Bioware is working on a modified Mass Effect 3 ending
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From what i've heard they wont change the ending they will just continue after the one they already have.
[QUOTE=goon165;35232515]Charging for it would likely throw the fanbase off the deep end.[/QUOTE]
Indeed; unless they make it a free download i'm gonna stick by my guns of "not funding EA anymore". Still sticking to my guns, even if it means I can't play the next full BioWare RPG.
[QUOTE=Aerkhan;35232600]Broken Steel didn't CHANGE the ending.
Normally you would [sp]die[/sp].
Broken Steel [sp]revealed you only were knocked out, thus still alive[/sp].
See? No changes, only adding more on top of it.[/QUOTE]
It also allowed you to[sp]send in the Super Mutant companion completely resistant to radiation to harmlessly enter the chamber and fix everything if your alignment was good enough that Fawkes wanted to come with you. All this, while the narrator tells you how much of a selfish and cowardly bastard you are for not endangering your own life instead of sending in your friend who don't mind helping out at all.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;35232726]Even if those theories were true it would still be idiotic, because of the wide array of choice you had even through Mass Effect 3 while the indoctrination supposedly happened in the Arrival DLC.
hell, it would still be a very bad idea period.[/QUOTE]
In the Codex it says Indoctrination can take place over a long period of time, thus when Shepard gets close to the Reapers it speeds up, especially with Harbinger's lazor making him especially weak. All this shit about the Illusive Man and Anderson representing different sides of his personality is crazy still but a MGS-style mindfuck.
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[QUOTE=Ganerumo;35232726]Even if those theories were true it would still be idiotic, because of the wide array of choice you had even through Mass Effect 3 while the indoctrination supposedly happened in the Arrival DLC.
hell, it would still be a very bad idea period.[/QUOTE]
No... the indoctrination theory posits that you're in a dream-like state because you're grappling with Harbinger's control of you right before you hit the conduit at the end of ME3. Choosing the red option relinquishes Harbinger's control of you and your Shepard reclaims himself in time for the final ending.
That's why there's that hidden scene at the end if you have enough war assets that's only available with the red option. It's simply logical in my opinion.
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[QUOTE=GemuMasuta;35232791]In the Codex it says Indoctrination can take place over a long period of time, thus when Shepard gets close to the Reapers it speeds up, especially with Harbinger's lazor making him especially weak. All this shit about the Illusive Man and Anderson representing different sides of his personality is crazy still but a MGS-style mindfuck.[/QUOTE]
That would make sense to me. The Illusive Man represents control, Anderson represents destruction. The Illusive Man plays to a renegade Shepard, while Anderson plays to a paragon Shepard.
[QUOTE]That would make sense to me. The Illusive Man represents control, Anderson represents destruction. The Illusive Man plays to a renegade Shepard, while Anderson plays to a paragon Shepard.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it does. The scene on the Citadel control room is apparently all symbolism and how TIM represents the Indoctrination, with the moment he shoots himself being Shepard's will trying to escape the Indoctrination.
To be honest, I honestly think they made a bad ending on purpose since they knew we'll give them a second chance...then sell the "real" ending as DLC since everyone will be wanting that after telling us they're "fixing" things......Thus making money.
[QUOTE=SystemGS;35232846]No... the indoctrination theory posits that you're in a dream-like state because you're grappling with Harbinger's control of you right before you hit the conduit at the end of ME3. Choosing the red option relinquishes Harbinger's control of you and your Shepard reclaims himself in time for the final ending.
That's why there's that hidden scene at the end if you have enough war assets that's only available with the red option. It's simply logical in my opinion.
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That would make sense to me. The Illusive Man represents control, Anderson represents destruction. The Illusive Man plays to a renegade Shepard, while Anderson plays to a paragon Shepard.[/QUOTE]
That would be giving way too much credit to Bioware, they are just not able to pull off such an intricate ending.
And even if it was true, that would be bullshit on a lot of levels. It's still a very badly written ending (if shepard was actually indoctrinated it should be shown CLEARLY, here it's just not talked about a single time, so chances are the players are just taking all the plot holes they can find and say it's all part of a weird intricate hidden plot), a very bad idea (twist endings are not interesting anymore, especially in that sort of case, for fucks sake), and it would still be filled with plot holes. Plus the fact it would actually make the game worse as the game is simply not finished and the ending is just not there if this is actually the ending of the game.
Well, this was unexpected.
[QUOTE=GemuMasuta;35232936]Yeah, it does. The scene on the Citadel control room is apparently all symbolism and how TIM represents the Indoctrination, with the moment he shoots himself being Shepard's will trying to escape the Indoctrination.[/QUOTE]
This is going way too far. There are fucktons of counter-arguments to the indoctrination theory and they all make more sense than the arguments for the theory.
