/QUOTE] And yes, you chose that lifestyle and I'm saying you should change that immediately [B][B][I][U]JUST LIKE OBESITY[/U][/I][/B][/B]
[QUOTE=mcgrath618;47610986]It can be, but that's literally the exact opposite of what I'm saying The only disease that prevents one from becoming skinnier is diabetes, something you get from making the choice to be fat in the first place[/QUOTE] Unless you have Type 1
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