Five major ISP's in the US and one in Europe have been accused of throttling traffic - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Untouch;44737707]guess they forgot to investigate bell[/QUOTE] And Rogers. Edit: wtf US flag?

[QUOTE=TheJoker;44737208]I've noticed a big drop in speed at around 8.30 pm est with my connection.[/QUOTE] Our speed is always low, it claims we should get 30 mb download speeds, but every time something downloads, it's 2-3 mb/s.

[QUOTE=ECrownofFire;44737541]Comcast, Time Warner Cable, AT&T, CenturyLink, and Verizon are the biggest, I think. Maybe Charter is in that list. There's actually quite a few ISPs around. They're just never in the same area so most people don't get much of a choice.[/QUOTE] Ive actually had good service with charter, though upload speed could be faster. I dont believe they throttle us, unless anybody using charter can put in their 2 cents

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;44740351]Our speed is always low, it claims we should get 30 mb download speeds, but every time something downloads, it's 2-3 mb/s.[/QUOTE] Are you sure you didnt fall for the '30 Mb/s of speed' trick? Mb is a mega BIT, not a mega BYTE, in reality 30 Mb/s is more like the speeds you're reporting.

Yeah 30 megabits/s is roughly 3.6 megabytes/s

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;44737469]Probably an accident and an employee had their entire family slaughtered for such a mistake[/QUOTE] Actually something similar happened to my house. Our speeds went up nearly twice as much to 50mbps and the next day they throttled it back to 25mbps because we weren't supposed to get speeds like that. They then offered to make us pay for the speed increase which would effectively double our monthly payment from $60 a month to $120. We have to use Comcast Business Class to get around their shitty arbitrary cap at 250GB so that's why the prices are higher than the regular Xfinity Internet.

These ISPs won't change until they face real, significant consequences for their actions.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;44741036]These ISPs won't change until they face real, significant consequences for their actions.[/QUOTE] The cable companies can also turn this on the politicians who would dare make those threats real: "These politicians better not change anything unless they want to face real, significant consequences for their actions." Fuck ISP's.

[QUOTE=Sableye;44737215]i want to rate this late but theres nothing that can even be done anyways since the FCC are the ones who could put an end to this but they're run by the cable companies already self-regulation everyone, it sucks [editline]6th May 2014[/editline] also they'll just insist that its the infrastructure not their shitty network policies. its amazing that whenever google fiber goes into a city suddenly time warner or comcast can offer gigabyte internet access for the same price without building new infrastructure.[/QUOTE] The issue isn't the self regulation, ISPs in Europe are self regulated and we don't have anywhere near the problems you guys have. The issue is that ISPs in the US are happy to offer a shit service because they don't have to compete. Its crazy, in the UK we have a de facto monopoly on cable internet (only two(?) companies offer it and not in the other companies area) and they outclass pretty much every other ISP. Yet there is massive competition as other providers that use ADSL (and recently, FTTC/FTTH) have been innovating and investing in their infrastructure to try and keep up. No ISP in the UK has stayed still in terms of what they offer compared to others for the last 5-10 years. Even with that said though, the shitty infrastructure claim is universal across the world it seems. One ISP here will up their speed and then suddenly most of the other ISPs are able to offer speeds they claimed weren't possible previously. There is currently a speed war going on here, its quite nice. My ISPs offering this year is 152MB free upgrade, last year it was 120MB. Purely to keep up with their main competitor.

[QUOTE=ZyreHD;44737212]Pretty much. I do wonder about the one in Europe. What are the chances of it being in the UK?[/QUOTE] [I]Very[/I] bloody high.

[QUOTE=ECrownofFire;44737541]Comcast, Time Warner Cable, AT&T, CenturyLink, and Verizon are the biggest, I think. Maybe Charter is in that list. There's actually quite a few ISPs around. They're just never in the same area so most people don't get much of a choice.[/QUOTE] I uh, I use Cox.

Fucking knew it, 100% one of the 5 is time warner.