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;35232513]Fallout 3?
On topic, I can't believe they caved in. I'm glad that they did, but I just can't believe it. They'll win back a lot of fans from this.[/QUOTE]
I don't think people were angry about Fallout 3's ending being bad so much as the fact that Fallout 3 HAD an ending. At least gameplay-wise.
[QUOTE=O'Neil;35232938]To be honest, I honestly think they made a bad ending on purpose since they knew we'll give them a second chance...then sell the "real" ending as DLC since everyone will be wanting that after telling us they're "fixing" things......Thus making money.[/QUOTE]
Hey, Activison re-packages the same product every year and nobody complains... I'd be willing to spend $10 on DLC because I simply want my Shepard to get a decent ending.
I'm just going to say this, but I kind of hope they make an MMO set in the ME universe some day, with similar ground gombat, but with space combat similar to X3, but with crewable ships, this way you could have a ship crewed by multiple players working together
[QUOTE=viperfan7;35233003]I'm just going to say this, but I kind of hope they make an MMO set in the ME universe some day, with similar ground gombat, but with space combat similar to X3, but with crewable ships, this way you could have a ship crewed by multiple players working together[/QUOTE]
TOR proved us Bioware isn't anywhere near able to hold a proper MMO though.
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This whole indoctrination theory would be all well and good if it wasn't for the fact that Bioware already disproved it and said they made the ending that we have right now on purpose (on purpose as in they truly thought these would be good endings)
[QUOTE=Simski;35232768]It also allowed you to[sp]send in the Super Mutant companion completely resistant to radiation to harmlessly enter the chamber and fix everything if your alignment was good enough that Fawkes wanted to come with you. All this, while the narrator tells you how much of a selfish and cowardly bastard you are for not endangering your own life instead of sending in your friend who don't mind helping out at all.[/sp][/QUOTE]
No it didn't, Fawkes would just say "Nope, it's [i]your[/i] destiny, so you just go die of radiation.
You could tell Sentinel Lyons to go, not that you care as Broken Steel reveals that she's basically fucked either way.
[QUOTE=Hans-Gunther 3.;35233354]No it didn't, Fawkes would just say "Nope, it's [i]your[/i] destiny, so you just go die of radiation.
You could tell Sentinel Lyons to go, not that you care as Broken Steel reveals that she's basically fucked either way.[/QUOTE]
Yes it did, I sent in Fawkes. Perhaps you weren't maxed out good or something?
It basically gave you an ending mixed between doing it yourself and sending Sentinel Lyons.
[QUOTE=Hans-Gunther 3.;35233354]No it didn't, Fawkes would just say "Nope, it's [i]your[/i] destiny, so you just go die of radiation.
You could tell Sentinel Lyons to go, not that you care as Broken Steel reveals that she's basically fucked either way.[/QUOTE]
Yes you could, I've played FO3 many times and I've sent in Charron, Fawkes, Sentinel Lyons, myself, and another follower whose name escapes me.
If they've been pouring over it, then why have they been censoring BSN?
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[QUOTE=An Armed Bear;35232975]I don't think people were angry about Fallout 3's ending being bad so much as the fact that Fallout 3 HAD an ending. At least gameplay-wise.[/QUOTE]
Fallout 3 had a recurring theme of sacrifice and the ending made sense. Sure, there were some flaws with it, but everything ended as intended and you went through with your fathers legacy.
Sacrificing reality for fictional, controlled reality. Sacrificing life to create life. Sacrificing for your loved ones, etc.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;35233126]TOR proved us Bioware isn't anywhere near able to hold a proper MMO though.[/QUOTE]
hey, maybe the mass effect team would do better, they have most of the infrastructure in place with mass effect already
If it's just going to be edited to explain more then I'm assuming they're gonna make an MMO since the endings are so similar. If this is what happens then all I have to say is fuck you Bioware and fuck everything you make from now on. But if it is a completely new ending I won't mind and hope it's a fitting end to Shepards story arc.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;35232666]I'm sorry, but
Whoever wrote this article is an idiot. How is changing a shit ending compromising their artistic integrity?[/QUOTE]
are you fucking serious
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I give mad cred to Bioware for at least trying to keep their integrity and not actually changing the ending, but showing what happened around it.
Oh, my i can't wait for the shitstorm when they announce this and say "Oh and it's 10 bucks."
And no, there's no way this would be free, judging by the all the recent dick moves ea's been doing.
why do so much people care about a fucking ending? its not like its the end of the world or anything
[QUOTE=Simski;35233380]Yes it did, I sent in Fawkes. Perhaps you weren't maxed out good or something?
It basically gave you an ending mixed between doing it yourself and sending Sentinel Lyons.[/QUOTE]
It was patched in by Bethesda, originally you couldn't send him in.
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