The Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs (Ukrainian Thrill Killers)
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[QUOTE=OCT08]Something like this happened when autopsy pictures of some kids became available on The Pirate Bay. Massive shitstorm.[/QUOTE]
That's a poor example. This isn't just pictures of an already dead body, this is a video of a man being tortured to death and if you can't understand that, seek a psychiatrist because you have problems.
Any normal, decent human being would agree that this video should be destroyed along with any others that may be out there.
Luckily, they will probably not last long in Jail. I mean, this is the Ukraine we're talking about.
What the fuck? Just 20 years? THEY GOT OFF EASY.
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THEY BETTER BE FORCED INTO HARD LABOUR AND TEDIOUS WORK ORDERS!
Ok, yall need to stop freaking out so bad over it. Starting to scare me that it bothers everyone that bad and I wasn't phased by it other than the thought of it being an innocent guy.
Things like this is also exactly why I carry a KaBar knife (where it's legal) on my side and a .45 pistol half the time if anyone remembers that argument (People said there was no reason to carry a pistol).
[QUOTE=Linelor]Ok, yall need to stop freaking out so bad over it. Starting to scare me that it bothers everyone that bad and I wasn't phased by it other than the thought of it being an innocent guy.
Things like this is also exactly why I carry a KaBar knife (where it's legal) on my side and a .45 pistol half the time if anyone remembers that argument (People said there was no reason to carry a pistol).[/QUOTE]
They need to be punished.
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Justice must be served.
:cop:
[QUOTE=angelangelv2]They need to be punished.
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Justice must be served.
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They did. Really, really lame punishment. Like 20 years tops.
[QUOTE=Spaceman]They have been given prison sentences.
Absolute disgrace.
A year per murder.
The whole youth/adult boundary thing should be scrapped, at least for cases such as this. If they commit crimes like this when they are 14, they will sure as hell do it again when they are released when they are 20 somethings.
Congratulations [b]Ukraine[/b], you just put mass murderers in prison for a shorter time than hackers.[/QUOTE]
lol russians
[QUOTE=Linelor]They did. Really, really lame punishment. Like 20 years tops.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, they deserve more more more more more.
[QUOTE=OCT08]I'm just trying to tell people how silly they are for taking this so seriously that they flame everyone for having a little sense of humour.
Also, I still want to know why the video being on the internet is so hurtful that it justifies the consideration of censorship.[/QUOTE]
You know, there was a scientist who did a study on Genie (a small girl who was restricted to a chair for 13 years, never learned a word of language in her life) who established that there are two main characteristics of the human mind. Empathy and capability to learn.
Your lack of empathy for an actual, tangible human being being murdered deeply disturbs me. And by quite a few scientists' definition, you're officially what is known as a "feral child."
The information has been leaked and the video will never stop circulating. Censorship at this point is impossible.
[QUOTE=Linelor]Ok, yall need to stop freaking out so bad over it. Starting to scare me that it bothers everyone that bad and I wasn't phased by it other than the thought of it being an innocent guy.
Things like this is also exactly why I carry a KaBar knife (where it's legal) on my side and a .45 pistol half the time if anyone remembers that argument (People said there was no reason to carry a pistol).[/QUOTE]
It's not the dead body that sickens me. It's the fact that it was a living human being. Have a little bit of empathy, that was a fucking man dying.
Not dead, dying, you saw a man dying and you show no compassion?
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]It's not the dead body that sickens me. It's the fact that it was a living human being. Have a little bit of empathy, that was a fucking man dying.
Not dead, dying, you saw a man dying and you show no compassion?[/QUOTE]
Nope. It just doesn't bother me anymore. I've seen worse is the main reason.
And I've browsed ogrish and other sites for countless hours. Even if it isn't as bad as other things, it's pretty sad that you don't care the least.
Same here, I just won't watch it out of respect for the man who died.
I wouldn't hesitate to cut the throats of the ones responsible for such a murder though, if they had just shot him in the head and filmed the body, fine, 15 to 30 years in prison, but torturing someone to death is one of the worst crimes that can ever be committed by anyone.
some sick fuckers in this world.
[QUOTE=Linelor]Nope. It just doesn't bother me anymore. I've seen worse is the main reason.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to see worse, frankly I browsed that site for 4 hours looking at every other video that I though could make me feel as uncomfortable as that video did, beheadings, suicides, burnings, baby covered in excrement, none of it phased me as much as this.
It's the people like you who are the ones to worry about, if death doesn't bother you, then whats stopping you from taking a life?
[QUOTE=PieHard92]I'd like to see worse, frankly I browsed that site for 4 hours looking at every other video that I though could make me feel as uncomfortable as that video did, beheadings, suicides, burnings, baby covered in excrement, none of it phased me as much as this.
It's the people like you who are the ones to worry about, if death doesn't bother you, then whats stopping you from taking a life?[/QUOTE]
Motivation.
If he has nothing to gain from killing someone he won't, well, actually if the negative consequences are more abundant than the positive consequences then he will have an extremely low likelihood of killing another person.
He of course also needs the necessary materials to kill, and be in the right location and 'time'.
Materials to kill - a rock, a fist, a peice of plastic, a pillow, a pen, a lamp, a hammer, a rake, a shovel... I think you get where I'm going with this.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff]Materials to kill - a rock, a fist, a peice of plastic, a pillow, a pen, a lamp, a hammer, a rake, a shovel... I think you get where I'm going with this.[/QUOTE]
You can kill someone with anything, it's just easier with certain items,
If you have a 20% chance to kill someone with a pen would you try to kill someone; now if you had a knife or gun where the odds were higher you try then?
