[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;50058989][b]F[/b]ree [b]L[/b]ossless [b]A[/b]udio [b]C[/b]odec[/QUOTE]
free as in free speech, not free beer
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50058995]free as in free speech, not free beer[/QUOTE]
Why not both?
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;50059000]Why not both?[/QUOTE]
The Record companies.
If I ever produced music and got famous, I would make it free.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;50059005]The Record companies.
If I ever produced music and got famous, I would make it free.[/QUOTE]
If you produced music and got famous, would you have free beer too??
No due to licensing restrictions that's not possible.
I was obviously talking about FLAC music and not just any type of FLAC file (this is a thread about an album after all). So let me reiterate, I'm pretty sure he's selling the album in FLAC quality for 20 dollars which means it's better quality than normal MP3/M4As. Most lossless quality music sells online for around 20 bucks so there's really no issue here. You guys seem to be taking this way too seriously.
[QUOTE=Revan564;50058942]Guys the reason it's 20 dollars is because it's flac files, calm down. That's pretty much the standard for them online, unless there's a sale.[/QUOTE]
What? If anything FLAC should be cheaper than mp3 considering it's a free format.
20 dollars for just digital is pretty fuckin pricy
i like the album though
[QUOTE=wauterboi;50058676]
Also, keep in mind, this is Kanye we're talking about, [url=http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/03/kanye-west-caught-using-pirate-bay-to-download-music-software/]Mr. Pirate himself[/url]. It all boils down to a greedy perversion of art.[/QUOTE]
you think that is real and not just a way to start a fake beef between kanye and deadmau5 for publicity
seriously kanye's marketing team got the "any publicity is good publicity" down to an art. you can predict when a new kanye album is nearing completion because he will do more and more outrageous shit as promotion
[QUOTE=uitham;50059262]you think that is real and not just a way to start a fake beef between kanye and deadmau5 for publicity
seriously kanye's marketing team got the "any publicity is good publicity" down to an art. you can predict when a new kanye album is nearing completion because he will do more and more outrageous shit as promotion[/QUOTE]
Deadmau5 doesn't do publicity shit like this.
Only on TIDAL? Didn't realise it was even still a thing.
This version seems much more polished and is mixed a lot better, I'm guessing he was waiting till he actually finished the album because the initial release was definitely rushed
[QUOTE=Maloof?;50058575]But... $20 for an album has been pretty much the standard price since forever
[url]http://www.jbhifi.co.nz/cd-dvd-music/[/url]
What is it with this generation and expecting to pay less and less for creative products?[/QUOTE]
For one, it doesn't take a ten million dollar studio to make something creative anymore, sure these guys build their own million dollar studios but for a few thousand you can get the same quality, and they aren't releasing it on physical disks or vinyl so there's no distribution costs either so ya it's way cheaper now than ever before to create and distribute music so people expect to pay less for it
[QUOTE=wauterboi;50058197]Welp, that's $20 I'm not going to spend. Even if I liked the guy, $20 for an album is absolutely bullshit.[/QUOTE]
I paid $20 for a deluxe edition of a Tech N9ne album, which came with a coin (that's $80 on their website), a behind the scenes DVD, and a custom case.
I'm not paying $20 for a standard edition of a Kanye album, even if he is millions in debt or w/e. Good thing it's on Spotify and shit
[QUOTE=Revan564;50059076]I was obviously talking about FLAC music and not just any type of FLAC file (this is a thread about an album after all). So let me reiterate, I'm pretty sure he's selling the album in FLAC quality for 20 dollars which means it's better quality than normal MP3/M4As. Most lossless quality music sells online for around 20 bucks so there's really no issue here. You guys seem to be taking this way too seriously.[/QUOTE]
Cool, I guess?
Now when does the MP3 version of the album drop where people should spend at most $10? Fuck FLAC.
[editline]3rd April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=gk99;50060360]I paid $20 for a deluxe edition of a Tech N9ne album, which came with a coin (that's $80 on their website), a behind the scenes DVD, and a custom case.
I'm not paying $20 for a standard edition of a Kanye album, even if he is millions in debt or w/e. Good thing it's on Spotify and shit[/QUOTE]
I think a cool presentation for an album would be in the case of Nine Inch Nail's Year Zero, where there was a gimmick with the disc itself.
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9f/Nine_inch_nails_year_zero_cd_face.jpg/800px-Nine_inch_nails_year_zero_cd_face.jpg[/img]
If you played it for at least forty seconds, it came out looking like the one on the right, before it would cool and return to the look of the left. Again, not that I would pay for it because I care about the music itself and nothing surrounding it, but it's at least something to pair with his weird concept album.
Meanwhile, Kanye is releasing FLAC files. The file format is the gimmick. The file format wastes space with a difference of sound quality no one is going to notice unless they've checked out in a dark room with their wasted hundreds of dollars in Monster cables. (Fun fact: Monster cables produce no difference in sound quality.) People living their lives on the go with their perception of Beats being high quality aren't going to hear the change, and so it's basically being marked up for nothing.
