• Bernie Sanders buys 600,000 dollar summer home.
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[QUOTE=aznz888;50856752]i like how people are literally giving bernie sanders shit for existing because he's doing something that most of the populus folk are already doing[/QUOTE] Most of the populous don't own 3 homes.
[QUOTE=gnampf;50856692][URL="http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/290887-sanders-buys-nearly-600k-summer-home"]Oh boy.[/URL] So much for wanting to reduce homelessness when you have two houses.[/QUOTE] Fuckin.. What? He has the money to buy a vacation house, how does that contradict his will to reduce homelessness whatsoever? [editline]11th August 2016[/editline] Also people overestimating what 600 grand gets you here makes me laugh.. I saw a house that was bayfront property going for nearly the same amount and it was probably 1000 sqft.
Maybe OP was hoping Bernie would move in a trailer or something.
[QUOTE=Kylel999;50864262]Fuckin.. What? He has the money to buy a vacation house, how does that contradict his will to reduce homelessness whatsoever? [editline]11th August 2016[/editline] Also people overestimating what 600 grand gets you here makes me laugh.. I saw a house that was bayfront property going for nearly the same amount and it was probably 1000 sqft.[/QUOTE] I saw a 2bdrm house on a reservation in South Dakota for 20 grand, and in Florida I've seen houses on the ocean go for 10 million. It's almost as if housing prices changes depending on where you live. Quit acting like $600k is chump change. Thats more than a lot of people make in a decade.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50864296]I saw a 2bdrm house on a reservation in South Dakota for 20 grand, and in Florida I've seen houses on the ocean go for 10 million. It's almost as if housing prices changes depending on where you live. Quit acting like $600k is chump change. Thats more than a lot of people make in a decade.[/QUOTE] Yes. Maybe, seeing as you're aware that housing prices change based on location, you should investigate this and see if 600,000 really is actually an exploitatively large amount for that market. Is it? Oh, no, it isn't it turns out. That's a pretty reasonable value for what he bought, and considering how much he makes and his finances being relatively public, the guy's never been shady or bought frivolous things before as far as we can tell, so your suspicion that he's a sheister based on your expert analysis "HE'S AN AMERICAN POLITICIAN" is fairly meaningless. 600,000 isn't chump change, but like I said, in my city, [B]600,000 doesn't even buy you a fucking home.[/B]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50864319]Yes. Maybe, seeing as you're aware that housing prices change based on location, you should investigate this and see if 600,000 really is actually an exploitatively large amount for that market. Is it? Oh, no, it isn't it turns out. That's a pretty reasonable value for what he bought, and considering how much he makes and his finances being relatively public, the guy's never been shady or bought frivolous things before as far as we can tell, so your suspicion that he's a sheister based on your expert analysis "HE'S AN AMERICAN POLITICIAN" is fairly meaningless. 600,000 isn't chump change, but like I said, in my city, [B]600,000 doesn't even buy you a fucking home.[/B][/QUOTE] And in my city, $600k can buy you 6 homes. Housing cost isn't relevant, he still spent $600k on a vacation home. My whole fucking point is is that $600k for a [i]vacation home you can only use for it's intended purpose 4 or 5 months out the year[/i] is kind of a frivolous expense for a politician whose whole goal is to fight wealth inequality. Buying a vacation home that costs more than most Americans houses and is worth more than most Americans make in a decade is kind of hypocritical when you're fighting that exact sort of thing. Yea the guy can do whatever he wants with his money, however he got it, but it's still hilariously disconnected from his platform.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50864402]My whole fucking point is is that $600k for a [i]vacation home you can only use for it's intended purpose 4 or 5 months out the year[/i] is kind of a frivolous expense for a politician whose whole goal is to fight wealth inequality. Buying a vacation home that costs more than most Americans houses and is worth more than most Americans make in a decade is kind of hypocritical when you're fighting that exact sort of thing. Yea the guy can do whatever he wants for his last few years in office, but it's still hilariously disconnected from his platform.[/QUOTE] Except it's not out of line with what he wants at all. Nowhere has he said "Make people spend their own money on houses for other people." There's no [b]problem[/b] with having extra money and buying a house with it.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50864402]And in my city, $600k can buy you 6 homes. Housing cost isn't relevant, he still spent $600k on a vacation home. My whole fucking point is is that $600k for a [i]vacation home you can only use for it's intended purpose 4 or 5 months out the year[/i] is kind of a frivolous expense for a politician whose whole goal is to fight wealth inequality. Buying a vacation home that costs more than most Americans houses and is worth more than most Americans make in a decade is kind of hypocritical when you're fighting that exact sort of thing. Yea the guy can do whatever he wants with his money, however he got it, but it's still hilariously disconnected from his platform.[/QUOTE] Bernie was against the top 1/10th of 1% owning more wealth than the bottom 90%. Bernie selling a home and buying another in no way makes him anywhere near the top 1%.
