ORION removed from Steam after DMCA from Activision over gun models
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[QUOTE=GameDev;50608890][url=http://i.imgur.com/W8q2FqS.gifv]Another comparison[/url] (Guess you can't embed gifv)[/QUOTE]
Can't add any more pics to the album apparently because Imgur is being glitchy right now with me.
Hopefully word gets out soon, someone like Jim Sterling hops on this fiasco, and the developers won't get out of this situation as easily.
They absolutely deserve the DMCA punch in their ignorant faces.
I hope others follow the example.
Especially if both guns are based on real guns and actually kinda look like what they are based on...
If you go to 1:48 in this video you'll see they have Kylo Ren's mask as well
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtmRUGtyXX0&feature=youtu.be&t=108[/media]
And from 4:17 onwards in this video has some more stuff (including a better picture of the Bobba Fett helmet). Theres also a Quarian helmet at 3:40.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFOi-5H2VI4&feature=youtu.be&t=257[/media]
Man. I just put it on my wishlist
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50608973]Especially if both guns are based on real guns and actually kinda look like what they are based on...[/QUOTE]
I bet if you'd take the meshes from CoD BLOPS3 and Orion and compare them in more detail, you'd see very clear similarities in the polygonal structure.
Yes, the gun IS based on the RL M8A1 but it can't be that the futuristic NONEXISTENT attachments look exactly like in Black Ops 3
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50609083]Man. I just put it on my wishlist[/QUOTE]
Take it off before all your friends see it and delete you dude
[QUOTE=Cakebatyr;50609056]If you go to 1:48 in this video you'll see they have Kylo Ren's mask as well
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Wow, i thought they would kind of redesign it at least a little bit, and then i saw the exact same thing as in the movie with some hashtag slapped on it. Why would you even do something like this? I mean, it's crazy obvious, and its't not even a model or something, it's just a picture meaninglessly shown for a couple of seconds. Also, the game looks pretty bad to be frank.
What a shame. I actually kind of liked the game.
Wasn't that Prassel guy notorious even before the Orion games? Pretty sure back when he was just a modder he was still famous for screwing people over.
[QUOTE=spekter;50608518]Can these guys just stop trying already? How fucking many Orion games is it gonna take before they realize they can't pull it off?
Better question is where do they even get the money to just keep pumping this crap out?[/QUOTE]
They haven't even made many Orion games afaik. It's always the same game that they rename (and maybe update slightly?) to pass off as new.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/XAJQAHV.jpg[/t]
Someone posted this on the Steam Community forums, I'm not sure who made it, sorry.
When I was checking the pics on steam for this game the first thing I noticed was "is that fucking boba fett I just saw?" Guess I wasn't wrong, lmao.
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Lightsabers? World of Warcraft Orcs, and Ghostface? Fucking Robot Santa from Futurama? This was just a big Cease & Desist letter waiting to happen. No wonder why Prelude was only a dollar on Steam.
Feel sorry for whoever bought this shit, should've gotten ARK: Survival Evolved instead if they wanted dinos and futuristic technology wrapped in one package though.
[editline]June 28th, 2016[/editline]
[URL="http://steamcommunity.com/games/104900/announcements/detail/834671877729233336"]Apparently[/URL] they say they don't feel the need to change any asset immediately despite being the main reason why they're getting slammed hard right now, that Activision is acting "malicious and overly aggressive" and are planning a counter-sue. Love to see how that turns out and blow up in their faces the same way it did with Imminent Uprising / Digital Homicide.[/QUOTE]
I think there's an argument either way here.
Obviously they copied the models. But it doesn't look like a direct 100% rip. Kind of like an artist tracing another's drawing then adding minor changes.
It could go either way honestly. Then again it's pretty blatant
[quote]I was just contacted by the artist responsible (he just woke up to all of this - Eastern part of the world) for the Automatic Shotgun (which is what appears most in fans-submitted comparisons) feels absolutely horrible and has contacted me to inform me that he would feel more comfortable in remaking said weapon regardless of what I do about Activision or how we proceed. So no matter what happens going forward, that weapon will be visually different.
He feels terrible that his piece of art resulted in these events that have affected so many things and he has started production on it this evening to remedy anything he can do directly. [/quote]
Oh that poor little artist feeling bad when called out on ripping off content!
Wonder if he ever thought about what the artists of the original works would feel like with him passing their art as his own.
to me it looks like the models are actually ripped and parts just swapped around.
[QUOTE=Advisor;50609654]to me it looks like the models are actually ripped and parts just swapped around.[/QUOTE]
The models are deffinitely different, I'd say it's the concept that was ripped off here.
Or they did rip the models and they just slighty modified them, untill someone loads both models up and checks their geometry I don't think we can really tell either way.
Edit: talking about the rifle and shotgun, the NS2 one I'm like 99% sure it's the exact same thing.
See I think the problem here is that the m8a7 doesn't seem to be a real gun, its unique to the cod franchise as far as I can see. I think the fact that the gun looks realistic obscures the fact that they are stealing a weapon design from another game.
It's akin to from like just putting an energy sword from halo into the game, or like mario's mushrooms.
m8a7 is a cod brand weapon just like those games, and they cant feign ignorance that they didn't know, the core design is exactly the same.
[QUOTE=ballads;50609761][url]http://store.steampowered.com/app/104900/[/url] uh its still there.?[/QUOTE]
they were making a new one or some crap called the orion project, that was on early access. That's the one that got the boot.
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They didn't even bothered to remove the space where the old mag goes.
One thing is taking inspiration, but another is to directly copy the same design (also in Orion: Prelude, they have an almost exact copy of the Halo 1 tank and a Catapult from the Mechwarrior games, how they did last this long is a mystery for me).
-Snip rip
He even gave his own game a positive review... [URL="http://imgur.com/dfCdTmD"]http://imgur.com/dfCdTmD[/URL]
Better spend the .49 on bad rats
God I rememeber playing this game with friends after it changed its name since it was only a buck when we bought it. It was so fucking bad it was amazing, it was just hilarious to play with how horrible it was and how much it ripped off content from 5 or 6 different games.
Keep in mind, this is from the same guy who fired most of the people who made his original game (without pay) right before putting it on steam.
Oh so this is their new game and not the old one? Why the hell hasn't the original been removed yet. It straight rips off 95% of its models from Halo and copies the game mechanics of Borderlands, Killing Floor, etc.
[QUOTE=Tsyolin;50610100]Oh so this is their new game and not the old one? Why the hell hasn't the original been removed yet. It straight rips off 95% of its models from Halo and copies the game mechanics of Borderlands, Killing Floor, etc.[/QUOTE]
Speaking of killing floor, I swear in one of those pictures they have, the one with the dude holding 2 pistols, the pose looks almost exactly 1:1 like the one from kf1.
edit: lol [url]http://steamcommunity.com/games/104900/announcements/detail/834671877730848265[/url]
"i stole things but activision is in the wrong here they are worse than hitler pls give me money"
Looks like these are the western version of WarZ's Sergey. Even though they seem to be even lazier and more infringing on others intellectual property.
Shame to see that people keep supporting this scourge of game development.
As a thought question wouldn't Activision have to circumvent Orion's drm to deduce if they used assets from Activision, which in the process breaks the DMCA itself
[QUOTE=Sableye;50610181]As a thought question wouldn't Activision have to circumvent Orion's drm to deduce if they used assets from Activision, which in the process breaks the DMCA itself[/QUOTE]
That would have to be proved, wouldn't it? Which it's much easier to prove copyright infringement than it is to prove that the party issuing the DMCA takedown violated the DMCA.
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