I mean, if the file format really is the gimmick, what if I just made my own? Yup, I think that does it. You're all going to have to spend $100 for my WAU files, or spend $100 for the same quality on my streaming service, or $50 for V0 MP3.
[QUOTE=Revan564;50059076]I was obviously talking about FLAC music and not just any type of FLAC file (this is a thread about an album after all). So let me reiterate, I'm pretty sure he's selling the album in FLAC quality for 20 dollars which means it's better quality than normal MP3/M4As. Most lossless quality music sells online for around 20 bucks so there's really no issue here. You guys seem to be taking this way too seriously.[/QUOTE]
only reason i can think of that flac should cost extra beyond audiophile tax is that they take up more server space. look at bandcamp, when you buy an album you can choose which format to download it in at no extra cost, including flac. this should be standard.
this album is so worth the 20$, third best album in kanyes discog after mbdtf and 808s. even though like 95% of people online hate kanye and the stuff hes been doing, i still think he is a great artist and a visionnaire with great ideas
As a Kanye fan I think it's among the weakest of his discography. If it was $10 I would've bought it, but for $20 I'll just keep listening to it on Spotify.
[editline]3rd April 2016[/editline]
Btw, you don't get FLAC files if you buy it off of his site. And on Tidal the album is the same price for MP3 or FLAC - $20.
[url]http://tidal.com/us/store/album/57273408[/url]
[QUOTE=Starpluck;50058295]This video is more relevant than ever
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWYcF1uQ9j0[/media][/QUOTE]
He has it head so far up his ass it is incredible. He has gone full retard, he really has.
I've always enjoyed his early work and still do. But I still can't stand him as a person.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;50058575]But... $20 for an album has been pretty much the standard price since forever
[url]http://www.jbhifi.co.nz/cd-dvd-music/[/url]
What is it with this generation and expecting to pay less and less for creative products?[/QUOTE]
what the fuck are these awful prices, my local best buy has albums for cheaper and they hardly even have the best when i can just look online for better ones
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;50063331]what the fuck are these awful prices, my local best buy has albums for cheaper and they hardly even have the best when i can just look online for better ones[/QUOTE]
new zealand
[QUOTE=TomZa;50063023]this album is so worth the 20$, third best album in kanyes discog after mbdtf and 808s. even though like 95% of people online hate kanye and the stuff hes been doing, i still think he is a great artist and a visionnaire with great ideas[/QUOTE]
I haven't felt that passionate about an album since middle school, and I really enjoy music. I feel like if you care that much and that's the value you'd assign to it, good on you - voluntarily throw that money at him though. Don't suggest other people should equally enjoy that price.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;50064126]I haven't felt that passionate about an album since middle school, and I really enjoy music. I feel like if you care that much and that's the value you'd assign to it, good on you - voluntarily throw that money at him though. Don't suggest other people should equally enjoy that price.[/QUOTE]
honestly it seems more like you're suggesting that others shouldn't
Sounds about right. I think if you want to spend that price you can just obligate yourself to pay more in a pay-what-you-want manner. Just because you think it's worth $20 doesn't mean that everyone else should suddenly be okay with it. (In response to people saying "this album is good enough for $20, missing the point)
Normally I'm willing to give an artist the benefit of the doubt insofar as being a shit person is concerned, if their work is worth it. Hell, most of the writers I like were/are complete assholes. I simply can't bring myself to try and critically assess much of Kanye's work beyond my first/second impressions of it, if only because he's such an astoundingly narcissistic asshole. As if I'd be somehow complicit in his horrible 1%er lifestyle and worldview by doing so.
Twenty dollars doesn't seem that expensive, to be perfectly fair.
I mean let's be honest, we live in a day and age where the majority of the people don't buy music anymore. You can just go on youtube and listen to most well known artists at a quality that'll suit most users. The kind of people who buy albums nowadays are people with disposable income, the kind for whom 20 bucks isn't that much.
If you're so short on cash you can't afford 20 dollars for an album you like, then the chances of you buying it for fifteen, or ten, or five bucks are just as low.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;50066563]Twenty dollars doesn't seem that expensive, to be perfectly fair.
I mean let's be honest, we live in a day and age where the majority of the people don't buy music anymore. You can just go on youtube and listen to most well known artists at a quality that'll suit most users. The kind of people who buy albums nowadays are people with disposable income, the kind for whom 20 bucks isn't that much.[/QUOTE]
I dunno. How do you measure what it's in response to? I personally imagine that the prices of the movies and music of stuff increasing or staying at a really high amount has more to do with them wanting more and putting it under the guise of covering losses from piracy. Furthermore, making it more inconvenient is not how piracy ends.
That's on a grander scale that surpasses just Kanye though.
[editline]4th April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;50066563]If you're so short on cash you can't afford 20 dollars for an album you like, then the chances of you buying it for fifteen, or ten, or five bucks are just as low.[/QUOTE]
That literally doesn't make sense.
"If you wouldn't buy a soda for $5, you wouldn't buy it for $2.50, or even $.75!"
A soda isn't an artistic creation.
If you want soda for free you have to steal it. If you want music for free you go to youtube and nobody will bother you.
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