I can't believe people are bothered by this. $600k is barely anything in house terms, Jane Sanders sold her family home to afford it and on top of that he is a well-paid politician at the end of his career. Old people tend to be reasonably well off, and considering he wasn't even chosen to run against Trump I'd say he owes the American people jack shit. Clinton and Trump think nothing of buying multi-million dollar homes but because they don't fight for regular people it's apparently fine? Their money is their business, but if you have principles you need to live a spartan life??
[QUOTE=gnampf;50856809]I don't recall most people having a summer home. Really only the really wealthy.[/QUOTE] Berdnle sandbags is a senator Senators make money What, are you going to be mad at him for making more money than you? Grow up. [editline]11th August 2016[/editline] Also worth noting that there's nothing wrong with being rich anyway, but being rich and then spending that money means that you're stimulating the economy.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50864402]And in my city, $600k can buy you 6 homes. Housing cost isn't relevant, he still spent $600k on a vacation home. My whole fucking point is is that $600k for a [i]vacation home you can only use for it's intended purpose 4 or 5 months out the year[/i] is kind of a frivolous expense for a politician whose whole goal is to fight wealth inequality. Buying a vacation home that costs more than most Americans houses and is worth more than most Americans make in a decade is kind of hypocritical when you're fighting that exact sort of thing. Yea the guy can do whatever he wants with his money, however he got it, but it's still hilariously disconnected from his platform.[/QUOTE] So because you fundamentally don't understand bernies position, you strawmanned it into "Bernie can't spend his own money on his own things because his policy was something vaguely socialist". What a fucking joke your arguments are
Shit in San Diego $600,000 can buy you a nice little condo and here in NJ it buy you a two story 5 bedroom house near the water. My dads little 1400sq bayfront ranch almost sold for $500,000 before the housing market went tits up in '08. Considering his job and his wife selling their parents old home who is actually surprised they can afford it.
[QUOTE=Ridge;50864163]Most of the populous don't own 3 homes.[/QUOTE] You'd be surprised at the people that own multiple homes. My uncle is a fire fighter and owns two houses and a lake cabin.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50864402]And in my city, $600k can buy you 6 homes. Housing cost isn't relevant, he still spent $600k on a vacation home. My whole fucking point is is that $600k for a [i]vacation home you can only use for it's intended purpose 4 or 5 months out the year[/i] is kind of a frivolous expense for a politician whose whole goal is to fight wealth inequality. Buying a vacation home that costs more than most Americans houses and is worth more than most Americans make in a decade is kind of hypocritical when you're fighting that exact sort of thing. Yea the guy can do whatever he wants with his money, however he got it, but it's still hilariously disconnected from his platform.[/QUOTE] So what you're saying is people shouldn't spend their own money and sell their own houses and property to be able to afford a new house because you think it's disrespectful to the poor and is frivolous when it comes to wealth inequality? Come on dude, you have to understand that people can make a decent amount of money over the years without being super-rich and using all the tax dodges the super rich have at their disposal. It's his money to spend however he wants, and trust me, a lot of people would be willing to buy a second house provided they had the cash to pay for it. To fight wealth inequity, you have to plug the holes in the system that allow for this inequity, not blow up because a guy who supports equal distribution of wealth did something you consider "hypocritical." Use your critical thinking for once, instead of being upset he somehow isnt following your rarefied idea of how he should be behaving.
Bernie should work on minimum wage otherwise his whole message is fake Because American politics
I live about 20 miles from where bernie bought the house, the reason it is so expensive is because it's on an island in the middle of the lake, the only way to get there from NY is by ferry or driving like 50 miles to a bridge.
[QUOTE=ZachPL;50866944]I live about 20 miles from where bernie bought the house, the reason it is so expensive is because it's on an island in the middle of the lake, the only way to get there from NY is by ferry or driving like 50 miles to a bridge.[/QUOTE] $600,000 for a lakefront property sounds pretty cheap to me. A similar house where I am from would cost $10-15 million.