The throttling is ridiculous here in the US, especially here in Denver. I live on the shallow outskirts of the second largest municipality to Denver. Damn near on the front range plains, so by no means do I live in the heart of the city. For the past three years I have had the same internet plan, which should surge at about 6mb/s at its max. Recently, within the past 8 months, I have noticed significantly slower speeds. Usually it's just down to about 4-5mb/s, but a few weeks ago I recall it dropping to 2.5mb/s. Which is doable, but highly absurd for the price and rate I am currently paying for/expecting. But I count my blessings, a buddy of mine who has the next tier down (both of us Comcast) and lives further south in a denser part of town; He should be expecting about 3mb/s, but instead he REGULARLY receives less than 1mb/s (usually about 100-200kb/s) on download speeds. When he and his roommate called Comacst, they were told it was because of high volume traffic in the area. The 1mb/s test was run at ~12am (Midnight) during the week. I didn't realize peak times were that late, Comcast.... Fucking bandwidth bandits. And then there's this internet neutrality shit no one seems to give a damn about anymore. Only gonna get worse!

Man it feels good to live in a country where getting fucked in the ass is not a requirement for having an internet or cable connection.

[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;44741210]Fucking knew it, 100% one of the 5 is time warner.[/QUOTE] twc bought the super awesome isp servicing my state and now I get mini internet drops often (which sucks when I play online games) and my internet gets throttled to a point where loading images takes forever fuck twc

[QUOTE=Jsm;44741106]The issue isn't the self regulation, ISPs in Europe are self regulated and we don't have anywhere near the problems you guys have. The issue is that ISPs in the US are happy to offer a shit service because they don't have to compete. Its crazy, in the UK we have a de facto monopoly on cable internet (only two(?) companies offer it and not in the other companies area) and they outclass pretty much every other ISP. Yet there is massive competition as other providers that use ADSL (and recently, FTTC/FTTH) have been innovating and investing in their infrastructure to try and keep up. No ISP in the UK has stayed still in terms of what they offer compared to others for the last 5-10 years. Even with that said though, the shitty infrastructure claim is universal across the world it seems. One ISP here will up their speed and then suddenly most of the other ISPs are able to offer speeds they claimed weren't possible previously. There is currently a speed war going on here, its quite nice. My ISPs offering this year is 152MB free upgrade, last year it was 120MB. Purely to keep up with their main competitor.[/QUOTE] There's several problems that are the reason. American ISP's have people in the Government, either former employees or future employees (do ____ for us and we will give you a much higher paying job). These conflicts of interest do everything they can to make ISP's more profitable by keeping the law away from their actions. This is extremely obvious now that Net Neutrality has been revoked and they have come up with no plans to restore it, the only thing they've done was write up some fake bullshit and tell people they're restoring it. The other is that ISP's do not compete, they're essentially running a controlled economy. ISP's have their own territory for the most part where they're the only game in town. In areas where there's more than one, they have secret agreements not to compete so they can all milk the local population. They almost never even upgrade their networks or offer better prices or speeds because they don't have to, you buy from them or you go without. Google Fiber has been the only threat to ISP's monopoly in years, it's such a huge threat that in places where Fiber exists, they're actually modernizing their networks and offering better deals. In places where it doesn't exist, they're throwing money at senators trying to get it banned because it threatens their monopolies.

[QUOTE=ECrownofFire;44737541]Comcast, Time Warner Cable, AT&T, CenturyLink, and Verizon are the biggest, I think. Maybe Charter is in that list. There's actually quite a few ISPs around. They're just never in the same area so most people don't get much of a choice.[/QUOTE] Time warner owns Charter iirc.

Yeah, no shit. I've got AT&T and Netflix has degraded noticeably the past few months. Come on, FCC! Do your fucking jobs.

