• Five major ISP's in the US and one in Europe have been accused of throttling traffic
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[QUOTE=Map in a box;44742665]At this rate not going to happen [url]https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-tom-wheeler-his-position-fcc-chairman/58HFrZ7t[/url][/QUOTE] You can't just put up a White House petition and expect everyone to find it. There needs to be a big effort to put this information out there, to convince the average Joe that this issue is of the utmost importance.
Virgin media in the UK does this, i think most if not all ISPS are guilty of this.
The ISP giants will win this fight in time.
Throttling youtube isn't new or exclusive to US ISPs. My Dutch ISP, Ziggo, also occasionally throttles youtube (approximately once a month youtube basically becomes unusable for a few hours). It's because by far the most bandwidth these days is used up by youtube, and when it reaches a peak the ISP just can't keep up with it. At least, that's what I've been told when I contacted support. Maybe it's different in the US, though. I don't live there so I don't know what the situation is like.
[QUOTE=TheJoker;44737208]I've noticed a big drop in speed at around 8.30 pm est with my connection.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty it is the time everyone on the East Coast is playing Netflix/pron vids before going to bed. It's just heavy network load.
[QUOTE=Killergam;44744031]Virgin media in the UK does this, i think most if not all ISPS are guilty of this.[/QUOTE] No it doesn't, what they do is very different to what the ISPs in the article are being accused of doing. VM throttle if you go over the soft limit, but they throttle EVERYTHING. The accused ISPs are throttling one peering provider to try and extort money out of them. Very different.
I feel as if she's condoning it to an extent by not naming names
LVL3 did a followup post about it, includes stats from their network. [url]http://blog.level3.com/global-connectivity/observations-internet-middleman/[/url]
[QUOTE=Aj;44741622]Man it feels good to live in a country where getting fucked in the ass is not a requirement for having an internet or cable connection.[/QUOTE] yeah but new zealand internet is generally shit unless you pay for an unlimited plan which is like $130~ it took this year to get to a 500gb monthly cap for me, just a year or two ago it used to be 80 gb, and back in 2008 it was 1gb.
[QUOTE=LittleBabyman;44737397]Only one in Europe? Bullshit, I say.[/QUOTE] You can sue your ISP if they do this in europe. Yay for net neutrallity.
[QUOTE=glitchvid;44750387]LVL3 did a followup post about it, includes stats from their network. [url]http://blog.level3.com/global-connectivity/observations-internet-middleman/[/url][/QUOTE] That was a really interesting read, i'd recommend reading this as well, it's from the same site [url]http://blog.level3.com/global-connectivity/chicken-game-played-child-isps-internet/[/url]
[QUOTE=Totenkreuz;44741210]Fucking knew it, 100% one of the 5 is time warner.[/QUOTE] I do too, but I know for a fact they throttle me from 10pm to around 10am eastern time every day, but most heavily on the weekends, I can't even watch a youtube video during those times on 144p, it takes like, 20 seconds to buffer 5 seconds of video.
[QUOTE=AlphaAGENT;44753564]I do too, but I know for a fact they throttle me from 10pm to around 10am eastern time every day, but most heavily on the weekends, I can't even watch a youtube video during those times on 144p, it takes like, 20 seconds to buffer 5 seconds of video.[/QUOTE] Are you sure that's throttling. From the links above it sounds more like they have shitty networks that cant handle the load (effect is the same though)
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;44737469]Probably an accident and an employee had their entire family slaughtered for such a mistake[/QUOTE] This is most likely true. I hear Comcast operates very similarly to North Korea.
[QUOTE=BreenIsALie;44753604]Are you sure that's throttling. From the links above it sounds more like they have shitty networks that cant handle the load (effect is the same though)[/QUOTE] It's not that they can't handle the load, it's that Comcast isn't willing to do more peering without Level 3 PAYING them (which is a big WTF in the peering world). I was able to talk to a datacenter owner awhile back, and his view on it was that 'Comcast thinks it's customers are just assets, they try to make you pay for "access" to their customers." He later released a figure" "Comcast wants $7K+/month to interconnect." And that's probably just a 1Gb port, where as Level3 would get a 10Gb+ port, which they quoted as being $14K/20K$ a month. [editline]8th May 2014[/editline] Sorry, clarification: that isn't to say that there isn't congestion, there is. It's just not because the fiber can't handle it, it's just because comcast isn't willing to plug more cables in with level 3 without L3 paying them $$$$$+.
Here's a good video describing the whole situation for anyone who has lived under a rock for a few months. [video=youtube;NAxMyTwmu_M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAxMyTwmu_M[/video] Hmm seems my internet speed has changed. [IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/3489307599.png[/IMG] (It used to be 20 down and 5 up)
We're switching from Comcast to AT&T right now, and we have both services in our house since we're not sure if we'll drop AT&T before the 30 days are up. For the record, in Branford, Connecticut where I live, those are the only 2 ISP options I have. Both connections, using speed tests from SpeakEasy and Glasnost, average 7 megabits per second. Before AT&T got in the house, it had averaged 7 megabits per second as well. We're supposed to have 20 megabits per second on both plans. At my university I get 40 Mbps and no throttling other than minor Bittorrent stuff. At home, we're being traffic shaped, and Bittorrent is throttled to hell. When we brought it up, AT&T said to use their in house speed test as it's "more accurate." Also, they said they don't throttle. Comcast mentioned the same thing a while back before we decided to switch, and now AT&T is giving the same spiel. Bullshit. If we want fast internet, our only option is to move, and we can't afford to do that, we're too invested in where we live now. I fucking hate this shit.
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