The smaller less lethal items were to demonstrate a point but I'm fairly certain that common household items such as hammers, mallets, shovels, irons, barbels, etc have a high potential to kill. Bludgeoning > Human skull.
And who doesn't have a knife.
[QUOTE=Spaceman]They have been given prison sentences.
Absolute disgrace.
A year per murder.
The whole youth/adult boundary thing should be scrapped, at least for cases such as this. If they commit crimes like this when they are 14, they will sure as hell do it again when they are released when they are 20 somethings.
Congratulations [b]Ukraine[/b], you just put mass murderers in prison for a shorter time than hackers.[/QUOTE]
I wish Ukraine was islamic .
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide]Yeah, you don't get the concept of empathy. You really don't.
I wonder why his wife said no. Oh right, because she wanted him to be remembered with dignity. It didn't work, because closeted nerds like you will make Steve Irwin jokes all the time.
Real death isn't funny. If you had witnessed it you wouldn't say any of this.
Let me just reread that.
You are beyond all hope of salvation.[/QUOTE]
Please help me rationalize why this man's family would want the video to be removed from the internet instead of making irrelevant statements. If you can't think of anything then could you at least admit it?
empathy
n : understanding and entering into another's feelings
Let's pretend for a moment that I feel for them and want to discern it.
[QUOTE=RBM11]Where do you live? Cause if you live within 50 miles of me, well...[/QUOTE]
Phasers set to 'hug'?
[QUOTE=Shanethe13]I watched the whole thing a few days ago and didn't feel a thing over the course of the video. Since then I've felt horrible, not because of the video, but because it didn't seem to affect me, how could I have watched that and not felt anything? Does this make me just as bad as the murderers, because I clearly have no sense of empathy?
I agree that what these people did is sick, and they should be punished, however for whatever reason, I didn't feel any remorse while watching.[/QUOTE]
That just means you're emotionally stable. You didn't even know the guy, so why bother?
[QUOTE=BricknHead]You know, there was a scientist who did a study on Genie (a small girl who was restricted to a chair for 13 years, never learned a word of language in her life) who established that there are two main characteristics of the human mind. Empathy and capability to learn.
Your lack of empathy for an actual, tangible human being being murdered deeply disturbs me. And by quite a few scientists' definition, you're officially what is known as a "feral child."[/QUOTE]
There are more :downs: than Mowgli reincarnate.
I'll watch it so I can throw up and miss school today.
[QUOTE=OCT08]Please help me rationalize why this man's family would want the video to be removed from the internet instead of making irrelevant statements. If you can't think of anything then could you at least admit it?
empathy
n : understanding and entering into another's feelings
Let's pretend for a moment that I feel for them and want to discern it.
Phasers set to 'hug'?
That just means you're emotionally stable. You didn't even know the guy, so why bother?
There are more :downs: than Mowgli reincarnate.[/QUOTE]
I think that the family would rather let the video be removed, since people on the net are watching their loved one die a horrible death, for morbid entertainment. People they don't even know. People like you.
And lack of empaty and human compassion doesn't mean that your'e "emotionally stable". That's bullcrap.
You've not lost someone close to you, so your arguments are invalid.
Why don't you hurt yourself and film it. Then you could glee over your own lack of compassion, and people would not be hurt by it.
Let's just cut the "that's sick"
And focus on the fact that some poor guy just died horribly for no reason.
Peace man, you didn't deserve that, rest in piece.
[QUOTE=PieHard92]It's the people like you who are the ones to worry about, if death doesn't bother you, then whats stopping you from taking a life?[/QUOTE]
Because it doesn't work like that.
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB]Because it doesn't work like that.[/QUOTE]
Yes it does. If you aren't emotionally affect by that video, you are, quite clearly, cut and dry, no doubt about it, a psychopath.
[QUOTE=PieHard92]I'd like to see worse, frankly I browsed that site for 4 hours looking at every other video that I though could make me feel as uncomfortable as that video did, beheadings, suicides, burnings, baby covered in excrement, none of it phased me as much as this.
It's the people like you who are the ones to worry about, if death doesn't bother you, [B]then whats stopping you from taking a life?[/B][/QUOTE]
Having taken life and seeing death in horrific fashions beyond even that as an everyday occurrence is the reason it doesn't bother me.
[QUOTE=Linelor]Having taken life and seeing death in horrific fashions beyond even that as an everyday occurrence is the reason it doesn't bother me.[/QUOTE]
More like you're a pussy who's acting tough on the internet saying he's killed and sees regular mutilation.
Yeah. We envy you.
[QUOTE=PieHard92]Story courtesy of PYSIH (People You'll See In Hell)
I apologize for not getting this story from a more recognizable news source, most of the other news sites with this are in russian.
As mentioned in the article there is a video, and I can post a direct link if you really want to see it, but it's pretty much the most awful fucking thing i've ever seen and I mean that completely, it takes the NEDM videos spot as the worst thing i've seen on the net.
Here, I'll just put a link to the vid in this post:
[url=http://www.theync.com/media.php?name=6826-shocking-man-is-murdered][b]VERY GRAPHIC, ABANDON ALL YE HOPE[/b][/url]
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It's going to be okay.
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I am not even going to give them the joy of watching their weak excuse for murder. Killing the weak is bloody weak.
[QUOTE=Linelor]Having taken life and seeing death in horrific fashions beyond even that as an everyday occurrence is the reason it doesn't bother me.[/QUOTE]
please please elaborate on that more..
..did you just say you killed someone?
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