I know Mediacom does it. They have people on forums like DSL Reports that say they don't. Everywhere there's a thread accusing Mediacom of throttling, they have a representative that says they don't, but I know for a fucking fact they do. I can go over to youtube and it'll struggle to download a video at 140p, and Netflix will take 3 minutes to hit 100% to start playing a video, but I can go over to speedtest.net and get an extremely consistent 27Mb down at the same time (Which is a little over 2 Megabytes a second transfer rate) and every other website loads up instantly. And if it were Youtube and Netflix doing it, the complaints would be widespread about it. I think during peak hours Mediacom throttles the absolute dick out of certain websites. I would even go so far as to say they unthrottle speedtest websites as well, because I'm not even supposed to hit 27Mb down. Mediacom is a shady company, but I would still say AT&T is even worse. If AT&T were a person I wouldn't turn my back to them. I had to get my bank to threaten legal action against them before they would even own up to the shit they denied doing and finally stop [editline]6th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;44741643]There's several problems that are the reason. American ISP's have people in the Government, either former employees or future employees (do ____ for us and we will give you a much higher paying job). These conflicts of interest do everything they can to make ISP's more profitable by keeping the law away from their actions. This is extremely obvious now that Net Neutrality has been revoked and they have come up with no plans to restore it, the only thing they've done was write up some fake bullshit and tell people they're restoring it. The other is that ISP's do not compete, they're essentially running a controlled economy. ISP's have their own territory for the most part where they're the only game in town. In areas where there's more than one, they have secret agreements not to compete so they can all milk the local population. They almost never even upgrade their networks or offer better prices or speeds because they don't have to, you buy from them or you go without. Google Fiber has been the only threat to ISP's monopoly in years, it's such a huge threat that in places where Fiber exists, they're actually modernizing their networks and offering better deals. In places where it doesn't exist, they're throwing money at senators trying to get it banned because it threatens their monopolies.[/QUOTE] The worst part is, ISPs get billions of dollars in tax breaks every year so that they can upgrade and maintain their infrastructure. But instead of spending it, they sit on it, and instead want to charge websites like Netflix because Netflix customers are using their internet. I always make the analogy that it would be like my power company charging Samsung money because my Samsung TV is using electricity they supply. even though I already pay for the electricity. It's absurd that they're allowed to do this. This HAS to violate some market laws, it's too retarded not to. What other industry collects money from both ends like that? You think Taco Bell charges water companies for the extra plumbling? The UN declared the internet as a human right over a year ago. And even if it weren't, look how interconnected EVERYTHING is with the internet. Bills, Work, Entertainment, News, Information, Social Media. It's too big and too ingrained in our day to day lives to be controlled by greedy ISPs

Charter throttles me at the end of every month :/ It took me 6 hours once to download a 128 mb file

What a bunch of grade A fuckery. The US has some prertty serious issues with mega corporations screwing over the c common folk. Its like anything goes to make a buck. And once again proves people are too greedy to be allowed to self regulate. Enron anyone?

[QUOTE=PredGD;44737502]I wish they'd reveal the names just to put these ISP's to shame for doing it[/QUOTE] The shitty thing is, they're only accused so far. To publish their names and say "Look at what so-and-so is doing!" without any hard evidence could be considered slander.

[QUOTE=Amez;44741078]The cable companies can also turn this on the politicians who would dare make those threats real: "These politicians better not change anything unless they want to face real, significant consequences for their actions." Fuck ISP's.[/QUOTE] Politicians don't really see them as that big of a deal so you gotta get a bunch of people up in there face about it like SOPA and let them know that they will lose your support. I know some politicians from my time volunteering in the DFL and they treat that shit like the plague and avoid anything similar to it. And really that going to have to start with a place like netflix starting a campaign and putting up a banner on there website about this bullshit to get the average joe angry

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;44738845]In a nation where corporations write the laws, anything goes.[/QUOTE] This sounds like the tagline for a Sylvester Stallone movie.

Right now, I can't use Youtube. Takes me 30 seconds to download 10 seconds of 140P. But I just pulled 2.1Mb/s on Steam when updating Red Orchestra. If Mediacom isn't throttling me and lying about it I'll suck anyone's dick for free

[QUOTE=TheTalon;44742182]Right now, I can't use Youtube. Takes me 30 seconds to download 10 seconds of 140P. But I just pulled 2.1Mb/s on Steam when updating Red Orchestra. If Mediacom isn't throttling me and lying about it I'll suck anyone's dick for free[/QUOTE] Youtube's performance has been hit-or-miss for me ever since Net Neutrality was shot-down.

Something must be done, and soon. The question is where to start, then how to get the ball rolling.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;44742599]Something must be done, and soon. The question is where to start, then how to get the ball rolling.[/QUOTE] Not goingto happen with the recent FCC drama

[QUOTE=Map in a box;44742621]Not goingto happen with the recent FCC drama[/QUOTE] Something could happen if enough people made enough noise.

At this rate not going to happen [url]https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-tom-wheeler-his-position-fcc-chairman/58HFrZ7t[/url]