US heats up supercomputer battle with China; building two 20-petaflop systems
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After being dethroned by China as the world's fastest supercomputer maker, US has upped the ante and is creating two 20-petaflop supercomputers to reclaim the top position for the most powerful supercomputer.
A report by Computerworld stated the new supercomputers will be the fastest with speeds of up to 20-petaflops. One of the new supercomputers will be built by Oak Ridge National Laboratory, where the former fastest supercomputer Jaguar is housed. The other one is being built at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory by IBM. The report also confirmed that the systems will be completed by 2012.
Recently China's supercomputer Tianhe-1A system, housed at the National Supercomputer Center in Tianjin, toppled Cray XT5 Jaguar to become the fastest supercomputer, recording speed of 2.57 petaflops
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[url]http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/81898/20101115/supercomputer-petaflop-china-us-tianhae-intel-amd-hpc-nvidia-gpu.htm[/url]
Quite a big jump from 2.57 petaflops to 20 petaflops.
Good. Finally some fucking technological progress. Am I the only one almost wanting a Second Cold War so the U.S. government will focus more on technology again?
I think the real question here is: will it be able to run Crysis?
edit: Guess I didn't type this very well. I agree with it for the advancement of technology but not for the "bragging rights" part.
[QUOTE=Glitch360;26077275]I think the real question here is: will it be able to run Crysis?[/QUOTE]
It'd run 100 copies.
At.
Once!
[QUOTE=Emz;26077298]I don't get why having the fastest computer is such a big deal. It's cool that it will reach such speeds but seems like they're only doing it as a "my dick is bigger than your dick" sort of thing.[/QUOTE]
Who cares [i]why[/i] they want to have the fastest computer. As long as they keep trying to best each other, computers will continue to get more and more powerful.
hahhahahahah
petaflop
[QUOTE=Emz;26077298]I don't get why having the fastest computer is such a big deal. It's cool that it will reach such speeds but seems like they're only doing it as a "my dick is bigger than your dick" sort of thing. I'd prefer that they focused on technology that would be beneficial to us all more directly.[/QUOTE]
The purpose of supercomputers is to process vast amounts of scientific data, such as: protein samples, weather patterns, geological surveys... having such a vast array of computer power means more processing these supercomputer companies can loan out to researchers.
More power = less time.
Less time = more cost efficient
More cost efficient = cheaper research
Not to mention the magnitude of research that can be conducted on a single machine is increased 10-20 fold, meaning more companies can come flocking to hire the equipment.
-snipped as I posted further down-
[QUOTE=Gordy H.;26077272]Good. Finally some fucking technological progress. Am I the only one almost wanting a Second Cold War so the U.S. government will focus more on technology again?[/QUOTE]
or another world war
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;26077345]The purpose of supercomputers is to process vast amounts of scientific data, such as: protein samples, weather patterns, geological surveys... having such a vast array of power means more computing power these supercomputer companies can loan out to researchers.
More power = less time.
Less time = more cost efficient
More cost efficient = cheaper research[/QUOTE]
Also, did not think of that part. So thanks for reminding me. Been ill the past few days. Rated informative. :buddy:
The United States Government is at its best when trying to one-up another nation, and China seems to be the perfect USSR substitute.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;26077366]The United States Government is at its best when trying to one-up another nation, and China seems to be the perfect USSR substitute.[/QUOTE]
Don't dis the USSR! Their chicks are HOT!
[QUOTE=Signature;26077380]Don't dis the USSR! Their chicks are HOT![/QUOTE]
I wasn't dissing the USSR, I was saying that the technological advances of the Cold War were mostly byproducts of the US and USSR trying to outdo each other.
I bet it lags in Black Ops.
What is a petaflop?
money well spent
[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;26077507]What is a petaflop?[/QUOTE]
10^15 floating point operations per second.
This supercomputer has the power of 7353 Radeon HD 5870s.
[QUOTE=Signature;26077380]Don't dis the USSR! Their chicks are HOT![/QUOTE]
if you are into bears, yes
Imagine in 20-30 years time, when the average computer that a person buys is 20 petaflops...
[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;26077507]What is a petaflop?[/QUOTE]
The calculation capacity of an animal rights activist
[QUOTE=Emz;26077298]I don't get why having the fastest computer is such a big deal. It's cool that it will reach such speeds but seems like they're only doing it as a "my dick is bigger than your dick" sort of thing. I'd prefer that they focused on technology that would be beneficial to us all more directly.
edit: Guess I didn't type this very well. I agree with it for the advancement of technology but not for the "bragging rights" part.[/QUOTE]
We went into space to beat the russians to it, I'd say that's a pretty big accomplishment. Even if we're doing it just to stay dominant over the Chinese it doesn't change the fact that we're having to invent new processsors and such to stay on top, which means that technology will eventually trickle down to the commercial and residential level sooner or later.
[QUOTE=Emz;26077298]I don't get why having the fastest computer is such a big deal. It's cool that it will reach such speeds but seems like they're only doing it as a "my dick is bigger than your dick" sort of thing. I'd prefer that they focused on technology that would be beneficial to us all more directly.
edit: Guess I didn't type this very well. I agree with it for the advancement of technology but not for the "bragging rights" part.[/QUOTE]
Yea, this is going to just be a case of, our country linked more processors than your country!
Either way, progress is good, even if it isn't really exceptional progress
[QUOTE=lorden;26078488]We went into space to beat the russians to it, I'd say that's a pretty big accomplishment. Even if we're doing it just to stay dominant over the Chinese it doesn't change the fact that we're having to invent new processsors and such to stay on top, which means that technology will eventually trickle down to the commercial and residential level sooner or later.[/QUOTE]
It's not one fast processor, it's a combination of thousands of CPUs you can already buy on the market. That's all any of these "Super" computers are.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;26077306]It'd run 100 copies.
At.
Once![/QUOTE]
Nothing is that powerful! NOTHING! You hear me?!
Crysis will shit all over that 20 petaflops, because that's what crysis does.
Where are pics?
I bet that my PC has more RAM downloaded than this shit!
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;26077345]The purpose of supercomputers is to process vast amounts of scientific data, such as: protein samples, weather patterns, geological surveys... having such a vast array of computer power means more processing these supercomputer companies can loan out to researchers.
More power = less time.
Less time = more cost efficient
More cost efficient = cheaper research
Not to mention the magnitude of research that can be conducted on a single machine is increased 10-20 fold, meaning more companies can come flocking to hire the equipment.[/QUOTE]
What the article doesn't tell you: The method that measures the flops(Linpack-Benchmark) tells you the [B]PEAKS[/B]. This number is in no way representative of the usability of such a computer for certain projects.
[editline]15th November 2010[/editline]
The future is integrated cloud-computing, not many processors linked in one giant local cluster.
Oh fuck my post was doomed since it got a box before a funny.
I think the problem with this is the motivation behind it - It's not being made to do scientific things better / faster, but rather for pride.
[QUOTE=Emz;26077298]I don't get why having the fastest computer is such a big deal. It's cool that it will reach such speeds but seems like they're only doing it as a "my dick is bigger than your dick" sort of thing. I'd prefer that they focused on technology that would be beneficial to us all more directly.
edit: Guess I didn't type this very well. I agree with it for the advancement of technology but not for the "bragging rights" part.[/QUOTE]
So ignorant that you're not even worth the time to explain.
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