[URL="http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/2016/08/10/check-out-bernie-sanders-rustic-new-lakefront-summer-home/#photo-770370"]This article[/URL] has some dated pictures of the place. [t]http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/wp-content/blogs.dir/2283/files/bernie-sanders-vermont-summer-home/4495643_5_1.jpg[/t] [t]http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/wp-content/blogs.dir/2283/files/bernie-sanders-vermont-summer-home/4495643_7_1.jpg[/t] [t]http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/wp-content/blogs.dir/2283/files/bernie-sanders-vermont-summer-home/4495643_10_1.jpg[/t] [t]http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/wp-content/blogs.dir/2283/files/bernie-sanders-vermont-summer-home/4495643_32_1.jpg[/t] The location is the real big expense, like mentioned above. Lakefront property on an island. The house itself is pretty quaint. It's on a single acre of land and it's basically a rustic log cabin. I can't find the square footage, but based on the pictures, it's really not that big. His house in Burlington isn't anything to look at, either, it's just a box with a cracked and weathered driveway. And his "house" in DC is 894 square feet - smaller than the average US apartment size at 934 square feet. Really not that ridiculous considering Jane Sanders sold off an inherited home to buy it. He now owns a one-acre lakeside log cabin, a panel-sided box house with a cracked driveway in Burlington, and a brick apartment in DC. The house is more Jane's than Bernie's, too, since I'm assuming the inherited house paid for the majority of the new house. Neat little place though.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;50867310][URL="http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/2016/08/10/check-out-bernie-sanders-rustic-new-lakefront-summer-home/#photo-770370"]This article[/URL] has some dated pictures of the place. [t]http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/wp-content/blogs.dir/2283/files/bernie-sanders-vermont-summer-home/4495643_5_1.jpg[/t] [t]http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/wp-content/blogs.dir/2283/files/bernie-sanders-vermont-summer-home/4495643_7_1.jpg[/t] [t]http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/wp-content/blogs.dir/2283/files/bernie-sanders-vermont-summer-home/4495643_10_1.jpg[/t] [t]http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/wp-content/blogs.dir/2283/files/bernie-sanders-vermont-summer-home/4495643_32_1.jpg[/t] The location is the real big expense, like mentioned above. Lakefront property on an island. The house itself is pretty quaint. It's on a single acre of land and it's basically a rustic log cabin. I can't find the square footage, but based on the pictures, it's really not that big. His house in Burlington isn't anything to look at, either, it's just a box with a cracked and weathered driveway. And his "house" in DC is 894 square feet - smaller than the average US apartment size at 934 square feet. Really not that ridiculous considering Jane Sanders sold off an inherited home to buy it. He now owns a one-acre lakeside log cabin, a panel-sided box house with a cracked driveway in Burlington, and a brick apartment in DC. The house is more Jane's than Bernie's, too, since I'm assuming the inherited house paid for the majority of the new house. Neat little place though.[/QUOTE] This can't be it...I don't see any pictures of Lenin or USSR's flag hanging on the wall.
Sanders makes close to $200k a year. (As do all members of congress) I think he can afford it. There are people living in 600k homes that live on credit cards
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50864864]So because you fundamentally don't understand bernies position, you strawmanned it into "Bernie can't spend his own money on his own things because his policy was something vaguely socialist". What a fucking joke your arguments are[/QUOTE] Thank you. I really don't see what the hell his point is. HE SAYS HE WANTS TO HELP HOMELESSNESS AND HERE HE IS BUYING A HOME :downs: He's talking like he's insinuating Bernie shouldn't have, and should have just donated 600k to the homeless
Only poor people with no homes and low paying jobs should somehow work in politics to support the poor and homeless! So you can never be part of the political system to fix those things, because that would mean that you are earning money - and you can't do that, or you're a hypocrite!
[QUOTE=Kayl;50856709]600K for a summer home isn't too much. Come on, the guy did a lot to change the political discourse in the country, I think he's earned it.[/QUOTE] The music of a failed voter right here, ladies & gents.
[QUOTE=srobins;50857500]It's amazing how effective conservative propaganda has been at convincing people that whenever someone talks about wealth inequality, they're somehow talking about software engineers making $120k or doctors making $300k, rather than the Illuminati-tier wealthy who hoard hundreds of millions of dollars overseas and use tax havens to pay next to nothing in income taxes. I sometimes wonder if the people who are so repulsed by anti-1% rhetoric have even the most faint understanding of the magnitude of wealth that the actual 1% are holding. It's like when people mention the top 1%, conservatives seem to think of that rich guy down the street who owns a few restaurants.. Like, that is so incredibly far away from the type of wealth people are actually referring to, [B]it's like the difference between a bottle rocket and a NASA shuttle.[/B][/QUOTE] A bottle rocket produces 33lb of force. According to Google, the Shuttle produces 1,100,000lb of force. The median wealth for an average American is $45,000. If the median American is the bottle rocket, then to have a greater ratio, you'd need to have 1.5 billion dollars in wealth. The difference between someone barely in the Tres Commas Club and the median America is literally the difference between a bottle rocket and the space shuttle. Sander's wealth is estimated to be about $1,000,000. This is approximately 22 bottle-rockets. *Bottle-rocket in this case means a 2L bottle pumped full of water.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;50869013]A bottle rocket produces 33lb of force. According to Google, the Shuttle produces 1,100,000lb of force. The median wealth for an average American is $45,000. If the median American is the bottle rocket, then to have a greater ratio, you'd need to have 1.5 billion dollars in wealth. The difference between someone barely in the Tres Commas Club and the median America is literally the difference between a bottle rocket and the space shuttle. Sander's wealth is estimated to be about $1,000,000. This is approximately 22 bottle-rockets. *Bottle-rocket in this case means a 2L bottle pumped full of water.[/QUOTE] what diameter does the bottle rocket nozzle have and what atmospheric pressures is its engine bell optimised for?
Already seeing memes on Facebook about this. Bonus points for calling him a socialist commie.
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